- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- [email protected]
You must log in or register to comment.
Good. That’s the point.
They say they’ll fight thing in court as if we trust the courts to even respect the constitution anymore. You sat behind the clown on inauguration day, now reap what you sowed.
are you sure that Microsoft was there with Amazon, Google, Fecesbook and Xhitter?
Good.
Fuck Microsoft
Oh no! Anyway…
Well if american tech were trying to provide a service and accumulate customers which they take care of then this would not be an issue. Their current method feels more like rape.
I just installed Pop!OS :)
PopOS! is built by a US company BTW.
OpenSUSE is German, Mint is Irish and so is ZorinOS.
I agree. But I think we can make an exception for some FOSS software.
When the US government demands that System76 hands over all info they have on the people who use their products, or decides to ban access to US software from countries Trump has decided in his mind are “playing unfair”, let’s see how far PopOS being FOSS takes us.
Have fun! May COSMIC evolve further and reaches the stars GNOME always aimed for.
Under Trump 2.0, some Europeans fear that storing their data in the bit barns of Microsoft, Google and AWS is no longer safe
It never was, and all the laws that were installed to make this appear legal were nothing but meaningless fig leaves.
It’s like people still don’t know about Schrems II or the Cloud Act.
Or they somehow seriously think that the EU-US Data Privacy Framework resolves the issues that killed the EU–US Privacy Shield?
Techies in Europe – who obviously have a vested interest in unsettling Microsoft stronghold on the market as AWS, Microsoft, and Google have upwards of a 70 percent share of the public cloud sector in the region – previously highlighted the potential dangers of US legislation.
I’ve mentioned this before as a criticism for Canadian boycotts of the US. Every large Canadian website, even Government and News use US cloud services. Every. One.
Frank Karlitschek, CEO of Nextcloud, told us in March, “The Cloud Act grants US authorities access to cloud data hosted by US companies. It does not matter if that data is located in the US, Europe, or anywhere else.”
How was this allowed to happen? The minute that law was passed all sites that use them should have discontinued their contracts. JFC.
I think a company in Europe doesn’t give a shit that the US government can peek at their data. Their users might care but they certainly don’t.
What’s new is that they no longer trust the stability of the services long term. What if trump slaps a tariff, or asks Amazon to shut down access, or whatever bullshit passes through his head daily? You wouldn’t store your business on Russian servers, and they’re starting to realize the same applies to the US.
They have to give s shit, because they are ultimately responsible for the handling (and abuse, if it comes to that) of the data, and as European companies they are in easy reach of the European law.
Nah, as long as the actual servers are hosted in Europe, you’re compliant with GDPR and European law. The European company is not liable if the US government violates the EU-US framework.
European data on European servers is fine, as long as American agencies can’t just access data on those (which one cannot rule out with American companies).
There is no requirement for the company to think about that. The majority of GDPR-compliant companies still store on AWS/GCP, just on EU servers.
The Processor is not, but the Controller is still required to guarantee appropriate security for personal data. Appropriate means running a risk assessment and deciding accordingly.
The problem is when in the EU we take as security responsible for healthcare people who handled IAM for Jira tops.
Appropriate means running a risk assessment and deciding accordingly
The risk assessment doesn’t require the company to assess the reliability of international diplomatic relationships. Having your data on EU soil (even under the care of a US company) is enough for compliance.
I assure you that is not true. Even in my “mild” domain of marketing analytics, vendors exist that are EU companies with EU storage also run by EU companies or they offer on-premise deployment. And serious companies with users that may signal personal details through behavioral data seek such solutions.
Vendors do exist but they are not required to do so. My last job was at a software vendor, GDPR compliant, ISO & SOC 2 certified, controlling personal data (including salary information) of EU citizens who were not opted in (their employer is the one on the contract). Not healthcare levels of sensitive but still pretty icky in terms of EU law and we had tons of German friends who are real sticklers for the rules. We stored everything on AWS infrastructure and it has never caused any issue during certification or security assessment by clients.
Europe broke their own procurement laws in order to choose Microsoft for the cloud, its good that tariffs were enough for them to finally follow their own laws.
Why would they be nervous without any serious competition for 365?
I’m sure their EU lobbyists can fix that.
These politicians may not like the US anymore, but everyone likes money.Microsoft promising to build infrastructure in the EU directly hurts American jobs. :-D lol Trumps Tarrifs that scared the world have responded by defending themselves, US companies boosting their economies by building there and then the US jobs will be needed less as the work they’re doing now witll be in the EU.
Trumps Tarrifs have directly boosted the economies of others while directly hurting ours and it has absolutely nothing to do with the tangible goods that Trump cares about.
Someone should tell Trump that Microsoft is out sourcing cloud business which is worth BILLIONS.
Just checked it’s worth almost $800 BILLION.
Amazon too, tell him Jeff Bezos is the biggest cloud seller on earth. Elon would jump at the chance to deal with his, uh, rival?
Trump probably thinks that’s woke libs creating clouds in the sky to fight climate change.
Thinking that needing to build infrastructure that other countries provided is an economic boost is exactly the line of thought that the Magats use to justify Tariffs. It’s not true. The resources spent building server rooms and datacenters would be better used elsewhere.
Im sorry, this is stupud! Customers are saying, “this service is unsafe, i dont trust my data isnt being used against me!” And their response is, “Dont worry, we habe a 5 point plan to make shure we have the uptime of a waffle-house! Our product will be so easy to access and it will stay that way forever!”
Sucks that EU privacy protections only apply to corporations, and the governments are going for full government backdoors in everything possible.
anyone remember the time the city of Munich was fully running on “Limux” until the bavarian greed kicked in and they switched back to Microsoft for 8000 jobs Bill promised them? I am sure the greed will kick in again. People are shit.
I remember. I think I was still on Slashdot back then – that’s how long ago it was.
How was switching to MS supposed to create jobs? Genuine question.
The CSU is full or such genius’
Microsoft built their HQ in Munich as part of the “deal” as far as I remember. Something along those lines. The secret ingredient is corruption.
