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I had a desktop with 16GB, never really went over 10, got a new laptop, runing win 11, 32 GB of ram thought it was way overkill, out of the box its running12-20GB, its crazy.
As you start getting closer to your memory limit windows starts unloading things. 11 on first startup will use like 4+ gigs, but only really needs about 2. I honestly have no idea what it’s doing with all that extra ram.
Disk caching isn’t counted in the ram used number task manager gives you so it’s not like that’s what it’s being used for.
It’s sending personal info to Microsoft for marketing purposes
Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had 32G of RAM I could hook that up, cause apps dig a dude with memory.
Well, not all apps.
Well the kind of apps that’d let me watch two chicks at the same time do.
Good point.
I “cheaped out” with 32 and regretted it, working with huge files in RAM.
I’ve recently really gotten into 3d printing, and I’ve bought the bullet and purchased a pretty nice 3D scanner (Crealty Raptor Pro).
There’s no such thing as
too muchenough RAM for these scans.128 here and I capped it the other day doing an in-memory parsing, lol
16 here, because 🍎
How much is that in banana, for scale?
Let’s see, it would take 3 Orangutans to make a Macbook. That’s 36 bananas
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getting into 3d art is a regret lowkey, I was fine with my specs before they felt op even
I was into vr too, I was like damn this laptops a beast now im constantly struggling
I’d be wondering where the hell my other 64GB went!
Upgrade to 64GB cause 32 is not enough for my adhd
Then upgrade from 64gb to 128gb because it’s still not enough for my adhd
I’ve actually been considering using 128gb recently. I’m only considering this as I’m thinking about turning a server of mine into my primary desktop and it has 128gb in it already because I was using a RAM disk to generate large files in memory. I’m now done with that project and it feels silly having this powerful PC sitting here doing nothing.
A single vote cannot convey my interest in this idea.
Not even use 8GB of it.
Cry that one of my RAM sticks failed.
My mid-range gaming PC from 2019 had 16gb, and I was looking at some new pre-builts and saw many still only have 16. Is there just not much need for more, or what? It’s cheap - I might double what I’ve got in DDR4 for $50.
For gaming it is unlikely you will need more than 16, at least not any time soon.
Mahalo, friend.
Depends on the game and what you’re doing with it. Cities: Skylines with a bunch of mods really struggles without a load of RAM. Playing Vintage Story recently, I installed a bunch of mods. Had to uninstall about half to come in under 32GB utilization.
I have a VR headset. Going from 16GB to 64GB was a huge difference in most games
I’ve just added 64GB to the 16 that were fitted, because beam.ng would crash loading Utah with mods. This was less time consuming than finding the probably misbehaving mod or other root cause. Mainboard is from an old Thinkstation so that RDIMMs only set me back 40EUR. Nice experience.
Beam.ng drive with 79 mods can use up to 20 to 28gb RAM. Even at 30 to 40 mods it’ll pull 10 to 17gb RAM. A few programs open and a browser can eat 10 to 16gb. 16gb is the new standard. 32 should be the baseline though. 64 plus is overkill right now.
If you’re doing a new PC then I’d aim for 32GB.
16GB is enough, yes, but for how much longer? It’s been the norm for awhile now, which means that soon it won’t be enough.
I would say, that 16gb is barely enough, if you planning gaming. UE5 games can easily fill up that, so if you wanna have game recording or browser in background, then above 16 is mandatory. Maybe at least 24gb.
sort of what I was thinking. I only hit the limit when I have way too many tabs open while playing an intensive game, but it’s a cheap upgrade that might keep me in this PC for a few more years.
16GB is perfectly enough currently and I expect it to stay so for the next 5+ years.
False.
16gb is maybe enough for a phone these days.
32gb is the bare minimum baseline, and if you want to game AND use a browser you should be seriously moving to 64gb
And if you’re a power user of ANY kind, go straight to 128.
The only people who need 128 or more do not need to ask.
So, if you only browse the web with a few other programs, and you have less than 20 tabs in a browser, 32gb.
If you go over 20 tabs and want to game at the same time, just go to 64gb.
Not really. 16 gigs is like the base amount of VRAM on the new 5xxx series nvidia GPU’s, and you probably want more RAM than VRAM in your rig…
Cool, danke.
I would say 16 GB is the bare minimum. Oblivion for example needs about 10 GB, If you have discord, your Browser, and 1-2 other programs running in the background simultaneously, you will easily reach your limit.
And that’s probably still relying HEAVILY on a pagefile.
With 16 GB ram I can perfectly virtualize W11 giving 8 GB ram to the guest (on a Linux host), so yes, for normal use 16 GB is perfectly fine.
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I have 32gb and I always suggest others to get that much as a baseline theses days. I rarely ever use anywhere close to the full 32gb, but I am often times at or near 16gb in use. The main benefit of having 32gb is in my case I’ll basically never be hitting the pagefile, but if you only had 16gb you’ll probably rarely max out on ram usage, but you’ll probably be hitting the pagefile more often.
With the proliferation of fast SSDs and NVME drives hitting the pagefile is considerably less impactful than it use to be with spinning disks, but it’s still slower than RAM.
Is this a problem in Chrome? I use Firefox with just 16gb and have no problem with a couple dozen tabs.
Firefox suspends tabs to disk
I have firefox and like 3 windows each with 1000+ tabs.
really? 1k tabs? genuinely curious as I’m a 0-tabber… whatre your browsing habits ? do you have them organized? you have to have some kinda tab organizer yeah? can i see a screenshot?
Why?
Could you not just bookmark them
Game dev tutorials I’m only going to watch once.
You can, but there isn’t much of a difference in performance.
If they “hide” in a bookmark they might as well no longer exist. Of course with 4 windows and hundreds of tabs each, I end up with dupes and sometimes spend hours just culling the ones no longer needed and make no really noticeable progress. I really need to set aside a weekend and do just that, but life demands my attention. 😩
Edit - I also have 32GB of RAM running as 64GB zram and still sometimes get stuff closing because OOM when I do things like run updates while compiling a new kernel.
When it comes time to dedupe, I’ll bookmark all open tabs (you can do this per window using ctrl+shift+d), open the bookmark manager and pull them from the per window folders into a single folder, then run an addon to dedupe my favorites. Much faster than trying to do anything like that by hand.
Once that’s done you can select all favorites in that folder and open them all up in a new window, but at that point I already have the bookmark manager open so I usually go through them from that.
It’s an exaggeration. Browsers use a lot more RAM than one would expect, but there’s not that much of a difference between each one.
proof that money is evil
???
Buy 32 more and lollygag on actually installing it, if my recent actions have proven anything.
can’t be turnin off the computer all willynillly now so that checks out 👍
Run our of RAM, apparently.
A few containers, a bunch of IDE windows with large work spqces and a dozen or two browser tabs add up. At least I can follow my “workflow” of doing three things at more or less the same as time
I just got some parts in the mail today so I can run four tabs!
:O Good God man what will you do with all those tabs!
Open Lemmy in 3 of them and have YouTube play a 10 hour cat video on the 4th as God intended of course!
I have 32gb of ram.
I literally only upgraded so I could install more mods in minecraft and cities skylines 1.
I went with 64GB on my most recent build… partially because it will eventually be retired to be a server, partially because last time i did a new build with brand new RAM, RAM prices skyrocketed (tsunami hit Taiwan IIRC, but still) immediately afterwards
