Some dude should’ve walked up to the podium and told her to sit down.
‘about to embark on a reading of [her] 12-book epic entitled “My Favourite Bathtime Gurgles” when [her] own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save life and creation, lept straight up through [her] neck and throttled [her] brain.’
If anybody wants a reason religion needs to die look no further than subjugation of half our population for religion to exist.
Thank goodness religion is fake bullshit.
If God wasn’t real, corrupt leaders would invent him.
wish I could spit in the face of every fucking idiot who feels the urge to spread Christianity in any way. keep that idiotic bullshit tf from my life, you’re all clowns and actors
https://lemm.ee/c/open_christian
knock yourself out
that comm seems to be quite progressive, and very intent to interpret Christianity in a good and helpful way. bit weird to target them tbh.
OP needed change of heart, maybe they’ll induce one.
It’s counterproductive, even for the ones that once thought it was a way to improve society. They are just being used, and should reconsider if they are doing more harm than good.
They are just being used, and should reconsider
Reconsider?! Whoa there. That’s too much like thinkin’ which is the devil’s work.
What would be more awesome? Walking on water? Or flying thru a lake at ludicrous speeds on a jet? Or same but on a jetpack? Or same but at 30,000feet on a Boeing flying machine?
Also imagine a Boeing plane sitting on 30,000 feet? Why!!!
Feel free to spit in my face then.
I’d argue that what these people are spreading is about as close to Christianity as Trump’s sharpie hurricane map is to an actual hurricane though; damaging and ignorant by misleading people.
As an example, they say God orders women to submit to their husbands. They get that from a letter Paul of Tarsus wrote to a group of early Christians in response to the way a particular group of (uneducated, likely trophy) wives were behaving that wasn’t in line with Jesus’ teachings to put others before themselves, because they misunderstood the bit about Jesus being an ultimate sacrifice that freed people from Jewish law to mean that you could behave however you wanted, and all would be forgiven. Paul told them that’s not how things work, and to ask their (likely educated in Jewish law) husbands to explain it to them at home instead of disrupting public meetings by preaching junk like this.
Unfortunately, a lot if what the public sees of Christianity in the US is remixes of exactly the same things the Bible these people own directly instructs against.
Jesus was a socialist pacifist. These people attempt to re-make him in their own image, taking instructions from his immediate followers out of context to justify their behavior, totally ignoring actual direct commands like “love your enemies and do good to those who hate you.”
I don’t disagree with you that these people are taking a message that seems inconsistent with the biblical portrayal of Jesus. But the above comment was criticising people “who feel the urge to spread Christianity in any way”. Which, yeah. Fuck them. If someone wants to do their research and convert to Christianity because they like it, more power to them.
But introducing children to that nonsense (by which I mean belief in resurrections and other obviously ridiculous bullshit, even if it’s not directly used to cause tangible harm) as though it’s fact at a vulnerable young age should be considered child abuse. And preying on vulnerable lonely or depressed people and using highly manipulative tactics like love bombing the way many evangelical branches of Christianity do, as do Mormons and I believe Jehovah’s Witnesses, should also be considered abusive behaviour.
open up for me 🛐
No true Scotsman. All religion is evil by nature of faith over evidence and magical thinking.
No true Scotsman
And above you is someone saying any Christian is responsible for the actions of everyone who claims to be a Christian. So what is a Christian to do?
They’re not allowed to reject someone and the things they are saying because “No True Scotsman”, but they are also held responsible for the things this other person does because they have not expelled them somehow, which is something they aren’t allowed to do.
If you’re going to say “No True Scotsman” then you can’t also claim every “Scotsman” is responsible for the actions of every other “Scotsman”.
You won’t like the answer. If you don’t want to be lumped in with other magical thinkers, then don’t be a magical thinker, else you’re in the same boat and should be evaluated the same. All flavors are the same and all are destructive, just with differing exact details. It is possible to be a scientific thinker and be evil, but this can be changed with evidence on the whole, but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil, and those aspects cannot be changed as they are core to a faulty methodology of thinking which is pervasive, insidious, and pseudo-randomly aligned with changing educational theory. If you think it’s possible to only align magical thinking with benevolent acts, you’re wrong.
So you’re “No True Scotsman” was not in regards to “Christian” but in regards to “Religious”? I don’t think OP was claiming these people aren’t religious, OP was claiming that OP’s beliefs and these people believes do not overlap.
Do you seriously think “Christian”, “Buddhist” and “Hindu” are all the same?
but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil
Over 75% of people in the world in religious in some way or another: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion
By your logic the world is overrun by evil people.
As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior, because your group doesn’t do anything to remove that element from the group.
So now that distorted sharpie-version of Christianity IS the actual and real Christianity, even if you don’t like it. You can either accept that being a christian is very similar to being a garbage nazi, or you can start to kick them out.
But they’re yours, and you’re theirs
Yup; upvoted, and doing exactly this.
But that same argument can be applied at all levels. These people are also Americans and humans, with a distorted sharpie-version of both identities.
We all need to own our shared identity with these people while rejecting the false narratives they stand behind.
“Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority. So of course there’s a HUGE difference, and I’m not sure your point is anything but whataboutism
How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians? They’re overlapping groups that as a whole are behaving pretty badly right now. You could apply the same logic here to police officers or many other groups (manyotherism?)
You may have a point with humanity as a whole, as there’s only one way to exit that group and it’s not going to be an effective solution to the world’s current problems.
It’s not “whataboutisn” when someone says “I own that and I’m doing what I can to fix things. This needs to be applied to other groups as well” though. That’s a “yes, and” not a “not this but that” argument.
In this context, the other groups are brought up solely to illustrate the issues, and not to condone the bad behavior festering inside the larger group that self-identifies as Christian.
How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians?
Uh, what?
Imma be honest, I don’t know what they said either, but in part it’s because your comment that they’re replying to didn’t make sense.
“Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority.
This doesn’t scan at all.
As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior
Out of curiosity, have you ever used the phrase “No True Scotsman” when people try to claim someone isn’t really a Christian?
Someone remind MTG of that when she goes off
God has an order
For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
Put your hat on, Paula. I’m definitely seeing uncovered hair there, and we know how God is about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8wb40_U1ZU
Preaching to the innocent masses with that sinful outfit.
I’ve only seen sniveling cowards in the trump administration, no men.
Ok, then suck it honey.
It is hard to read that kind of statement without thinking about a wide variety of toys and things to do with them.
Paula White needs to STFU and get back in the kitchen.
She look like she was made from a McRib
Fundie heretic scum.
“I’m up here working on the initiatives for President [Trump], who’s been in ministry for 40 years and understands it,” she insisted.
WTF? Show ANY evidence at all of 40 years of HitlerPig’s “ministry,” specifically anything BEFORE he decided to run for president.
How the everloving fuck does she know what God wants?
usually when something happens god always sends in the angels to deal with his wrath and to signal the end times with 7 angels and trumpets. they should watch evangelion.
It’s from a passage in the Bible.
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
My mom used to force us to go to church all the time, but she finally stopped when the pastor did a sermon on that one.
Jesus christ.
And then there’s Proverbs 5:19…
Even the ancient Levant had its furries!
I think that comparing breasts to deer was probably something of a poetic convention then. I believe that there’s something in Solomon along the same lines.
goes to investigate
Yeah.
Your breasts are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.Your breasts are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle.
Where’s my dinner, woman!
– Jesus
That was written by a human, not God.
Ah, yes, but a divinely-inspired human, no doubt, acting on God’s will to relay His message.
https://biblehub.com/topical/t/the_power_of_divine_inspiration.htm
Divine inspiration is a foundational concept in Christian theology, referring to the process by which God imparts His wisdom and guidance to humanity. This inspiration is most notably associated with the authorship of the Bible, where human writers were moved by the Holy Spirit to convey God’s truth. The power of divine inspiration is evident in the transformative impact of Scripture, its enduring relevance, and its ability to guide believers in faith and practice.
Like I said, written by a human. The rest, like the entire Bible, or even religion itself, is also a human construct.
Written by a schizophrenic human
Maybe, but a lot was written by neolithic goatherders telling stories to pass the time, in an age before Netflix. One guy had a good aptitude for making up good stories, and they got passed down.
I hear you….
“President Trump spoke to me in a dream. He looked exactly like God.” /s
Shared this with the wife. Her response:
Fuck you, no. You get what you give.
Sums it up pretty nicely.
Tell her that that great moral authority, the Trump administration, says otherwise.
“White House Faith Office”, that sounds like someone is pushing the “Faith” branch of their current Frostpunk playthrough a bit too far. Next up are the “Faith keepers”. Ugh.
Sec. 2. Establishing a Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias. (a) There is hereby established within the Department of Justice the Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias (Task Force).
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/
Shit’s fucked.
