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ohno he really uttered the word “trolling” thats it its over humanity is done :cry:
It’s just something to grab the headlines and make people focus on something other than Hegseth and China.
No, it’s not. It’s a 1930’s that focused on a bloc of the United States, Canada, and Greenland.
Fuck no this is a technocrat idea?!
Hahahaha. Those fucking idiots had ideas so bad they’re going to destroy the USA a hundred years later. Amazing
That seems like a beauty way to go.
MAGA: “Haha, he really triggered the libtards!!!”
Yep. It’s no longer about which candidate you like the most. It’s about which candidate will make the people you hate the most furious.
I like to idly game this out because it truly reflects how narcissistic and uninformed he is. So, he’s talking about admitting Canada as a single state. Lets assume somehow that happens, even though the Canadians themselves would undoubtedly push for as many states as possible if joining the US were the only option.
You’ve now got a new largest state by both population and area, and one that has ridiculous reserves of resources and a coast-to-coast infrastructure. It instantly becomes the most important state. It’s also full of millions of people who didn’t want to be Americans and who’ve had a hundred years of more progressive governance than the US. Congratulations, Republicans, you’ve just skewed the Senate and completely fucked yourself in the House for a generation or more. You’ve also got 8 or 9 million Francophones who weren’t even entirely sure they wanted to be CANADIANS, much less Americans, to say nothing of being Americans in a MAGA world. This is how real troubles begin.
So, in return for dubious “improvements” to the trade deficit, and certain (what?) administrative conveniences (I guess) for a military that already had basically all the access anyone would ever need, as well as a giant buffer territory you’re not politically committed to defending with the same gusto you would your own soil, you completely upset the balance of power in Congress to your own party’s detriment and add a huge population that hates their situation. Brilliant.
Although, I guess if you’re just done with free and fair elections then a lot of these concerns evaporate…
Doesn’t matter. He wants Canada because it is big on the map and if America had it then America would look bigger on the map and if it was at its biggest when Trump was president that would mean Trump was the best US president ever in every history book for all time. Same thing with Greenland.
I do unironically believe the Mercator projection has influenced how much he talks about Greenland.
You’re not wrong. It looks so much bigger than the 2.1m sq km that it is. In fact, it’s 100k smaller than the Democratic Republic of the Congo. When you look at a Mercator map, Greenland looks comparable to the entire continent of Africa.
In school I remember them teaching us that it had a psychological effect that we think Northern countries are more important than Southern ones because they’re bigger and on top and I am totally 100% on board with that line of thought
I have the incredible, uncontrollable urge to shout, “Gulf of Mexico!” suddenly.
It’s actually useful to note that Canada+USA together (19.8 sq km) is bigger than Russia (17m sq km) by about an India (3m sq km), but still short of the former USSR (22m sq km). But add in Greenland (2.3)? Now you’ve got the biggest country that ever existed.
You’re right, making an America that is the largest country on earth is precisely what his ego is after.
We’d be joined through the Puerto Rico route, as a territory. No representation. The 51 state is just a ruse to get the 17th territory, or whatever the number is.
Yeah, I guess just assuming ill intent and fascism makes it a simpler discussion that’s still perfectly reasonable.
I’m so fucking tired of Americans saying shit like “omg Canada as the 51st state would totally skew our elections Democrat, get owned Trump!”
The reality is, in any scenario where Canada gets annexed by the US, American democracy will not exist anymore by then. Even if there are fake elections, we’d most likely not be allowed to vote (à la Puerto Rico, as you point out).
I do appreciate someone pointing out how utterly enraged us Francophones would be if subjected to US rule.
This is how real troubles begin.
Echos of Ireland.
I guess it’s time for a preemptive strike Canada, don’t wait until it’s too late.
And we aren’t trolling when we say you’ll sign your own death warrant, as a nation, and as a person.
the richest nation on earth with a military budget larger than the domestic budget of dozens of countries combined, couldnt stomach a fight against dirt poor cavemen, armed with cold war and WW2 relics, on the other side of the world, who were so culturally alien to them, they might as well have been from mars. And you’re going to pick a fight with people who all they have to do is wear a Bruins hat and they pass for an American?
Ask the Russians how the occupation of their Ukrainian cousins territory has worked out. If you could speak to the dead that is. Those who are still alive, live looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want the job of securing logistics in the northern woods with a bunch of angry Canucks running around.
We wouldn’t even have to fight that hard, just deny resources. February would whittle down the numbers quite nicely.
Who armed to the teeth
couldnt stomach a fight against dirt poor cavemen
And yet, you think you haven’t succumbed to American brainrot.
Yeah, because the Taliban are the pinnacle of a sophisticated, civilized society, worthy of worldwide emulation.
/s since it’s sadly necessary these days.
It just sounds weird to call your enemies cavemen honestly. I know they’re the fucking Taliban and stuff, but there’s something to it that is hard to explain. If we’d be talking about Sam Losco on the other hand, that’d be a different story as that guy is a literal caveman.
A lot of them were literally living in caves, so…
Also I think we can relax the PC rules a bit when we’re saying someone that thinks women are property is a caveman.
The Russian occupation is actually turning out more or less fine, the Russian government is better at finding and eliminating organized dissent than at pretty much anything else. They’ve been having some trouble against the regular army however
Weird, I seem to recall there being some very big explosions happening in Russia like all of the time.
I guess Russia is very good at rooting out organized dissent and preventing commando operations, just very bad at enforcing no smoking rules around explosives?
What makes you think those are commando infantry operations by locals rather than airstrikes from ukraine
What makes you think it makes a difference? Targets in Russia are blowing up either way.
Also some of the big booms in Russia happened far enough away from Ukraine that it’s unlikely a drone strike. I suppose they still could be, but the drone operator would need to be inside Russia to make that happen.
if they were local ops, they’d be happening more or less uniformly all over russia instead of what we’re actually seeing, which is that they’re happening near the ukrainian border and steadily moving further out as ukr drone tech improves
Shit randomly getting blown up from IEDs, Drones and Grenade attacks, people being killed on the street, none of that is fine.
Wait wait, I’ve seen this one before!
Translation: he’s probably trolling.
The problem isn’t Trump, it’s his followers. One of those followers will think it’s a good idea to invade Canada.
Speaking as a Canadian… Yes, we know.
You guys had the most trustworthy, most reliable ally ever. The faith and trust between Canada and the US was legendary.
That’s gone now. It’ll be a century or more before you can ever rebuild that trust.
And you threw it away for this drooling moron to play tinpot dictator.
Was it worth it?
For him and his administration? Yes, it was worth it. Destroying that was the entire point.
Call his bluff.
Ya’ll are about the size of, and politically left of, California. 54 of 538 electoral votes. 52 of 435 members in the House of Representatives. You’d be another California.
You’re the last thing that the GOP wants involved in US politics.
If you hate Trump, you can drive a wedge between him and the GOP simply by reminding us that you have universal healthcare, and you intend to spread it.
That implies that Canada would be given representation instead of some inferior “possession” status like Puerto Rico. Just because he says he’d make it a state doesn’t mean anything more than any other splat of his verbal diarrhea.
That depends on there still being elections
There will be elections.
Whether we use touch screens or guillotines to cast our ballots is an unanswered question. But there will be elections.
Aaaand when will these so called elections happen?
When do you want to cast your vote?
I for my part voted, but not in the US, which I am happy of.
Sure there will be elections. But what do you do when Trump gets 90% of the vote like Putin does?
There are elections and then there are “elections”.
Start putting up billboards reminding the Secret Service how many terms a president is allowed to serve.
Billboards reminding JD Vance that he can finish out up to two years of Trump’s term and remain eligible for two terms of his own.
“Remind” Trump that everyone around him is plotting against him.
Russia had term limits… until Putin just changed the constitution to remove them.
But why would you assume having some other fascist in charge will fix the problem? Trump is old and unhealthy, so there’s a good chance he’ll before the end of his term from natural causes. Sure JD Vance isn’t nearly as popular as Trump, but if elections are rigged and the media is under the control of the President (as things are in Russia), that won’t matter much.
Trump is the symptom, American proclivity towards fascism is the real problem.
MAGA is a personality cult. It will rip itself apart as soon as Trump is gone.
If Trump ever thought that Vance was a threat, he’d try to have him executed, just like he did with Pence. Convince Trump that he’s surrounded by traitors, and he’ll bring down the whole apparatus himself.
I assume certain short-term things will get better with anyone less crazy than Trump, but I agree the US is no longer reliable for anything long-term, and no other country should deal with us on the assumption that we’ll give up certain short-term advantages for a long term stability within our sphere of influence. It’s not even that the US was “good” (though I imagine the next hegemonic power could easily be worse), but across administrations, the US was generally intelligent about how to leverage its influence but retain enough goodwill to continue to do so indefinitely.
This administration is showing the world how poorly codified and vulnerable the US democracy is.
We learned that last time Trump was president that most of our country has been run on gentlemen’s agreements. It was news to a lot of us as well.
I think a huge part of the problem is that it’s run on Gentlemen’s agreements but we pretend it’s not. The UK’s “Constitution” is a hodgepodge of laws and court cases and things that probably closer to treaties than anything else. It’s a mess, but they know it’s a mess so there’s a very real sense that the gentlemen’s agreements are important and as real as anything else.
In America, we worship our Constitution like a holy text, but so many of our institutional controls depend on Judicial Review (which is not technically mentioned in the constitution), on following along with the presumed intent, and on fudging around the edges when it’s obvious the machinery of the state would grind to a halt if we had to amend it every time a novel situation arose. Yet, nevertheless, we have an entire school of thought built around the idea of shallow surface readings. The “originalists,” not to put too fine a point on it, are fucking idiots.
If you get the idea that the only important thing is the blackletter text agreed to by a gaggle of 18th century provincials, many of whom were intelligent and well-intentioned, but all of whom were elites and either slave-owners or okay with hanging out with slave owners, then you have a recipe for considering stupid shit like presidential immunity or having a speaker of the house who’s not a Congressperson and who can become president despite already serving two full terms, because it doesn’t explicitly say you can’t. It’s childish and dangerous, and their ascendancy in the judicial branch is a travesty.
Yup. I joked that we’re still on Constitutional Republic version 2.27, and not only is the next point release long overdue, but we should really have upgraded to version 3 or 4 by now.
Woah, we only just finally left the beta and are on constitution republic 1.27. The articles of confederation is more of an alpha test that was not good and tried the constitutions and while it worked, it never left the beta stage as , it just used spaghetti code that led to the civil war, which people wanted to upgrade to the first release won and started the reconstruction era, and caused the final release of 1.15. The south downgraded it back to beta after using violence to restrict people rights and remake the antebellum south under beta 15.01. We finally left after the civil rights movement forced them to put it at 1.25, with no restrictions on people rights. Though we need to not upgrade yet as someone is trying to install banana republic instead.
This country makes a lot more sense if you think of it as a Linux server run by feuding sysadmins all trying to run their own package managers
Can some of us, uh, join you though?
Honestly I’ve been worrying for years that the only way the US is going to resolve this division and hostility within their country is by breaking up, possibly largely along red state/blue state lines, and hopefully not triggering a violent (or god forbid nuclear) civil war in the process.
But I can say as a Canadian, if it does come to that, and you guys can’t take back your country (which I really think you can, once you start to accept what is happening and accept that it’s gonna hurt and you dig your heels in anyway, I don’t think there’s anyone who will be able to take you down, not even Trump and crew), then we would be absolutely happy to quickly rebuild and strengthen our relationship with most of the blue states. And however you end up wanting to arrange yourselves in the end, we’ll work with that. And if you guys genuinely wanted our help, our resources, our logistical support, even our protection (what little we can provide), if things were to start looking like actual civil war, I’m sure we’d absolutely be willing to figure out what sort of arrangement is actually going to work. We’d have to at least initially discuss it as equals and as partners though, I don’t think we’d ask you or coerce you to give up your sovereignty, any more than we’d want you to take ours. But if the intention to join Canada was a popular attitude, I expect we’d be willing to consider it, probably after some cooling-off period though to make sure it’s not just a passing fad. The progressive parts of America are the parts we’ve always loved. If you guys come knocking on our door needing a couch to crash on we’re not going to ask how long you need to stay, we’re just going to go find pillows and blankets.
❤️,seriously.
Same. I don’t honestly know how we recover as a country. Trump isn’t the cause, he’s a symptom. A tumour with a much larger cancerous problem underneath. At no point will the sane (and actual majority of us) roll over and become fascists. But at the same time, I don’t see how the third of the country that has gone full fascist suddenly regains their sanity and joins us.
The USSR’s goal was to divide us, and the Cold War never ended, it just went underground. There is a large part of me that is afraid at this point Balkanization is our future. But how we would we even get there without causing death and destruction?
But regardless of sentiments about losing faith in us (and I don’t blame those that feel that way, they are warranted) I do love you all who recognize that not all of us are the insane ones that make it on TV. We do still value our brothers/sisters/enbys to the north and are proud that we have a friendship unparalleled and the world’s longest undefended border. The world is a often a dark and scary place, but it’s friendships like these that make it worthwhile.
I appreciate you internet stranger.
i honestly think that applies to most of the world: pretty much everyone will back the blue states, because the red states are friendless right-wing nut jobs compared to pretty much the entire west… and it’s not like china would come to their “rescue” - they probably dislike them more than the rest of us even!
Most of the world*
*excludes Russia, Costa Rica, Argentina, Hungary, Israel, possibly India, probably Turkey, and any other fascist right wing countries. Sadly also excludes Alberta too.
the only way the US is going to resolve this division and hostility within their country is by breaking up
No part of the US should be left to the fascists. They need to be crushed everywhere, in the US and globally. We are not going to sell out decent people in red states to be enslaved and oppressed just to make our lives easier.
Or, as the last decent Republican put it: the union must be preserved at all costs.
And this time we finish Reconstruction.
That’s the American spirit that I, as a Canadian, want to see! It’s your country. Don’t let them take it!
You moved me to tears, and I’m not even out of bed, yet. Thank you so much for this genuine display of human compassion.
You’ve put it very well. And as someone that lives in BC, I agree wholeheartedly.
You guys are the best. I’m just south of you in the PNW and want us to always have each other’s backs.
The problem is, the US isn’t actually divided by red/blue areas. It’s divided by urban and rural/suburban. Even red states, the cities are almost all blue. You can’t just break it up like that because they’d have revolutions in the south at least.
There’s an immigration process, go ahead and apply if you want.
the simple truth is that 95% of these people are not able to immigrate, they aren’t wealthy, they aren’t skilled. No country would take them.
Immigration is a tedious process, Its a pipe dream for many. For a time I thought I would Immigrate to the UK when I was dating someone there, years later I realized I didnt have a chance in hell unless we were married. that was the only path that was available to me.
Well, if anyone wants to marry a Canadian, I’m single.
Did I just hear your inbox explode? Let me hi check your profile rq before I apply!
As a Millennial whose teen years were filled with adults pushing me to gO To cOLleGe constantly, I’m pretty pissed. I could make and fill a Bingo card of bullshit reasons people repeated ad nauseum, yet in retrospect there is one critical reason that nobody mentioned - that if you want to emigrate, other countries only want you if you’re “educated.” (Or “skilled.”)
I can’t imagine most adults I knew were even aware of the requirements for becoming a citizen in another country. I had dreams of moving to Canada at that age, so if somebody had known, it would’ve been a very convincing argument on me. For those that don’t know - the system is set up to prevent most people from going anywhere, but having a specialized degree makes you desirable internationally. It’s one of the few ways that ordinary (read: non-wealthy) people have that allows them to move to a new country.
Im curious what the immigration system was like 30-40 years ago with the commonwealth countries, you wouldnt believe the amount of people here in canada that came from the UK, NZ and Australia who seem to have been here for 30+ years. I would imagine whatever system people moved around in the commonwealth back then is good and now.
also canadian immigration is a joke, you could buy your way in for 10, 20 grand at a shitpot immigration consultant and then take a low skill job, if it was ever about having desireable skills, it stopped being that way about 10-15 years ago…
Was it worth it?
Southerners: “Yes, but we get to abuse brown people again!”
And say the “R-word” apparently
Redneck?
Canadian hard R
Sorry… 😞
No. I have zero interest in your apologies. Not you, not any American whose first instinct is to tell us how sorry they are. I’m sure you’re all wonderful people, but we’re well past the point where that matters.
I never, ever, want to hear the word “Sorry” from any of your lips while I’m living with the reality that people I love might die to American bombs and bullets. I am not obligated to assuage your fucking conscience by dignifying your apologies while you all sit around hanging your heads in worthless shame.
We do not want or need your apologies. We want your rage. Get angry. Get out in the streets. Fucking do something.
And when Trump is gone and every last fascist has been hunted down and your government is run like an actual democracy, and your voters have learned how to value and respect friendships with countries outside of your own… Then you can come to us and say sorry.
How is election security in Canada? There was fuckery in the last presidential election here, and I don’t doubt they’ll try it in Canada too.
Christopher Tidus just did two hour and a half long podcasts with a guest. He never has guests. The guest is a veteran that has teamed up with a data analyst and a computer geek. They have the data. The election was stolen. They used every single method from kicking voters off the eligible elector list, to vote switching, to ballot box stuffing. The election was a sham that shows a clear Russian Tail.
Commenting for later viewing.
Honestly? I know who Chris Titus is. Never figured he’d not be a Trump supporter. Know nothing about him really, and I guess my impression of him was completely wrong. So…uhmmmmm…cool! Thanks for sharing!
I’m about 10 minutes into the first part. And, yeah, this is really really…idfk…fuck. Thanks. I’m really glad you shared this.
Edit:
The “mildly tangential ranting” on this comment I made yesterday I think is kinda relevant to this…if only tangentially…
I refer to him as a left leaning Dennis Leary. I can understand why you’d think he was right leaning. He’s got the “middle aged white man funny rant” style of comedy down pat.
I remember his network show and stand up specials, always been a fan
This guy seems like he might know what he’s talking about but is there a version that isn’t a 3 hour video?
Like an article or something?
https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta
That’s the organization that the guy founded. You can find a fair bit there.
Thanks to Elections Canada it’s actually a lot better than the states. We also get answers sooner. There’s nothing like an American election to make Canadians thankful for Elections Canada.
Yeah, our Elections Canada is quite solid.
The influencing of support for our right-wing party endorsed by Elon Musk/Trump/Jordan Peterson via X, Facebook, and campaign financing is the real issue imo.
I wish Canada would annex the U.S. I want dat universal healthcare 😌
The compromise is adding the proper pronunciation of the letter Z to the kindergarten curriculum, and highschool gets French courses.
“I’ll be aboot time you say zed correctly!”
They’ll also need to learn to spell the word ‘that’ without using a d
I’m okay with this. I will make this sacrifice. 😔
Truly the dumbest timeline
guys I think it’s important to remember that the lot of us do not support this idiot in fact a lot of his own supporters have been turning on him in waves he’s got the lowest approval rating of anyone and before you say but you voted him in our voting system is electoral based a lot of us did not vote him in a lot of us live in blue states you know what I mean like we do not support this guy we are a country over your 370 million people so I guess I just get tired of being grouped with all the a****** idiots who actually voted this guy in
Democracy is about more than just voting, especially in the US, where the vote is so weak and pathetic. The end of segregation wasn’t decided by any vote.
A drunk and his goons just took over your bus and it’s headed right for a school, I get it, you didn’t do it! …even though everyone saw them standing on the curb with tommyguns and shitty fedoras before they boarded, but OK.
Whatever happens from this point on is entirely on you and yours, now, though. History is watching.
So what actions have you taken? “Not supporting” can be pretty fucking passive, and I for one will absolutely keep lumping you in with the other assholes until it upsets you enough to do more than whine on the Internet about it.
That’s not going to matter when the shooting starts.
Yeah sorry. If Americans invade Im not differentiating between who supported it and who didnt. You gonna die in a very unpleasant way.
The USA will need land to move our population to as climate change makes much of the USA no longer livable. His reasoning is evil in this case
Polite of you to assume they’re going to care about the slave population while they live in comfort.
The US has more than enough land to resettle their own population, the population density of most US states can take that easily.
Not with climate change making the southern portions of the USA unlivable. Most of the US will not be habitable in the next 100 years
Good - Yank fuckwhits can rot, or drown or however you choose to leave this mortal coil. Eat yourselves to death. LOL fat obese Murikkkans waddling over to “take over” Canada. Does the US army have enough medichairs??
Are you joking or are you really this foolish? The USA has 8-9x the population of Canada with a lot more military experience and a massive military. The USA would win and it would be awful.
The US couldn’t put down the Vietnamese or the people in Afghanistan despite the power of its military. Canada has a lot more resources than those two places……. US can raze Canada’s cities but you’d have the rest of Canada (which is massive) to contend with and a never ending insurgency. The US could maybe take Canada but it could never hold it.
We only lost those wars because the American population couldn’t be convinced to engage in that level of genocide. As we willingly have elected a fascist dictator Im not sure that the population cannot be brainwashed over the next ten years into accepting this.
Remember Americans were stupid enough to buy the claims theWhite House made about Iraq. If they can convince Americans that they need Canada they will take it.
Cope harder. Canadians are nice until we go fully batshit berserker mode. It’s not far from the surface. And we hate Murikkkans. So there is that.
