And their planes made with scrap parts are still flying around.
Edit: A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy, reminds me of an article i read this week.
https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/657978/reddit-ai-experiment-banned
I mean, fuck Boeing and the death still seems suspicious. But to claim that there was no police investigation is just lying. Suspect a cover-up or frame or whatever if you want, but seems like there was a pretty thorough investigation: https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/05/18/police-release-investigation-report-boeing-whistleblower-death/
there’s proof it wasn’t a suicide in the article you’ve linked there… well, it’s not the same as having the complete police report, buuut:
finger was still on the trigger when officers attempted to remove the gun from his hand. A police report states no fingerprints were recovered from the gun.
so, he wiped down the gun and bullets for fingerprints, and then shot himself?
sounds a lot like someone else shot him or put the gun in his hand and made him shoot himself (like by threatening his family)… and a shiny silver revolver is great for collecting fingerprints….
could’ve been an omitted detail… or soaked in blood?they mention his fingerprints were found all over his notebook, so that seems pretty inconsistent….
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i’ll just go smoke my Sherlock Holmes pipe now….like by threatening his family
Exactly. Boeing investors/management maybe didn’t kill anybody. They simply asked him if he loved $familyMember1 ($age, $location, $bestFriend), $familyMember2 ($age, $location…)…
i sure wouldn’t like to see anything bad happen to family[1…n]
You’ve misread the passive language here. ‘no prints were recovered’ can mean that they tried to find prints and couldn’t, or that they never even bothered to try getting prints off the gun.
It could also mean no print were recovered other than his obviously which they may have just not bothered to mention
Yeah that’s the obvious answer here, his finger was on the gun so his prints were there too…
Also, people need to understand that not everything you touch will 100% have your fingerprints.
I’ll admit, this irks me in mystery shows. Those don’t seem like something you’d reliably get.
“Sir, just as you predicted, we found the kitchen knife in the third drainage grate of the northern side of the city sewage system, wrapped loosely in five layers of cheesecloth, wadded with human waste. And, we’ve performed a DNA and fingerprint analysis on the handle. The prints perfectly match your suspect, sir!”
i didn’t, i noted that the presence of prints on the notebook implies an effort to obtain fingerprints on things. the gun description is particularly good for collecting prints, and i know all sorts of random things could explain that otherwise… i do find it curious, however
Let me get this straight. You think somebody else wiped down the fingerprints on the gun, shot him, and then stuck his finger on the trigger without thinking about creating any fingerprints? Does seem like someone half-assed the wrong step of that operation…
Somebody wiped it. Even if the victim had prior to the act, there would still be his prints. So it seem to have been wiped after the shot.
seems like it…
An unpopular opinion, but I’m not buying a conspiracy either. The guy wanted to hurt Boeing, had just finished testifying and saw the writing on the wall that Boeing was going to walk, and decided to kill himself as a last stab at bringing attention to it. Worked like a charm too.
It’s only unpopular because every time someone dies that’s even tangentially associated with some corporate fuckery the internet instantly calls it an assassination. It’s absolutely stupid, but the hive mind seems to be geared to desperately want everything to be a conspiracy. No better than the conservatives making vaccines a conspiracy.
Equating whistleblowers being killed to vaccine conspiracies shows how well people have been brainwashed into state obedience. Any narrative goes.
Evaluating everything as a conspiracy shows how well people have become incapable of critical thinking and applying cold logic and skepticism to both sides of the equation. Any narrative goes.
In this case there is no benefit of the doubt.
What do you think happened with Epstein?
He was not killed.
He did kill himself.
My suspicion is there were deliberate steps to take him off suicide watch and allow him the unsupervised time and means with which to kill himself. He knew he was fucked and his life was over forever coupled with scores of people wanting him dead, along with being raked over the coals to roll over on rich and powerful people. But apparently that’s not enough for people, they have to manufacture a murder.
But no, he was not murdered.
Idk if you actually believe this or not and it doesn’t really matter, if you expect anyone else to believe it you’re an incurable moron
And the cameras all suddenly failed and the guards were sleeping right? Putting the fed in fediverse.
CIA: “Mission Accomplished”
If only we had the refrence of past experiences to better predict how corporations act in the future.
Chiquita banana hired paramilitary death squads to secure their bananas and they were never punished.
Hell, just a few years ago the US couped Bolivia so Elon could have cheap lithium.
The bigger conspiracy nut theory is ignoring observable reality to make corpos the good guys.
Don’t put words in my mouth.
In no way shape or form do I view corporations as “good guys”. They are greedy, destructive on multiple levels, self-serving, cold, and often straight up evil.
Nobody here has observed shit except a someone died associated with a court case against a corporation. Everything here calling it a conspiracy is conjecture and made up opinion.
The hiring of paramilitary death squads and what banana republics are is a completely different and tragic issue that extends far beyond what a single “hit” on an individual is.
Don’t suck on the words if you don’t want them in your mouth lol
You picked a side
You picked a side
Yeah. They picked truth and honesty over sensationalism.
Spreading lies about corporations doesn’t help. They’re bad enough anyways; we don’t need to make up stories about them to paint them in a bad light, they’re perfectly capable of painting themselves.
The braindead people out there who fight against you understand that playing devils advocate means you are advocating for the devil.
It’s sad that the college educated are incapable of understanding this.
This is not an unpopular opinion, the people here are just unhinged. It’s the other side of the same qanon coin.
But one ceo gets killed and the polic and fbi go all in
they’re just doing their job. protecting the interests of big business and the wealthy.
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the most interesting part to me is that nowhere along the line did anyone mention just how interesting it all is. you know the real bad shit has started when the press shuts up and universities bend over and one of the richest people in the fucking world has to re-think his pricing displays because it pissed off the King.
edit to add - he put a fucking tax on british tea without congress. that’s a taxation without representation. on british fucking tea.
He wasn’t rich enough for anyone to care about.
I’d be more likely to believe that Boeing tried to kill him if he didn’t die
This did not happen.
Was there ever a credible investigation?
What’s there to investigate? It was just your normal everyday ‘outside a hotel, the day before your witness testimony to expose how a giant government backed multinational corporation is sacrificing people’s lives for profit, suicide’ It happens all the time!
He already witnessed, right? This was a couple weeks later? Anyway, that’s the sort of details that’d be important.
Actually, no! He was only two days in and had a lot more to go.
Yes.
Do you assume guilt in the absence of an investigation?
Not generally.
a lot of .world users say this was a conspiracy
Well. It is a conspiracy. A conspiracy theory, even! I have a very compelling theory that Boeing conspired to kill that guy.
Just because it’s a conspiracy (we allege that people conspired to do something bad) theory (we don’t have absolute, provable-before-a-judge-and-jury hard evidence) doesn’t mean that it’s false. Also daily reminder that the CIA purposefully adopted the term “conspiracy theory” to convince the public to dismiss allegations that they secretly did something bad by associating them with Bigfoot and aliens. At the same time as they were secretly drugging random members of the public with LSD and watching them freak out and fall out of windows.
Jeffrey Epstein. Imagine how many people whose names you haven’t heard just randomly committed suicide one day. Or had an accident. Or just disappeared.
Victoria Giuffre more recently in regards to Epstein.
she also said quite publicly that she’s not suicidal and she would never do that to her family, and if that happened she was suicided…
Yeah I know. Sadly this doesn’t get any bigger media representation.
I had thought she was in renal failure and her ex husband wouldn’t let her see her kids
This is honestly a subject I get annoyed about. The US has ‘whistleblower’ protections but it’s really not there. This isn’t a black-op opp, it’s a failure of protections/proper compensations for blowing the whistle. Imagine you’ve spent your whole life dedicated to one field of engineering. You’ve now sacrificed it to blow the whistle. It’s not fair, nor is it just, but that’s what happens.
Boeing has done so much wrong that it honestly feels negligent to focus on a perceived assassination. And it directs attention away from how whistleblowers could be protected
The risk/reward analysis goes against assassinating the man. Despite prevailing opinions on executives around here, they’re not fucking stupid, especially at the level of one who could order a hit. Even if several were involved for plausible deniability, they would all foresee the circular firing squad in the event murder came to light.
Seems like the risk paid off pretty well considering he was testifying about scrap parts in their planes and none of Boeings planes were grounded or inspected as a result.
Yup, what would the executives actually lose if they were found guilty in the court case? They’d need to find new jobs, but would give themselves fat severance packages.
Corporations suck ass, but this is nonsense.
What would they lose? Going down for conspiracy to commit murder for a start. Murder 1 as well.
I think you misunderstood. I mean the repercussions for courts finding the execs guilty of his accusations is a slap on the wrist vs charges for murder.
The risk/reward analysis goes against assassinating the man.
You’re assuming reason and logic. Money addicted billionaire CEO’s are about as rational as crackwhores who need a fix.
You can know a lot
You can know a little
But whatever you know
Just don’t blow the whistleJesse Welles might be the Guthrie of our time.
About a week before OOP’s post the openAi whistleblower also died mysteriously https://apnews.com/article/openai-whistleblower-suchir-balaji-death-283e70b31d34ebb71b62e73aafb56a7d
Well shit, that doctor who phrase about the human super power of forgetting rings even true day by day
or y’know, they didn’t
edit: yeah downvote me because you’re a conspiracy theorist lmao
honestly, you’re not being downvoted for your opinion. you’re being downvoted because you’re just being contrarian without providing anything at all to substantiate your stance. you might have well just wrote “lol” or something else just as asinine. no offense, of course
Lol what? There’s no evidence this happened. It’s up to the conspiracy theorists to provide evidence, which they never do. You cant just be like, prove that DIDNT happen!! Like hello? Has this entire comment thread lost its collective mind? Does truth and evidence mean nothing?
A guy who specifically stated he wasn’t suicidal and had no plans to end his life shot himself in the back of the head outside the comfort of his home a day or two before he was supposed to testify about Boeing putting scrap parts in their planes.
Lol ok
i really don’t think so. that’s not how downvoting works and you know that lmao. i made people mega mad because i don’t believe Boeing murdered a guy, like cut the shit. you can read his suicide note and see his handwriting and his thoughts. i didn’t think to post that??? i thought contributing skepticism was at least an acceptable comment but excuse me for breaking some weird internet etiquette.
i’m not surprised, but you’re missing my point. that said, you accidentally provided what i was talking about. don’t judge the community on your first comment - judge them on how well this one shakes out.
edit - to quote [email protected]:
i really don’t think so. that’s not how downvoting works and you know that lmao. i made people mega mad because i don’t believe Boeing murdered a guy, like cut the shit. you can read his suicide note and see his handwriting and his thoughts. i didn’t think to post that??? i thought contributing skepticism was at least an acceptable comment but excuse me for breaking some weird internet etiquette.
(btw i upvote all your comments strictly so that other people can see how much of an ass you are)
i don’t know what point you’re trying to make and i don’t care.
of course you don’t, and that’s entirely the point. now, don’t you have some gooning to do?
…what lmao. that’s your attempt at roasting me? alright.
nope, just saying goodbye.
edit: i love you sweet bae
He only needed to love his family more than he wanted to slap down an abusive corporation
Impossible to know. Conspiracies happen. So do suicides.
it’s really not. the suicide note is available to see. it’s his handwriting and genuinely reads like his own thoughts.
“It came to me in a dream”
what
The source
i don’t know wtf you’re talking about, sorry.
I don’t know that you know what you’re talking about either. No need to be sorry, you’re fine.
Yes but won’t anybody think of Shareholder Value?!!
