In case anyone finds the headline confusing this is what happened in order
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Rodney Hinton the older hit a much beloved semi retired deputy who was directing traffic for a college graduation. He is accused of doing so intentionally but the motive isn’t specified. He was not accused of stealing a car nor did it have anything to do with any other specified crime. This is pending trial.
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Ryan Hinton, son of Rodney Hinton, was involved in a car theft. He and 3 others were caught in said car and scattered in 4 different directions when police made contact.
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During the chase police shot and killed Ryan whom they allege had a gun on him. Indeed a gun was recovered. Purported to be in possession of the young man who was shot.That said the body cam footage is alleged to show another officer yelling about a gun rather than the gun itself from the vantage point of the officer.
Questions:
Is Rodney guilty of killing the deputy on purpose? If so why? Was it instead an accident?
Did the officer that shot the boy know he was the son of Rodney?
Why did Rodney pull out a gun but not fire it?
Is there further evidence showing the history of the particular gun? Fingerprints on the gun? Body cam footage from the other officer that more clearly establishes the gun in the hand of Rodney?
That is not correct. The events, as alleged, before someone jumps down my throat:
- Ryan steals a car
- Cops try to arrest Ryan
- Ryan flees, cops shoot Ryan
- Ryan’s dad Rodney hits and kills an unrelated cop with his car
That would make more sense but did you pull up two dated stories of the events and confirm that is the proper order?
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Destroy the Pigs.
This was a very confusing headline. It sounded like they were charging a dead person.
Bottom line is:
- 18 year old gets shot by police
- The father of the 18 year old hit and killed a deputy with his car later on.
- Bunch of fucking tweakers doing tweaker shit and the cops have to chase them.
edit: yeah, ACAB but you motherfuckers do know that there is a subset of people out there doing crimes like car theft and shit, right? The citizens in this case don’t seem to be all that upstanding.
One dead dude, one dead pig. Call it even?
Which is a valid reason to use lethal force?
Yes, for the father to use lethal force on the corrupt racist deputy is a totally valid reason.
If he had done in the cop that shot his son I’d be more inclined to agree. But he picked a rando. ACAB but not all of them deserve death because not all of them shoot people for little to no reason.
Why can’t some headline writers use comas?
Father of, 18 year old fatally shot by Ohio police, charged with hitting and killing deputy, with car
Damn, I know everyone else said it too but honestly wtf is this travesty you’ve written. It’s an affront to the comma and maybe to punctuation everywhere. Hell, your “correction” might be an ungodly abomination born of the netherworld sent to break our poor brains.
That is not at all how you use commas. You’ve broken your clauses.
Father of 18 year old, fatally shot by Ohio police, charged with hitting and killing deputy with car.
That would be correct. Good ACT question lol.
While your certainly sounds better with the word choice in the headline, it doesn’t reflect the actual facts of events.
“Father of an 18 year old,” establishes the father as the subject, and the 18 year old as a specifying factor. So the the rest of the sentence states, it was the father who was “fatally shot by Ohio police” and “charged with hitting and killing deputy”. It’s still unclear if it was the father or the deputy who was “with car”.
Where as my commas separate the facts accurately. Their strangeness comes from the extremely poor word choice and order of facts in the headline.
“Father of,” establishes the father as the subject. “18 year old fatally shot by Ohio police,” is together a single specifier. “charged with hitting and killing deputy,” states what happened to the father. And finally “, with car” is what the father used, to hit and kill the deputy.
“Father of,” establishes the father as the subject. “18 year old fatally shot by Ohio police,”
No. The subject is the father yes, but you can’t cut off the “of” that way.
But using those words you’d have to, to establish that it isn’t actually the father who was shot, but the 18 year old.
The terrible use commas comes from the terrible word choice. Rewriting the entire sentence would be the best option.
That is arguably worse
Whoever taught you how to use commas needs their teaching license revoked because that is probably the worst attempted use of commas I’ve ever seen.
There is a whole part of journalism dedicated to writing headlines, and I can tell you it’s some of the most fucked up literally rules I have seen in my life.
Going into a coma does not make you a better journalist, and neither does having a stroke
Headlines aren’t usually written by journalists.
Especially at big shops like this.And I hate golf.
Don’t call me Shirley!
This reminds me of that chapter in Flowers for Algernon.
Have you ever used a comma before
Yah. Just used it 3 times.
“Today I choose violence” punctuation edition.
Calm your shit Shatner
Hopefully he got the one who killed his son?
Dunno, they haven’t released the identity of the “victim” so we don’t know who the driver killed.
I’m not going to go so far as to condone this dad’s behavior, but I can definitely understand it. Police are never held accountable; what else is there to expect than the spread of vigilante violence if the law won’t give us justice?
Even if the deputy that was hit didn’t pull the trigger, they’re part of the institution that’s the problem. So the logic of the dad to target a deputy, even if they aren’t the one that shit his kid, makes sense in a way. I’m sure eventually we’ll know if this deputy was the one who killed the father’s 18 year old son.
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ACAB after all. Even if he didn’t fire, they enable and protect each others murder of civilians, and their pet dogs.
“Let me be very direct: We cannot allow individuals to flee from officers with a loaded firearm aimed at them,” she said. “When this happens, the outcome is almost always tragic. No one wins, and everyone involved is affected.”
Absolutely disgusting mindset for the police to operate in and it should be a condemnation of them, not an excuse for killing a fleeing person merely suspected of committing a property crime.
Armed gang murders member of the public (with the full intention of “investigating” themselves and finding they did nothing wrong), is shocked that public would kill one of their own, and expects the public to shed tears for their fellow gang member (who was really a great guy… every other gang member loved him).
so the kid, unarmed, was shot in the back because he didn’t submit?
The kid was armed and pointing it at the cops.
But he also wasn’t shooting at them, he was running away. In that scenario, you don’t shoot him, because even if he starts shooting he ain’t gonna hit shit.
I’m sorry, but you don’t think the police should shoot at him if he’s running because …… he will have bad aim? No, the second someone starts firing at police - or anyone for that matter - they should be put down.
His point was you don’t fire wildly when you don’t know what you’re aiming at. Cops routinely hurt other people because they don’t care about what’s in their field of Fire. Also very important to note no one said anything about anyone firing on the police. You’re adding that.
Read his comment again. He was talking about the suspect, not the police. His point was that the kid was running and as such his aim would have been terrible.
Don’t state that as fact. It’s just what the cops have claimed so far, and they lie constantly
Never pull a gun if you arent prepared to use it.
Police claim “kid was armed and pointing it at the cops.” Cops are famous for making up bullshit to justify their murders after the fact.
cops are trained to shout “he’s got a gun” after opening fire regardless because eyewitnesses won’t remember the order of events and back them up
Even if that was true, though, it doesn’t justify it.
True, but cops think it does.
Idk “he was aiming a gun at me” is a pretty good reason to shoot back imo. Now whether or not he was actually doing that is a different story
I try to go to the gun range every two months or so. I can tell you, with adrenaline and panic, idk if I’d hit 50% and thats standing still. Which is scary because who knows what you’ll hit. That’s why I go to the range, to be good enough. Running I wouldn’t even bother shooting.
Cops are definitely not going to the range enough.
2019 Miramar shootout(the florida UPS shootout)
In 2024, important details were finally revealed, a total of 20 officers from 4 different agencies fired upwards of 221 bullets in a span of 25 seconds, Hill was struck 40 times, meanwhile Alexander shot himself, Ordonez was struck 12 times, and the 5 bullets that stayed in his body were all traced to police weapons, and Cutshaw was struck once in the back of the head, which was also traced back to police.
Four people were killed in the shootout. Both robbery suspects, Lamar Alexander, and Ronnie Jerome Hill, both 41, were killed by police. The hijacked UPS driver, Frank Ordonez, 27, and bystander Richard Cutshaw, 70, were also both killed in the shootout;[6] A female store employee was shot and wounded in the initial robbery.
Our fucking country, where the life of a car is worth more than the life of a human. ACAB.
Huh? The kid stole a car and was fleeing and armed with a loaded gun.
It’s America, everyone has a gun. It’s a constitutional right, not an excuse for cops to murder whomever they want to. They usually want to kill people of color and always want to kill poor people.
Carrying a gun while roaming the streets isn’t allowed everywhere, and neither is pointing them at people - especially police officers while they’re trying to detain you for stealing a car.
Is stealing a car punishable by a death sentence? Is possessing a firearm punishable by a death sentence? If either of those things were punishable by a death sentence, cops are not judge jury and executioner. There is a thing called due process. There is no proof the guy even had a gun. The cop SAID he had one, and cops are well known for carrying around throw away guns, to plant on people after they have killed them. The video doesn’t show a gun but miraculously one was found next to the guy afterward. It must have fallen from heaven.
Is stealing a car punishable by a death sentence?
No, but pointing a loaded gun at a police officer while stealing a car is.
Is possessing a firearm punishable by a death sentence?
No, but pointing a loaded gun at a police officer while stealing a car is.
cops are not judge jury and executioner
They are in certain situations though, typically ones where suspected criminals - especially ones caught in the act - point guns at them. Every time they are there will be an investigation to determine if it was a lawful shooting, and if it isn’t they will face consequences (though very often those consequences will NOT be harsh enough, but that’s a different story).
There is a thing called due process.
There’s a thing called obeying the law too, and this kid didn’t follow that. “Due process”, the flavour of the month for the left, believe it or not DOES include police shooting suspects to death in certain circumstances.
There is no proof the guy even had a gun.
You haven’t seen it, though it reportedly exists. We’ll see when the final reports come out.
The cop SAID he had one, and cops are well known for carrying around throw away guns, to plant on people after they have killed them.
Ok so you’ve jumped straight to “it’s a conspiracy”. Good for you, but the rest of us like to wait for actual evidence and “due process” to play out. It is currently being investigated. If it is proven that he did have a gun, what will you say then?
Supposedly. Are you aware of the allegations of planting evidence thrown at many, many police officers in the good ol’ US of A? It is a known issue and I’ll take a criminals word before a police officers.
It’s happened on camera many times with zero charges filed or consequences for the pigs planting their own truffles
So you just assume that every single piece of evidence is planted?
and I’ll take a criminals word before a police officers.
Oh ok, so no one should take anything you say seriously.
Certainly, nor you. Police officers lie by rote all the time. They are untrustworthy “witnesses” because they are always protecting their own interests and not telling the facts of the case.
Unlike criminals, right? Criminals are known as being honest and trustworthy and law abiding citizens.
Many of them just smoked some pot, or were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Such vile scum deserves as much respect as Mr. Shoot first and ask questions later.
And many murdered people, committed break and enters, stole property, sold drugs, raped people, etc. Many did it with guns too. You trust those people as being good upstanding honest citizens?
Fleeing seems like the operative word in that sentence to me.
Fleeing doesn’t give you a free pass to be armed with a gun and aim said gun at police officers.
“FAFO”
For clarities sake, there is body cam footage where it alleges he points the gun at the officer while fleeing.
Now I haven’t seen the footage that corroborates this and the footage I did see doesn’t back this statement up (nor does it exclude it, it’s from the POV of another officer)
However the dad apparently left viewing the body cam footage with their lawyer and then went and did this.
I’d expect the body cam footage to show anyone who isn’t a cop that he was running and had a gun in his possession and it likely doesn’t matter from the perspective of the cops if it was actually pointed at him or not.
Basically my bet is the body cam footage corroborates whichever side of the story your want it to.
The outcome of guns is shots fired and folks dead, unfortunately.
I’m not going to try and defend the police in general here. And I’m not going to defend the police involved with this or the kid or the dad. We do not know enough and there is waaaay too much misinformation being spread about this. Anyone who claims to know the “right” thing to do here is either naive or lying.
But, with all that being said. I am a CCW card holder and I do regularly carry as is my constitutional and legal (in my state) right to do so. I also did the whole CCW course (even though my state has constitutional carry laws), go shooting once or twice a month, and annually attend another CCW focused course hosted by a shooting range in partnership with the state sheriff.
But from what I’ve heard, the police started chasing the kid who pulled out a gun (a popular theory I’ve heard online was to dump the weapon). But in that scenario, I can see why the officers would have reacted the way they did. I was taught that if you have to pull a gun on someone the only two de-escalation paths available to you is either them laying face down on the ground, or you killing them. Yes, technically there are other ways, but in a very high stress scenario those things take time and if you pull a gun out you should be 1000000% committed to shooting whatever you have pointed it at.
Like you said, the only thing guns are good at is killing. And no matter how pro-2A and gun loving you are, that’s all they will ever be good for.
I don’t know. I guess this was a really long wall of text to say “we don’t know enough” and “don’t pull a gun out while running from the police”.
Police better keep an eye on mom and any other siblings, as bad decisions clearly run in that family…
Edit: I’m just going to assume the 20 downvoters didn’t actually bother to read the article 🤷♂️
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Hey, that cop just became a good cop.
Charged him with what? Dining on a succulent meal of revenge?
40,000 people a year are killed by drivers in cars. Many of them are pedestrians. Generally, as long as the driver isn’t intoxicated, the death is chalked up as an unavoidable accident. That’s what we have here. The man just didn’t see the cop. His eyes were filled with tears and he was distracted. Such a tragedy the pig is dead. Give the grieving father a ticket for careless driving and a few points on his license that will go away in a couple of years. That’s what would happen if it was one of us. #ACAB #FuckCars
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While I am not defending Rodney, who is has not been found guilty of the charges, I cannot tell you what I would do if my child was taken from me.
I have a spouse and multiple kids. I have parents who still live. I have siblings. Intellectually, I think I would not murder my child’s murderer and inflict extra harm on my family through my actions… but that situation hasn’t happened and I have no clue how I would actually react. Right now, my blood is boiling just contemplating it, though.
If I were a single parent of one child, and that child was killed, then I would turn into fucking Liam Neeson without hesitation.
edit: I finished reading the article after posting this. It’s not clear that the officer Rodney struck was the same officer who shot Rodney’s son, and seems to be unrelated from the wording. I feel for Deputy Henderson’s family, and hope he wasn’t an innocent who happened to be wearing the same uniform.
Police in the US regularly choose to escalate, and our politicians choose to keep firearms available. All these deaths are on Congress.
If people keep using cars as weapons, soon we’ll have to treat them like guns, and not regulate them in any meaningful way.
Cops who shoot people who aren’t shooting at them and who haven’t been involved in a violent crime deserve to die too.
The guy should get off scott free due to Qualified Immunity. Just like the cops.
The cop was armed and was already known to shoot someone in the back, the father was afraid for his life and had to make a split second decision.
That cop was no angel
scott free
scot free
Apparently qualified immunity doesn’t make you immune to bumpers.
Make cops ground beef again
Wouldn’t they be ground pork?
PORK AND BEANS
