cross-posted from: https://biglemmowski.win/post/6224801

Michael Gloss, 21, was the son of CIA Deputy Director for Digital Innovation Julianne Gallina Gloss, and Iraq war veteran Larry Gloss.

Before arriving in Russia on August 13, 2023, Gloss was travelling around Europe. On his Vkontakte page bio, he wrote: “I ran away from home (and) traveled the world. I hate fascism.”

On April 4, 2024, he was killed, likely during a Russian offensive near Bakhmut, however, his burial in the U.S. did not take place until December 2024, Important Stories reports.

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  • @[email protected]
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    1082 months ago

    I hate fascism.

    So he fought for Putin to invade Ukraine? That’s some top tier thinking there.

  • @[email protected]
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    32 months ago

    I encourage any MAGA to be outraged, and join the Russian army to exact their revenge on behalf of one of their own.

  • @[email protected]
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    332 months ago

    How does someone keep a security clearance high enough to be a CIA Deputy Director when you have a child fighting in a foreign army?

  • @[email protected]
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    2912 months ago

    eco-activist, women’s rights supporter, and anti-fascist

    fighting for Russia

    ummm, something doesn’t compute

    • @[email protected]
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      532 months ago

      Some people consider Ukraine to be a neonazi stronghold. So fighting Ukraine would be fighting against fascist nazis. That logic is prevalent with conspiracy nuts/scammers like Alex Jones.

      • @[email protected]
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        112 months ago

        The way these “theories” are thrown around these days with such an air of legitimacy is truly terrifying.

        This absolute miracle of communication at our fingertips, and it’s 99% noise, dangerous noise, vying to worm its way into whatever cracks in the human psyche it can find. At the least harmful, it’s persuading ads. And on the other end, people are flying out to go join ISIS or Ruzzia because they got algorithmed into a Facebook group or absorbed enough TikTok radiation.

        I miss when the internet “wasn’t real life.”

        • @[email protected]
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          262 months ago

          Tankies don’t have their own beliefs. They’re just mouthpieces for the Russian and Chinese government.

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      Just look at ML or Hexbear right here on Lemmy. The tankies love Putin and Xi. Horseshoe is a law not a theory.

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        22 months ago

        Horseshoe “theory” is generally used to attack progressives to promote centrism. Its a DNC tool and you’re the chump using it.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 months ago

          You’re a chump that thinks the Democrats are out to attack progressives. Maybe don’t be an uneducated dork.

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          I keep seeing this image repeated on Lemmy but I don’t buy it. It’s just an attempt for leftists to distance themselves from tankies. If you’re left but not a tankie, you are just center-left. Only tankies are far-left

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            Tankies have almost nothing in common with the far left outisde teenagers who haven’t worked out the fundemental flaws with communism yet. Beyond those teenagers most left wing folk consider tankies to be pretty right wing.

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              12 months ago

              Tankies have almost nothing in common with the far left

              This doesn’t make sense because tankies are the far left. What you’re thinking of as far left is actually center left.

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                But tankies almost universally want authoritarianism and dictatorships? those are far right positions. The left tends to want some flavour of socialist democracy. Tankies are left like China is communist.

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                  almost universally want authoritarianism and dictatorships? those are far right positions

                  These are both far right and far left positions. That’s what I’m saying.

                  The left tends to want some flavour of socialist democracy.

                  Yes, the center-left wants this. The far-left wants revolutions and purity tests, burning down the system, and leaving minorities to die and fend for themselves while they wage their “class war”.

          • @[email protected]
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            52 months ago

            Today’s tankies (appropriately to the name) are pro authoritarianism and it just “happens” that’s what far right Russia is. Even China isn’t truly a communism, but they are both authoritarian.

            • @[email protected]
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              32 months ago

              You can be both pro-authoritarian and far left. In fact, that’s kind of the definition of far left.

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                Yes pro authoritarian far left that’s basically communism.

                China is hardly a communism right now, Russia definitively isn’t a communism. So the current tankies that are worshipping Russia and China aren’t really for communism, they are only pro authoritarianism.

                They are actually more aligned with MAGA than anything, the only difference is just that they don’t have problem openly supporting Russia and China.

                Since this is world community there are people in other countries, and might be different definition what’s far left. But in US what authoritarians are labeling as far left are people who still want liberal democracy, but with social programs (what you have in EU, especially in Scandinavian countries). The “furthest left” politicians, Bernie Sanders is basically advocating for medical care for all Americans and taxes on rich. Basically so the government works for the people but against them.

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                  Yes pro authoritarian far left that’s basically communism.

                  I’d say it’s the stages before communism. When the authoritarians have to take all the power to give it to the people. The problem is that is impossible. Once the authoritians have taken all the power, they never give it up. So real communism doesn’t exist and can never exist because it always requires some type of revolution and central organization after the effects of the revolution. And that central power will never give up that power.

                  So just because they haven’t reached “true” communism doesn’t mean they are all of a sudden now on the “far-right”.

                  Today’s tankies are still considered far-left.

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              22 months ago

              They aren’t on the political spectrum at all because they don’t believe in any kind of governance.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 months ago

            yes if everyone would just embrace centrism we’d be in a better place, simply participating in war crimes and slowly grinding down and hollowing out the US populace, instead of quickly…right peregrin5?

            • @[email protected]
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              12 months ago

              Let me guess, you didn’t vote in 2024, and bitched about Democrats the entire time. How’s the Trump regime working out for you kreskin?

        • @[email protected]
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          12 months ago

          I like this version of horseshoe theory, but when you put the far left out on its on tine of the horseshoe its not a horseshoe anymore. This is why horseshoe theory is garbage.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 months ago

        Maybe if you didn’t keep your head inside your ass you’d feel a bit embarrassed of saying stupid shit online. The confidence you have to say stuff like that is truly perplexing.

      • @[email protected]
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        262 months ago

        Putin and Xi claim to oppose fascism the exact same way that Trump does while the actions of all three directly contradict their lip service. This is the biggest crock of shit I’m probably going to read on the internet today.

          • @[email protected]
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            102 months ago

            But of course! Those poor Russians just had to do a whole invasion, entirely out of self defense!

              • @[email protected]
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                22 months ago

                I’m almost positive that widespread interest in Ukraine joining NATO spiked in popularity AFTER the invasion started and wasn’t even taken seriously until then. So… Russia really created their own problem in that regard.

              • @[email protected]
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                52 months ago

                Ukraine is the country being invaded. Russia is the one invading. That is as simple as it is. You invade = you are the aggressor = you are the evil one.

              • Lit
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                NATO does not expand (invade to grab land), it is based on voluntary membership application (although it is not truly volunteer since they are being forced, antagonized to join due to russia expansionism). New members are only accepted through vote. “NATO expansion” is well known as putin/FSB propaganda meant for a certain naive audience.

                NATO borders with russia are the most peaceful with the low number of russian troops. Internally, Russia is not concerned about NATO, a defense alliance since Russia has the highest number of nukes.

                In the media, they will use NATO expansion propaganda because there are naive clowns and useful idiots who will believe in NATO expansion propaganda. Do remember russia was fine with Ukriane joining NATO, they saw they can use it as propaganda to justify russia expansionism. http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/21598.

                Ukraine public support for joining NATO was in the minority before the war, and only after invasion it became majority. Even after Ukraine said they won’t apply to NATO, russia didn’t not stop its expansion because russia expansion has nothing to do with NATO.

                In fact due to russia aggressive expansion even more countries applied to join NATO. Putin knew that russia expansion will encourage more to submit application to join NATO. Putin was warned to stop russia expansion as that just cause more to apply for NATO membership, it is open to anyone. Furthermore note that expanding russia territories just bring russia closer to NATO, increasing russia border with NATO. Clearly it is not about NATO.

                Even, without using NATO, putin will come up with a new reason like nazis, terrorists or LGBTQ or WMDs or security issues ( a country with the most nukes in the world has a security issue? only naive clowns will believe that) or restoring empire/imperialism (which he admitted in interview with carlson) or all of the above each for a different audience. Whatever it takes to get crimea and its warm water ports, and later Donbas for a land bridge and to secure Crimea water supply. Eventually going all the way to Transnistria.

                You think things are so simple as poor top nuclear powered russia who is scared of evil tiny Ukraine, for suggesting sending in membership application form to NATO. You are being naive at best. War does not work like a superhero movie.

                NATO was created to protect small countries from russia expansionism and stop russia from antagonizing its neighbours.

                Russia was even member of G8 until russia antagonized G8 members by invasion of Crimea. The only way a massive nuclear powered russia sees NATO as a “threat” is that NATO prevents russia from expansionism… from expanding russia territories.

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      1332 months ago

      From the end of the article

      But despite supporting Ukraine at the beginning of the full-scale war, he was at a military recruitment center in Moscow, alongside other foreign nationals, on September 5, 2023, Russian border data shows.

      His social media posts show a distinct change in his views — one identified by Important Stories as belonging to Gloss suggest he believed in conspiracy theories involving Ukraine, and claimed NATO was an evolution of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party.

      • @[email protected]
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        482 months ago

        Either extremely impressionable, or maybe had his account handed over after he was pulled off the street and conscripted into a ruzzian meat wave.

        Either way, tragic waste of human life, being anywhere near involvement with their military.

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        192 months ago

        NATO was an evolution of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party.

        Is that really so far off though?

        • @[email protected]
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          652 months ago

          If by evolution you mean “created to oppose” then yes. The question is what global organization will be created to fight against the evil of Trump and Putin.

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          1342 months ago

          Is that really so far off though?

          Yes you fucking cretin

          Notice that the one US president who actually has been building concentration camps and operating the Gestapo, shares with you a strong dislike of NATO.

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            112 months ago

            Not really. NATO had many ex top Nazis at the helm directly after world war 2. The line between Nazi Germany and NATO is very straight.

            One of the most notable being top Nazi Adolf Heusinger https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger

            Where the other guy went wrong is thinking that anyone opposing NATO in this case Russia suddenly becomes objectively good.

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                Who vehemetly denied being involved in that plot, was cleared by the German secret service for not being involved and was praised by Hitler for his autobiography?

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              422 months ago

              Well just because there are nazis dudes in an organization does not make it nazi itself. After the collapse of fascism, a lot of fascists kept or acquired important roles, there were nazi cunts in french administration, and i dont think it made the administration automatically nazi.

              Since NATO was not iniated by nazis, nor by Germany, and has no nazi goals, i’m not sure if we can say that the line between Nazi Germany is very straight. It exists sure, but it’s probably not straight and certainly quite thin.

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                When the top of the organisation is a Nazi it sounds pretty Nazi to me.

                Combined with the NATO genocides in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Palestine and more, it is obvious NATO is led by “Ubermenschen.”

                But hey. The truth is very inconvenient.

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                  The truth is complicated not inconvenient. Is NASA a Nazi organization? Are we not going to use rockets because it is Nazi tech?

                  What about NATO today is Nazi. What was Nazi about NATO then?

                  You’re being obtuse and intentionally a fool. Knock it off.

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              182 months ago

              I mean look nazis are bad but if we look at De-Ba’athification in Iraq things didn’t turn out so well.

              As far as I can tell is Heusinger guy was a career military officer, for the Imperial German army, the Weimer rupublic, Nazi Germany, and Post war Germany. So sure we can he should have defected from the Nazis but he wasn’t exactly a brown shirt either.

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                92 months ago

                Heusinger was a top ranking Nazi which served in the atrocities and genocide against the Soviet Union.

                Calling this a “career military officer” is extreme Nazi glorification.

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      It seems they convinced him that NATO and Ukraine are Nazis. Typical stuff from the play book. Dude just went all in on it. Pretty sad, he had his whole life ahead of him.

      • ArxCyberwolf
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        82 months ago

        Technocrit just likes to stir shit. The reactions are what he wants.

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        292 months ago

        Who’d guess the cia deputy director would raise such a gullible piece of shit

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          162 months ago

          I remember times when I rebelled against my parents and did some pretty stupid shit, but kids today are on a different level.

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            52 months ago

            Not sure about your upbringing, but I know I also didn’t really have the means to do anything truly stupid.

            Where’d this kid get the resources to go globe-trotting to a freaking war-embattled fascist state? That’s what blows my mind. Someone responsible for him was complicit in his self destruction.

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    612 months ago

    Bro didn’t like that Israel invaded Gaza, so he joined Russian army in their invasion of Ukraine to make it right 🤷‍♂️

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      72 months ago

      Thats a true American freedom story if I’ve ever heard one. Lets get this kid a monument in the deep south.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 months ago

      Have y’all tried tater tots? My gf introduced me to them and I swear she makes the best ones!

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    342 months ago

    I hate fascism so I join the Russian army

    I hate having to watch mental gymnastics like that right before going to sleep. How dumb is you