If they’re willing to make sacrifices why not ~1-2 hours a week dedicated to unionizing their workplace
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No, no sacrifices are acceptable. Workers generally get taken advantage of in the US. I think everyone is tired of being taken advantage of. It’s time for businesses to actually treat people better.
Yes, we are tired of being exploited.
Yeah bruh, those of us who are lucky enough to have control over our schedules are already doing this. Fuck it, I take every liberty I can. Until the fat fucks above me start working for a living, I will do as little as possible.
No!!! You can’t work just 40 hours a week! We need you to work just 40 hours a week! This is madness!
I typically have a 3 1/2 day work week. I get paid on what I produce. I COULD produce more and get paid more but after over a decade I have leaned that it’s not worth it. The more I make, the more we spend to cover the absence of not being able to live our own lives.
The more I make, the more we spend to cover the absence of not being able to live our own lives. Solid point. I think this is a trap a lot of people fall into.
As someone who recently started working 4 days, there is absolutely less void in my life. Though the pains of the working days are often amplified because there’s just that much more awareness of weighing each working day against the life I’m building outside.
I’m not sacrificing shit, asshole. We fucking deserve a 4 day work week after decades of skyrocketing productivity and shit wages.
We’ve been sacrificing every time we get a “raise” or a “cost of living adjustment” that doesn’t even come close to keeping up with inflation.
Productivity has been on a rocket to the moon since the beginning of the industrial revolution, so centuries.
Fuck no, no sacrifices. Productivity is up, wealth is up, people should be paid more for their time and have more time to spare.
Yea this article is painting that the people are the problem here. Sacrifice the super rich CEOs instead.
Sacrifice I’m willing to make: sacrificing the CEO to the Old Gods.
I’d work 2x 12 hour days and 1x 14 hour day. Heck, I’d work 2x 19 hour days. Or work 38 hours straight in one shift?
The real problem is, how many politicians and capitalists are we willing to sacrifice before we get this 4-day mandate.
That sounds like a solution, not a problem. I’m all for it.
It’s more like: How many do we have to keep. The less the better.
Not to question msnbc or anything, but these stats seem like utter bullshit. Only 10% of offerings are remote? They must be including fast food and manufacturing jobs in their data, because when I look at LinkedIn it’s like 70%.
Unfortunately for LinkedIn I found out a lot are fake and they dont actually hire you remote, and they tell you straight up at the first interview… They’re basically doing it as SEO and wasting everybody’s time
I guess I’m actually a strong data point for the four day work week. I have never been psychologically stable on a five day work week. On every five day schedule, I shake myself apart. I end up suicidally anxious and depressed, have repeatedly considered inpatient treatment. I worked four days at my last job and work four at my current job. I was/am the highest performing employee at both of these jobs. I even enjoy the longer hours per day. I get the dip in productivity at hour 5-6 that people have mentioned in here, but I just need a break for lunch and caffeine to have another four or five hours outperforming my coworkers. It’s that third day off that I need, the one in the middle that doesn’t touch any workday. If I get that one untethered day, I show back up enthusiastic and ready to kick ass. It definitely helps that I genuinely love my industry and job overall (I work at a dispensary, which is very important to me) but that didn’t stop my latest attempt at a five day work week from trying to kill me like all the others.
Same here. I’m a fiber tech for a cable company, and working 4×10’s are awesome. I only work 2 extra hours, and I barely get more work than I did when I worked 8 hours.
It’s fucking awesome😃
A lot of U.S. factory jobs are 12 hour days, alternating between 4 day on, 3 days off, 3 days on, 4 days off. Probably not what most people are thinking of though.
My last cushy office job was 4.5 days/week about half the time (beginning of the quarter was 4.5 day weeks, end of quarter was 5 day week), and seemed to work well. Some stupid workaholic assholes would complain about the 4.5 day work weeks though.
In my experience, productivity per hour increases the less hours people work. Workaholics are just trying to stay away from their family, or don’t know what to do with themselves in their free-time, IMO.
12s do make sense in Healthcare where every handoff is an opportunity to miss important information. For instance if you forget to mention all the specifics of all your patients injuries after a car wreck, the next nurse might not realize their sinuses are cracked and just go ahead and insert that nasogastric feeding tube into their brain.
3 handoffs a day instead of 2 is 1.5 as many chances to make an error like that.
That said, 2x12s a week instead of 3 sounds lovely.
Ahhhhhh, but one is less likely to make an error when they’re tired. In sure that even nursing could rotate to a 3x shift per day cycle and the wheels wouldn’t fall off.
Honestly I’d settle for making sure the doctors hand off q12h. They often work 48 hour shifts with even more disastrous possibilities.
I’d sacrifice a couple of my daily hours of slacking off for a 4-day work week.
I probably only get about three, maybe three and a half, days of work a week anyway.
We don’t actually have anything much to do and yet the company has just expanded the department.
There was a story about a guy in Google who, as it turned out, worked only an hour a day, and the rest of the time he worked on his passion project. The thing is, he did everything he was supposed to do, every metric was OK, all the tickets were closed and everyone was happy.
When it was posted on one IT forum, the comments were full of people accusing him of stealing money from the company and how he should be fired into the sun. All of those commenters were basically a regular IT guys. The lack of class solidarity is astonishing.Mmmmmh the sweet taste of polish on one’s tongue
As the old saying goes, companies always want to fire the IT staff because everything’s fine and nothing ever goes wrong.
If you’re doing your job properly, then you basically never do anything.
Yesterday I did literally nothing, except at 4:55 p.m. somebody rang up because the spam filter had trapped an email that he wanted. So I was in work for 8 hours in order to fix an issue that took 2 minutes to fix.
But the company know how often I receive calls, but they’ve been around for decades now, so I suspect that they probably worked out back in the 90s that firing IT staff because they that much work to do, just results in them needing to hire more IT staff later on.
When I was younger, I worked as an IT guy on a printing factory, we had 24 hours shifts. The day was a usual IT shit, and at nights we did a little bit of maintenance but mostly we were on standby to fix IT stuff in the factory, most of the printing was done on the nights so the fresh press goes out in the morning. Mostly we were paid handsomely to play WOW the whole night, and once in a blue moon go to the factory floor and reboot something or repair a patchcord or reinstall a memory stick or something.
Then the company got merged with the other media company, they took over the factory, and their first decision was to remove night shifts, because why do you need to pay those IT wankers, they don’t do anything most of the time. Of course most of us left but they had their own IT guys and everything was great, they were able to conserve so much money on salary, until one day one of the computers run out of disk space in the middle of the night and that clogged the whole damn factory, and since all the IT was home asleep, nobody was able to clear the cache, so nothing got printed, everyone involved lost millions, and the whole company was ultimately bankrupted because of this.
If we pass a law forcing employers to pay for commute time, I’m sure all sides will want 4-day work weeks.
That or go for WFH for eligible jobs
We were soooo close… Then big real-estate started losing value so they had to justify the offices somehow.
If they’re paying commune they’ll probably want 2x20 hour shifts
I’m in.
They’d either have to support remote work or pay is enough to live within a few minutes of the office.
I have an hour-long drive because that’s where I can afford to live.
