no way, bernie is actually based??
(Though to be honest, I don’t get Bernie hate that much - sure, he’s a bourgeoisie liberal and the perception around him being some revolutionary socialist is just outright false, but he lowkey might be the only ‘sane’ liberal out there in the US)
He is one of 100 members of congress that is responsible for running a capitalist empire
“If we the voters can kick this football, then the Dems will move left”
Find some other tree to bark up
The weird Lemmy propaganda has been very anti Bernie recently. Corey Booker folded like a lawn chair. I want memes of that genuine failure that just happened. This is lazy OP, lazy AF.
Block button exists for a reason. I’m using mine.
The “Israel has a right to defend itself” line is pure misinformation. Here’s his actual quote, in full:
“Israel, of course, had the right to defend itself against the horrific Hamas terrorist attack of October 7th, but it did not, and does not, have the right to go to war against the entire Palestinian people.”
"the ‘israel has a right to defend itself’ line is pure misinformation, he actually said ‘israel has a right to defend itself’ "
incredible stuff from the brightest minds here on Lemmy
against the horrific Hamas terrorist attack of October 7th, but it did not, and does not, have the right to go to war against the entire Palestinian people."
If you look closely, you’ll find there actually are more words that follow. Keep reading.
He did not say they “have” a right to defend themself, but “had” a right to defend themself against a specific event that occurred. He also makes clear that it is not a valid justification to go to war against all of Palestine.
What issue do you have with his statement, exactly?
Eh seems like this is just a lazy repost not something intentional or spammy. Your full quote probably straitened OP out.
You’re free to use your block button however you choose. To me this looks like a troll intentionally spreading misinformation. I have little benefit of the doubt left to give out to people posting on the internet
Interesting. I mean, I’m sure Bernie has faults but I don’t really see the point in attacking someone who created and is holding the only tent pole for, frankly, a reasonable middle of the road candidate (if we view him in comparison to the rest of the sane world).
I get giving shit to Corey Booker. People are gray. I can list a handful of things that Corey has done lately that fit this meme.
I honestly don’t even know what this meme is referring to maybe I’m out of the loop.
But I agree with you, attacking Bernie isn’t the way. Reeks of agent provocateur.My guess is it’s a fresh wave of propaganda to wedge the progressives. What’s new.
People don’t have to be perfect for us to join the cause and make it better. Don’t fall for it kids. We only get out of this if we ignore this bullshit and link arms.
Ps: and look, I get it if Bernie isn’t left enough for some of you. That’s ok to feel that way and it’s probably true for a good lot of you. But attacking him ain’t gonna solve the massive fuckstorm we are collectively going to go through. We either quit bullshit like this or die from factionalization. Like every other movement has in the past 95 years.
I think the biggest reason Bernie gets more hate from the Left is because in many ways people were radicalized by him, and then outrgrew him. He’s disappointing. He did a good job of getting many liberals to adopt more progressive views, but he will constantly fold because that’s all he can do with the strategy he takes. Electoralism doesn’t work, and those radicalized by Bernie increasingly see that and feel betrayed.
There are also those that weren’t radicalized by Bernie, and thus always saw him as a sheepdog for the Empire.
Yes, I appreciate that Bernie moved me further left than I was already. Although, if I had more political consciousness before Bernie arrived on the scene, that shift would have happened irregardless. I dropped out of politics for about a good decade (after being disillusioned with Obama’s first term) and he got me back thinking that a real progressive had a shot.
But after the last ten years, it’s quite evident that the progressive wing of the Dems are merely a pressure release valve, same that the Dems are for the Republicans. It just keeps people endlessly mired within the constraints of a system that will not move leftward no matter the consequences of not doing so.
After reading enough Marxist literature, it’s clear Marx was right, and that only a revolution ending in the dismantling of the current system and installation of a worker’s controlled one, will create any meaningful and lasting change for the working classes.
Yep, the entire system is built to give the illusion that it’s capable of change, while giving all of the reigns to Capital.
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Weird could it be because Bernie is trying to sheepdog people back into the DNC again?
Did you get tired of rabble rausing for Palestine?
How on earth am I the lazy one here? You did literally nothing, why don’t you make that shitty meme and post it if you want it so bad
You reposted someone else’s lazy propaganda. Which is intellectually lazy on your part. The rest of the Israel quote is above and that by it’s self should embarrass you if you’re genuine.
Making the meme was hardly an achievement, since you used AI
I did nothing of the sort, I stole this from elsewhere
The truth hurts too much for you eh?
The AI is what hurts, mostly.
The AI is as lazy as Bernie Sanders is about actually changing anything
Okay. Just fyi, you using AI forces me to assume you don’t care enough about whatever issue you have with the guy to put in the effort.
Sounds like a you problem
My opinion of you is definitely my problem, true. You did seem interested, based on the fact that you posted in a public place, but I suppose that was an error on my part. Good day, sir/ma’am (genderneutral).
I’m interested in making fun of politicians, maybe get someone to pressure him to not be a sheepdog. Not you or your opinions on me or AI
I was kind of hoping this would be like something with substance. But ok. If you want to change anyone’s mind Justin Timberlake isn’t the way. I don’t know why you’d work against yourself here.
I don’t owe you anything. I hate Americans and I hate politicians and Bernie Sanders is both. The link was just a part of the song where he says cry me a river, as in I don’t care that I should find some other tree to bark up
What do you mean by “is both”? I’m not just American. You’re making a lot of assumptions.
No one made a meme about you? No one is talking about you or cares about who you are or where you are from.
We’re talking about Bernie Sanders. He is both an American and a politician. Maybe work on your reading and English comprehension before you get mad about memes.
Most people rejected OP’s message. They hated him because he told the truth.
haven’t seen a single source so far for any claims, other then a justin timberlake clip disguised as a source
It wasn’t a source ore disguised as one? He said bark up another tree and that is a link to where Justin asks you to cry about it. Bernie Sanders is one of 100 members of congress who are responsible for managing capitalism.
Tankie or liberal ? Who wants to place bets ?
Anarchists don’t like politicians, sorry to break it to you. The US government is a capitalist empire and he is one of 100 people who manage the oppression.
Uhhhh republican?
Great meme
