A number of party leaders are frustrated that Hogg, who has a leadership position in the party, is pushing primaries against some incumbents in deep-blue seats.

Democratic party leaders Thursday morning admonished officers to not take sides in primaries, addressing a situation involving activist and Democratic National Committee vice chair David Hogg.

“Let me be unequivocal. No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger,” DNC Chair Ken Martin said in a press call. “Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership. Our role is to serve as stewards of a fair, open and trusted process, not to tilt the scales.”’

As of now, however, the DNC does not have the power to remove Hogg if he refuses to stand down on funding primary challenges through a separate PAC — unless the body changes its rules, a senior DNC official told NBC News.

“Under the present bylaws, there is no action that can be taken against David Hogg without changing to the bylaws to extend that policy of neutrality to all primaries," DNC Finance Chair Chris Korge told NBC News. "There is no codified, legal way to remove an officer for doing what David Hogg has done because it only extends to the presidential race. "

Korge said that, as of now, the situation is to be addressed at a future meeting, likely in August.

Korge said he believed it was imperative for the body to formally change its bylaws because the party division the Hogg situation has caused harkens to an old ghost Democrats don’t want to revisit.

“It smells like 2016, when progressives said the DNC had it in the bag for Hillary Clinton," Korge said, referencing angst in the party that the DNC had its thumb on the scale to block Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., from the presidential nomination. “No party official, no officer of the DNC, should do anything that would result in the division that was created by the perception that existed back in 2016.”

On Thursday, Martin went on to say he had spoken to Hogg about what he perceived as a conflict but he did not expound on whether he gave him an ultimatum.

“I understand what he’s trying to do,” Martin continued in the press call. “As I’ve said to him, ‘If you want to challenge incumbents, you’re more than free to do that. But just not as an officer of the DNC, because our job is to be a neutral arbiter. We can’t be both the referee and also the player at the same time. You have to make a decision.’”

In pushing back on Thursday, Hogg cited Trump’s power clashes with institutions in saying the party needed to take more aggressive actions. He added that he had not violated any DNC bylaws.

“They’re trying to change the rules because I’m not currently breaking them. As we’re seeing law firms, tech companies, and so many others bowing to Trump, we all must use whatever position of power we have to fight back. And that’s exactly what I’m doing,” Hogg said in a statement.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    82 months ago

    How bout actually winning people over on issues instead of forcing people to have no other option? Are these circumstances not dire enough to warrant appealing directly to the people to determine their preferred candidate and not keep losing elections to absolute clowns?

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      3
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Their mailing address:

      DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE 430 South Capitol Street Southeast Washington, DC 20003

      What I’m sending:

      “Please find enclosed a printed copy of an email sent to me by Leaders We Deserve in which they thank me for my donation to them. Here you can see that I am willing to donate to causes that credibly represent me. Pay special attention to the absence of a donation in this envelope, as it was not an oversight on my part.”

      If you do something similar, black out the “to” line on the email if you don’t want all the spam.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        22 months ago

        I should have pointed out the mail as well, so thank you.

        I more meant direct contact to individuals such as Ken Martin.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          22 months ago

          I more meant direct contact to individuals such as Ken Martin.

          For that, you need to be someone that democrats actually listen to. How’s your netanyahu impression?

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            22 months ago

            Terrible, I unfortunately don’t do a great impersonation of being all about the genocide.

            That said, if there were any direct contact information, while I would expect individuals to be ignored, a large amount of direct response would be visible. I’ve already used the contact form, and have my letter written to go out today (not as concise as yours, so I may tweak it).

            Just trying to find every avenue possible.

  • Raltoid
    link
    fedilink
    English
    18
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Summarized translation from political speak:

    Stop interfering with out interference!

  • Doug Holland
    link
    fedilink
    English
    482 months ago

    Rebuke away, ya dumb fuck Dems. What the young Mr Hogg is attempting — funding primary challengers to the most empty-suit Democrats — might be futile, might not, but you gotta respect the effort.

    “Wake up, wake up,” he shouts at the corpse of the Democratic Party, which will probably wake up only long enough to smack him away, and then go back to sleep.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    152 months ago

    ‘Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary’ - Karl Marx

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      22 months ago

      Sanders? Now that biden’s not running anymore, age is disqualifying again.

      AOC? Women suddenly can’t win now that Clinton and Harris are no longer running.

      Hogg? Welp, guess we suddenly like Marx and hate gun control. Until he’s no longer a problem.

  • LupusBlackfur
    link
    fedilink
    792 months ago

    Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership.

    Tell that to Sanders, Clinton, and Harris… That’s just recent memory…

    🙄 🤡 🤦‍♀️

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      322 months ago

      They straight up told us who the nominee would be against Trump. What a fucking joke. "Democracy is in peril so we have to suspend democracy.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        82 months ago

        In this past election, it’s kind of a non-issue. Both parties have always had it in their rules that if the nominee drops out after the primaries, the party can select a new nominee without holding another primary. And to be honest, it’s an understandable rule, at least within the scope of an overall shitty system. People generally aren’t going to show out for primaries, then watch a nominee drop out, then show out for yet another round of primaries, and then show out for a general election. It’s hard enough just to get people to vote once.

        Prior to 2024 though, the DNC and DCCC putting their fingers on the scale to fuck Sanders and elevate Clinton is unforgivable.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    282 months ago

    “Let me be unequivocal. No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger,” DNC Chair Ken Martin said in a press call.

    This is a position the DNC has acted contrary to for decades, and only decided they conveniently held when someone wanted to primary centrists. Ken Martin is not a departure from the centrist wing of the party’s decades of self-serving bad faith; he is a continuation and possibly an acceleration of it.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    262 months ago

    Thus marking the greatest opposition democrats have mustered against anything this year.

      • Maeve
        link
        fedilink
        392 months ago

        Oh c’mon! Insider trading, setting up offshore accounts and shell companies is work!

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        6
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        the old guard DEMs works with the old guard gop behind the scenes to get deals through, which arnt immediately clear to public. most europeans can see right through the performative politics of the 2 party system.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        242 months ago

        That’s exactly the plan. Schumer has said out loud that the plan is to just let the republicans off the leash, let them sink their own poll numbers and hope they teach the voters a lesson.

        That lesson, of course, being that you can put a Democrat in office to do nothing, or you can put a Republican in office and the democrats will still do nothing. These fossilized assholes need a solid kick in the pants. I would like to wish Schumer and his ilk a very merry get fucking lost.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          92 months ago

          the current DNC strategy is let the gop+trump do enough damage in the hopes that old guard dems eek out a win, any win will do.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    432 months ago

    Lmao and they can’t get rid of him, I fucking LOVE that.

    Sucks to suck, status-quo old-guard fucksticks.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
        link
        fedilink
        32 months ago

        Eh, there’s no shortage of clowns who’ll defend them as the lesser evil (or, God forbid, actually good at what they do) and shut down any attempt at making things better no matter how low they sink.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        42 months ago

        Yeah, like if they can’t reform to represent their voters then we’re gonna have to throw the whole party out. Not really the type of play I want to have to make in the current situation though.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          22 months ago

          What do they say? The best time to start working out was 10 years ago.

          The second best time to start is now.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            1
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            Generally inadvisable to work out while on life support. Want to at least get out of the icu first.

            Context does matter