• @[email protected]
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    2082 months ago

    Probably a good thing, the US sucked at it anyway. Ukraine was going to be forced to concede so much… Art of the Deal strikes again.

    • @[email protected]
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      812 months ago

      Nah, Trump got what he wanted, the minerals deal. Now he can keep sanctions on China for longer while we strip mine Ukraine for rare earth minerals.

      • @[email protected]
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        272 months ago

        Bro the US isn’t going to mine shit in an active war zone. The mineral deal might be beneficial if peace is reached but not before that.

        • Cethin
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          42 months ago

          If peace is reached and maintained. If Russia doesn’t get all of Ukraine, how long is it going to be until they invade again? No one is going to want to invest in building a mine with that hanging over it.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 months ago

          Doesn’t really matter. Trump got a deal. In Donnie’s diseased mind, it doesn’t matter what it says, only that it exists.

          • @[email protected]
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            72 months ago

            It all makes sense when you realize he’s a trust-fund idiot cosplaying as a businessman.

      • @[email protected]
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        842 months ago

        Lol, we aren’t going to be mining anything. Rare earth minerals aren’t rare because they’re only located in isolated places, they’re rare because they are only present in small amounts when mining other materials.

        The hard part is the refining of rare earth minerals because it requires large investments in refineries to separate the materials and consolidate them. Infrastructure that Ukraine or America haven’t invested in.

        The minerals deal is just something that trump can point to as a “win” when in reality it’s not worth anything. Just like everything this administration does, it’s nothing but smoke and mirrors.

        • Dzso
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          242 months ago

          In that case, looks like Zelenskyy had the cards.

        • @[email protected]
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          162 months ago

          Ukraine doesn’t even have significant rare earth deposits. Nothing worth mining.

          However, those aren’t the only thing in the deal. Bunch of other minerals are in there, and oil and natural gas.

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          2 months ago

          I’m aware, but they’re also unfortunately rare in the US, and we need batteries if we don’t maintain a good trade relationship with China.

          • @[email protected]
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            52 months ago

            America actually has plenty of rare earth deposits, it’s just not profitable to mine them and then build facilities to refine them.

      • @[email protected]
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        152 months ago

        It’s going to take years if not decades to setup the full supply chain off that deal, he’ll likely be dead by then and China will be laughing the whole time.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 months ago

        Honestly, from everything I’ve seen so far, the new mineral deal seems pretty good and fair.

        • @[email protected]
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          172 months ago

          That depends on the deal actually being followed.

          Trump has zero intention of following through on any deal he makes, if he finds another option that is more beneficial to himself and himself alone, he will reneg on the deal in a microsecond.

  • @[email protected]
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    172 months ago

    A good thing. The orange cancer will side with Russia anyways. Wish more cough all cough countries would turn their backs and say piss off to that addled old twatwaffle.

  • @[email protected]
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    1192 months ago

    Ironically, that might be the most useful contribution to eventual peace in Ukraine the US has made for some time now.

    Thanks, I guess.

    • @[email protected]
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      242 months ago

      End the war before even taking office. Kept moving the bar, then eventually just pivoted and pretended there was no bar.

      • Ech
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        152 months ago

        Just gotta stop testing, ya know?

        • @[email protected]
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          172 months ago

          There’s no hurricanes if there’s no NOAA. There’s no bird flu if there’s no CDC.

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    Good. Should have never been there to begin with anyway. Peace talks are between the parties engaged in conflict and a peaceful nation for mediation. The US has not been a peaceful nation for some time with regards to being involved in armed conflicts itself.

  • @[email protected]
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    322 months ago

    This was pretty much what Michael Kofman predicted was going to happen months ago. As long as Russia feels that they can prevail militarily and is making maximalist demands based on that, and Ukraine is unwilling to accept those terms, there’s not really much room for mutually-acceptable terms.

    Even if they got something on paper, that’s not likely to translate to a durable peace.

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      If the US leadership weren’t idiots, they could have put pressure on Russia to get at least a ceasefire. Instead, they focused on bullying Ukraine.

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        I don’t know how much more pressure can be applied absent direct conflict between the US and Russia, which I don’t believe the US will do.

        Almost all US-Russia trade is gone, so not much to take away in economic terms.

        https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html

        In 2021, the US imported $29.6 billion from Russia and exported $6.4 billion.

        In 2024, the US imported $3 billion (90% gone) and exported $0.5 billion to Russia (92% gone).

        It might be possible to pressure other countries not to trade with Russia via use of secondary sanctions.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_Russia

        The top party there is China (who I don’t think that we’re in a position to compel to cut off from Russia).

        There’s Belarus, which I doubt is going to be compelled to cut off trade from Russia given the state of affairs.

        The other top countries are all EU members. I mean, we could try and put pressure on them, but theoretically they should be doing this themselves.

        Like, I can understand criticism as to Trump’s interactions with Zelenskyy, but I don’t think that there’s some magic, easy-to-use lever to compel Russia that the White House has in reserve. Maybe weapon supplies to Ukraine are the most-influential left.

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          I agree that economic sanctions are nearly maxed out, but as you mention, they could provide more military aid. Instead, that was already delayed last year by Republicans, and recently even intelligence support was suspended, as Russia increased the bombing of civilians. Adding to this, most public quotes were about blaming Ukraine and trying to appease Putin, which significantly influenced how “brave” Russia acted.

          The US is free to do with their resources as they please, but if they actually wanted to stop this war, they had the options to move towards to that. Instead the war went on for months without any positive results. The mineral deal can be a good step, but it seems to be the last one, so not sure it will be enough alone.

  • Spzi
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    112 months ago

    Such a FLOTUS. It’s all lies and empty promises, coated in idle boasting. What a fucking loser.