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Singh resigns as party leader.
The comment about Fanjoy potentially winning! Oooh roasted!
I had 3 people in front of me at my polling booth, got out in 10 minutes. I think that is the longest its taken me to vote in years. I always go first thing in the morning, lol. Hate lineups.
Longest wait I encountered was for the guy sitting by the door to look up from his phone. Registered and voted in moments, no lines.
NDP needs to drop Singh. Conservatives need to drop PP.
Seeing as they voth lost there seat pretty sure that choice has been made for them
Yup. Here’s hoping the selection process goes slow so the Cons can’t cause trouble for a bit.
Singh just announced he is stepping down as party leader.
I dont believe the hype. I think he’d have been great.
I don’t dislike Singh but I don’t think he was a good leader.
I don’t think he saw his own failures coming, but I’ve been saying for a while this would happen.
I don’t think he did a good enough job getting the message out to the working class, and that needs to be the NDP foundation. Unless it’s a worker party, what actually separates it from the greens?
I actually do like most of their platform, and the platform is bold. I Also like that he did push for dental and pharma, but as released those programs are a huge frustration to me.
I think he performed well in the debates. I wouldn’t be surprised if the NDP has trouble filling his shoes. Though they may be able to by picking someone who is more ‘demographically palatable’ to the average Canadian.
That’s a nice way to put it, but I agree. Accept the sad reality and put forward a candidate who can realistically win. Once in power you can work on reducing racism/sexism etc.
I feel you, I think the NDP needs another Jack Layton. He was lightning in a bottle.
I imagine Singh could’ve approached an adequate level of leadership and approval he had if he kept accumulating more political outreach experience rather than step down, but so it goes.
I don’t think he’ll want to continue after this tbh
Just stepped down.
It sucks but it’s the right move. The London Fanshawe riding is devastating. We were an NDP stronghold for almost 20 years
I appreciate Jason Kenney calling out maga North and The People’s Party.
What a terrible song.
What, you don’t like country-gospel with awkwardly rammed in mood board words?
Go Bruce Fanjoy! Stop that demagogue!
Demagogue in a Milhouse suit who let the internet bully him out of wearing glasses. Pathetic.
the article I read about him said that he left his job to raise his children fulltime while his wife worked. then goes on to say his children are well into their post-secodary degrees so he’s been renovating his house and talking everyone’s ear off about how great it is because of its greenness. One of the things he’d like to do as MP is help other people renovate their houses the same way he did.
Losing to Carney, a serious member of the financial class is one thing. But losing to full time parent of 2 adults, who loves eco-friendly home renos is another thing. It’s interesting that neither men has held a conventional job in 20 years. Not to mention the dynamics (esp gender) of one of them having spent the time being a homemaker and the other being a brainwrecker.
PP’s riding update as of approximately midnight EST:
Image Source: Globalnews
Alternative: National Post > Just the subframe for Carleton
This might be the most interesting thing so far, actually, with the orange-blue swing votes in second place.
Poilievre could leave this as a freshly minted lobbyist: His first normal job.
Hopefully it’s in the American regime and we never see him again. Opps…was that out loud
Hopefully we’ve passed an inflection point now, and we’re not doomed to keep following their trajectory.
Iirc he’s got a 5 yr wait before he can register as a lobbyist.
That would make sense. Hmm. A desk job at Harper & Associates I guess, then.
Update about 00:35 EST
110
/266
polls reporting28,327
votes reporting
Name Party votes Share Bruce Fanjoy LIB 14,529
51.3%
Pierre Poilievre* CON 12,817
45.2%
(source Globalnews)
Update about 01:05 EST
- 180/266 polls reporting
- 43,999 votes reporting
PP pulls up 0.5%
Name Party votes Share Bruce Fanjoy LIB 24,248
51%
Pierre Poilievre* CON 21,688
45.6%
Beth Prokaska NDP 709
1.5%
(source Globalnews)
Comment: Thy have counted 6709 votes in the past 30 minutes or so. This is the riding with 1 meter long ballots. What the fuck.
Update about 10:40 est
264/266 polls reporting
83,756 votes reporting
Bruce Fanjoy LIB 42,374 50.6%
Pierre Poilievre* CON 38,581 46.1%
Beth Prokaska NDP 1,190 1.4%
Same source as previous
Comment: that’s about 80% voter turnout
https://globalnews.ca/news/11153487/canada-election-pierre-poilievre-carleton-riding-results/
Carleton covers suburban parts of Ottawa, which is home to many workers in the federal public service that Poilievre vowed on the campaign trail to cut.
Hopefully we get a minority liberal government tonight. Mark Carney needs to taught to collaborate with others. I want him to be much more mature than Justin Trudeau ever was.
My only problem with this plan is it seems they’d need both NDP and BQ. If they only needed NDP, should be business as ususal. If they need BQ… could be hairier.
Looks like Mark Carney has a great opportunity to be molded into a great leader!
🙌
There’s also a chance the Greens could be a kingmaker here if that’s preferable to a potential bloc rugpull.
Bringing your voter information card with a driver’s license or any other Canadian Gov’t issued card with photo, name and address is like having a FastPass for voting.
Looks like everything is in and it ended up with Liberals 169 seats, three short of a majority.
Although jeez, I can’t imagine there isn’t a recount in the riding where the difference was literally 12 votes out of 21,000. Crazy close.
Either way, I’m guessing the 7 NDP and 1 Green basically become de facto Liberals to create a pseudo majority since at least that way they’ll have some influence and it wouldn’t be in their best interest to topple the government and go through all this again.
If you don’t know who to vote for, I recommend using vote compass to see how closely you align to the parties.
I’m usually disappointed by the vote compass. Lately it has been putting me between the Liberals and Cons because I am ambivalent about social issues and left leaning on economic issues. If you think it is non of the government’s business which race/gender you are, that is putting you on the right these days.
Isn’t the right trying to tell people what race and genders are valid…
Yes. I feel like polls such as Vote Compass are hampered by the fact that they take right wing policies at face value rather than what they actually do once in power.
Very much agreed
I’m usually disappointed by the vote compass. Lately it has been putting me between the Liberals and Cons because I am ambivalent about social issues and left leaning on economic issues. If you think it is non of the government’s business which race/gender you are, that is putting you on the right these days.
They’ve introduced a feature at the end where you can choose to weight your answers, so the social issues you don’t really care about can be weighted
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and get a more accurate result.Ain’t got time for that. I did a few questions and it did change the result dramatically.
I got the same result for the same reason.
I think the parties not releasing their platform until so late makes it incorrect.
It’s a good idea, but not good this election.
There’s a “weight your results” button that let’s you indicate how much you care about each question.
After this is all done, we need to rebuild the left in this country. We need the NDP to be putting forth bold policy proposals to neutralize the far right populist appeal of the fucking conservative ghouls.
That and we need electoral reform. The NDP bled hard into liberal support as people wanted to avoid electing conservatives. FPTP will never lead to an NDP government.
I’m more centrist but I also want a strong left.
I want good working class Canadians to rally back to a strong NDP and unions and see their influence grow, and I want that to start pushing our policies back towards effective social policy.
It does need to be a balance, but I don’t see how for example small businesses not having to provide health insurance to compete is bad for businesses. It’s a burden off of them and good for employees.
Private healthcare mostly helps the big entrenched companies, and that’s bad for an economy.
And to engage peoples hard, negative feelings. The conservatives keep capturing the NDP’s natural base because they refuse to actually reflect their feelings and perceptions back to them. This whole “let’s get along, and cancel your bank fees” thing doesn’t resonate.
We need European style left populism, like Mélenchon in France, or Corbyn in the UK. The mainstream media are going to call us hippie socialists no matter how “costed” and “responsible” our platform is. We need to be going for the jugular.
Very much so.
They need to replace Singh from the leadership … I have a lot of respect for him and I do appreciate him but you have to be realistic, the majority of the country is still very conservative Eurocentric minded population. The majority of the country do not identify with a politician with a turban. I have no problem with it but there are still many, many people out there that will never support someone like this. Singh also brings in the controversy and troubles of the Sikh / Indian controversies.
I hate to say it and hate to admit it but the only way that the NDP can grow is for the leadership to be replaced by someone who is white but at the very least someone who does not identify with a specific ethnic / religious group by wearing a piece of clothing to identify themselves.
The majority of the country do not identify with a politician with a turban.
The majority of the country identify with a very narrow profile, and it excludes many marginalized groups that we both know need no more exclusion. So I am super-conflicted with the reasoning being “he’s not like most Canadians” being a reason to replace him, but I see where it absolutely will/has affected his image with the more rural regions.
We had a period of turmoil during Justin’s last run that had Mr Singh appearing narrowly-focused on a particular segment of the population, and it was hard not to believe that it was to the detriment of the rest of the country. I worry he will appear to put one group before the rest, and we really need to believe all groups are on an equal footing before he can hope for support from the Rurals.
Singh wasn’t going to be able to overcome the polarization that Trump created. IN any normal election, he’s fine. But nobody wanted to chance a Polievre administration maple magaing our way through the next 3.7 years.
No, just no. Singh is as Canadian as the rest of us, period. And for any racialized Canadians reading this, that goes for you too as far as I and millions of other Canadians are concerned. We don’t need to court the votes of racists and we should never feel like we ought to appease them; they either get educated or they spend the rest of their lives voting for regressives. The leadership of our diverse country ought to be reflected in our leaders and the days of trying to middle ground with regressives ought to be put firmly behind us.
I’m Indigenous Canadian and I’m a big brown long haired native guy … you can’t get any more obviously racialized a person as me.
I’m also a lifelong NDP supporter … I’ve been part of the party since I started actively voting just over 30 years ago and I even joined in election campaigns for the party in my region over the years.
And from those experiences … we can’t fool ourselves of what the dynamics of the country still are. You are right we should think the way you describe … that is what we should aspire to … but the reality is that that kind of mentality will only occur in decades or centuries, it won’t change any time soon or within our lifetime. I would love for it change sooner rather than later but that isn’t realistic.
One of the troubling things I noticed in the NDP was in union and worker supporters … as a group most workers and unions will support a party like the NDP … but as individuals they are more than likely to vote for conservative. They support socialist ideals as workers and conservative beliefs at home.
Which is why I honestly believe that at this point in history, we need a plain old older white male to lead the party … if Jack Layton had survived, we would have probably had him as Prime Minister at this point … it’s so sad that he left us before he had a chance to do anything.
I know you weren’t saying you think like that. I’m just disagreeing with you about tactics.
we need to rebuild the left
Well, memberships are cheap and it’s easy to get involved at the riding level where you can vote for the local leadership at the AGM, help make policy at conventions, vote for the leader,… Membership has its privileges.
We also need a better NDP leader. I like Jagmeet but he has not succeeded at this.
Charlie Angus should have stayed and taken over NDP leadership.
Charlie is Canada’s version of Bernie Sanders, ie: he’d never be allowed to lead the party.
Such is the way of politiks these days.
He was a candidate to head the party at one time, but they decided on Singh instead. Now he’s too tired to try again. But I do wonder about the parallel universe where things turned out the other way around.
We also need a better NDP leader. I like Jagmeet but he has not succeeded at this.
He’s in third place in his riding and it’s looking like he’ll lose his seat.
Jusg saying, same goes for PP in his riding in Ontario. He can suck a lemon.
Maxime Bernier lost his riding as well. That’s 3 federal party leaders who lost their seats.
It’s gotta be a record.
The federal portion anyway.
The numbers for Fanjoy have been holding above 2300 for over an hour, as writing this, 219 of 266 polls.