This is all types of wrong.
“When I was a kid the computer didn’t need some filthy OS!!”
ZX81 - C64 - Amiga (that wasn’t an OS, it was just for launching stuff! /s ) gang
The hard way is sometimes the most free way and the free way is usually the easy way. No sense stopping the forces of nature.
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I grew up on Mac and only switched to Windows when I was 30. lol
I still wonder what Linux is like… It’s probably cool.
If you’ve had to mess around with EMM386 and HIMEM settings to play Wing Commander 2, you win.
Lemmy Linux bros make me avoid Linux at all costs
Letting other people make decisions for you like that is weak-willed. My interest in things is intrinsic and isn’t affected by external factors, yours should be too
Yeah that’s what self righteous Linux bros say. If you really believed that, you would be against all the Linux bros trying to convert everyone. I’m happy with my pc experience, im not interested in Jehova… I mean Linux thanks!
I don’t care one way or the other who uses Linux and who evangelizes or demonizes Linux. I just find bandwagoning and anti-bandwagoning kind of offensive on a visceral level. Think for yourself breh. Letting strangers pull levers and push buttons in your brain is gross.
I just find bandwagoning and anti-bandwagoning kind of offensive on a visceral level.
But you do it too. No matter how self righteous or “above it all” you pretend to be, because everyone does it to some level about something
Yeah I use Linux but I also hate people who shame people who use windows because it does what they need.
I mean if you need some specialized proprietary software they’re only runs on Windows that’s one thing but we all have some old laptops sitting around that you could throw Linux mint on and be that much closer to freedom
I don’t think they should be ashamed of using Windows just because it’s Windows, I think they should be ashamed for so many other reasons.
(I mostly use Windows)
I agree with this sentiment.
My guess is I’d fit u/but_my_mom_says_im_cool’s definition of a “Lemmy Linux bro”. I’m that person that responds to any post about bad behavior from Microsoft with some variation of “use Linux”.
But I won’t shame any individual for using Windows. That’s their choice.
I’m the Linux/open source/digital privacy person in my friend group. And I’m vocal enough about it that people know this, but I don’t shove it down anyone’s throat. But I will answer questions and offer suggestions when asked. And I’ve had some small successes in bringing people around in this way.
Hello dear likely reddit refugee. If you want to link to a user on the Fediverse you can use this syntax @[email protected]. On most clients this will turn into a clickable link and (at least on Mastodon) it will notify them that they were mentioned.
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Woah, that’s crazy
I’ve been using pop OS for 5 years and barely understand anything at all, we’re not all super nerds. I got it to save a bit of upfront money on a new build with the plan to buy windows when I needed it, never needed it.
I’ve been using windows since 3.11 and building my own machines since XP and I have never paid any money for windows lawl
Keeping you off Linux has been the goal all along
I’m a Linux user but some of the people on here make me want to go back to Windows.
What’s stopping you? It’s a personal choice, pretty much only you cares, you should do what you like.
I use windons for 35 hours a week and linus for like 5. but i can still pretend i’m a linux user on here and no one gives a fuck…
Yeah, people with a good message that annoy you should be ignored. That’s how logic works…
Yeah that snark you’re showing is the kind of thing that makes people ignore your message and makes people annoyed with Linux bros. You’re only playing into the stereotype.
Seems to be how the world works for sure.
Thanks for proving their point
I feel the same, I’m genuinely starting to despise Linux users because of this site. Worse than vegans.
What’s wrong with vegans?
The joke is that they can’t resist telling people they’re vegans.
Linux bros are like Rick and Morty fans. No matter how much you’re enjoying your pc experience they have to jump in to tell you that you’re wrong and everything that isn’t Linux sucks
Yep. Once I uninstalled Onedrive, turned off the news and stock numbers etc on the login screen etc, it’s ticked along just fine.
People massively overstate how bad it is.
I have had windows change my privacy settings multiple times on update.
I’m guessing you use a Microsoft account?
Nope, local account.
“But all those ads in your OS! Oh the humanity!”
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To be fair, I shouldn’t really have to do any of that, but people are absolute drama queens about it.
Cool story…bro
We see ourselves as like Morpheus from The Matrix. we’re trying to get people to take the red pill
Kind of a good analogy cause if I lived in the matrix universe i would much prefer to take the blue pill and just stay in the system. I don’t wanna live underground with the filthy survivors!
I enjoyed a lemmy moment in the thread about things the Canadian government needs to do to not be as dependent on the US and the first bullet point in a comment was switch to Linux
a lot of governments did that after the whole thing with Ed Snowden….
for one: the US puts backdoors in all sorts of software… has been doing it for years….
for two: software is a pretty big part of how governments do things.
for three: doesn’t matter until they start making their own microchips….
I started on a Mac, and now I live as a nomadic caveman, never contacting the civilized world.
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The thing with Macs is you don’t have to spend 80% of your time troubleshooting them. I love my Mac and OS X. I boot it up, log in, and don’t have to think about it. The UI is very intuitive and easy to use as well.
Run a second correlation on the incomes of these families and the tech literacy of their children and see what you find. I have a hypothesis.
I switched to Linux after my experience with Windows Millennium Edition. Many people have since referred to me as some sort of programming genius and hacker…I don’t know crap about any of that. I’ve simply followed instructions and referred to the help communities, whenever I’ve had trouble. Using the mainstream distributions (I’m guessing) has kept me from having much trouble.
I think my kids may benefit, as my wife only uses Mac, I have 2 Ubuntus and a Mint, and the kids use Chromebooks at school. We have 2 iPad and a Galaxy tab in the house. 1 kid has an Android phone and the other an iPhone. My wife and I both have flagship Android phones.
Sometimes it’s fun to watch them debate over which systems they prefer, depending on the school projects they work on.
The Picard Maneuver, inciting violence once again, I see. tips fedora
First machine was an Apple IIe, second was MS-DOS, I want to say version 6.2.
Looking at the comments, it occurs to me that we’re not a representative section of the online community.
Were literally people who went out of their way to not use a conventional/commercial tech product.
I wonder what the % of people on here is who have built a pc, used a raspberry pi or installed Linux compared to the outside world.
Considering linux, self hosting and open source gets mentioned in every community here… I’d say it’s a significant amount
I doubt there would be much difference. I was started on an old brick-style Mac before switching to PC and am now the most technical person in almost any group I enter. It’s not as if Mac devices are entirely void of programmers and other technical users.
Yeah, Apple computers are disproportionately common at tech conferences and meetups.
I’m a backend dev and the last 3 companies I’ve worked for are exclusively apple only. It feels, to me, like apple took over US tech startups. Obviously pretty poor sample size.
Yeah, we’re Apple only as well, but that’s largely because we didn’t want to deal w/ the BS of the corporate images, and they only support Windows. I could probably argue a case for Linux, but we’ve been on Apple for years, so that would be an uphill battle.
I’m pretty old an have been working in IT for almost 20 years now. Back in the day in would be more like this “hey welcome to the team, here’s your PC”. Someone would point to a desktop with Windows (XP) on it. If your company was “good” at IT you would have roaming profiles, so you could use any desktop with your own profile. If you would get a laptop (usually if you did IT consultancy that would be the case) it would be some locked down version of Windows where you would not even have admin rights.
In one of my first jobs a colleague (developer) couldn’t do his job because his pc was so slow and locked down. One day he came into the office with a CD-ROM that had Ubuntu on it. He just wiped the desktop and installed it. As a young office worker I was shocked! You can do that???
My anecdotal observation is the same. Most of my friends in Silicon Valley are using Macbooks, including some at some fairly mature companies like Google and Facebook.
I had a 5-year sysadmin career, dealing with some Microsoft stuff especially on identity/accounts/mailboxes through Active Directory and Exchange, but mainly did Linux specific stuff on headless servers, with desktop Linux at home.
When I switched to a non-technical career field I went with a MacBook for my laptop daily driver on the go, and kept desktop Linux at home for about 6 or 7 more years.
Now, basically a decade after that, I’m pretty much only driving MacOS on a laptop as my normal OS, with no desktop computer (just a docking station for my Apple laptop). It’s got a good command line, I can still script things, I can still rely on a pretty robust FOSS software repository in homebrew, and the filesystem in MacOS makes a lot more sense to me than the Windows lettered drives and reserved/specialized folders I can never remember anymore. And nothing beats the hardware (battery life, screen resolution, touchpad feel, lid hinge quality), in my experience.
It’s a balance. You want the computer to facilitate your actual work, but you also don’t want to spend too much time and effort administering your own machine. So the tradeoff is between the flexibility of doing things your way versus outsourcing a lot of the things to the maintainer defaults (whether you’re on Windows, MacOS, or a specific desktop environment in Linux), mindful of whether your own tweaks will break on some update.
So it’s not surprising to me when programmers/developers happen to be issued a MacBook at their jobs.
Well you have access to a lot of the same CLIs that Linux users get, right?
I’m not a fan, but I know a handful of professional developers who main apples.
