And somehow every single time the problem was so easy to solve, but apparently crying about it is the better solution.
This is just a variant of the “Ask question, use an alt acc to answer it incorrectly” method of getting help.
Harness the OCD of the internet (https://xkcd.com/386/)
The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it’s to post the wrong answer.
Perfect demonstration :)
Well played. Glad to assist.
Linus Sebastian . Is this you?
Actually, the best way is to post a question to Reddit.
Nvmd, I fixed the issue
Ngl, i love linux so much more and would never go back to windows but right now my audio jack doesn’t work for my new pc build.
I’ve contacted the manufacturer of the motherboard, they say to try Windows
I’ve posted on linux questions subreddit, nothing replied
I’ve posted on EndeavourOS forums, got views, not replies.
I’ve gone so into the weeds I’m trying to remap pins because I’m assuming the manufacturer relies on something Windows pre-configures so audio will play but it never makes it out of the port but it’s been weeks and I can’t solve it.
Again, I’d never go back to windows but damn do I feel stranded rn.
Motherboard: Minisforum BD790i X3D OS: endeavouros
Does it work on Windows?
Because it could just as well be a shitty solder job
Also next time never say you use Linux to a support tech. They will blame it all on linux, whether the pc is broken in half or covered in rat piss, it will always be you who broke it by using unsupported software.
This!
Yup, I noticed that I couldn’t use an audio and microphone jack at the same time after an update, so I went around searching for what might have broke it. Then since Windows was still installed I tried it there and it still didn’t work. I’m pretty sure it’s a weird hardware error.
Have you tried making a meme about how windows is so much better?
What always has me seeing red is when I’m deep diving forums searching for anyone who has had my exact issue. Finding people with similar, but not exactly the same, issues with easy solutions that don’t work for me. Finally finding one forum post from 9 months ago, it is literally the exact same issue I’m dealing with. One reply. It’s OP a few days/weeks/months later replying to their own post only to say:
Nevermind, I fixed it.
But no solution, no response to commenting on the post or DMing…
Makes me wanna slap a mfr…
From a quick search it seems that the mobo uses a Realtek audio chip, which is probably the actual problem. My current system build uses one and it barely worked under Windows, it’d randomly remap the channels, sometimes it just wouldn’t come up properly (Showed as only a microphone, etc.), had lots of static noise, would constantly think I was unplugging and replugging headphones in, etc. Just a terrible experience compared to the Intel audio system the build before this used.
As much as “just buy another bit of hardware” is an awful bit of advice, I’d recommend getting a USB DAC/soundcard, I bought a cheap soundblaster one and it fixed all my problems. USB audio is a well-defined standardised protocol that’s supported by just about everything, does away with any driver issues or incompatibilities, can be moved between devices, etc. Mine’s a “gaming” model so it’s just a USB port on one side and a headset jack on the other, but you can also get ones with proper inbuilt amplifiers to run full speaker kits, etc.
Does your monitor have speakers, or a headphone jack? Interested to see if the sound works that way. And very silly question, have you tried a different wire/device in the audio jack or only the one?
Just getting back around to trying to fix this,
I’ve tried multiple headsets, they work on my brothers laptop but not this. I’m debating just getting a USB headset but I would prefer to just fix this. Someone else gave me advice that it’s a common issue where it mutes itself in… alsamixer/pavucontrol (I forget) so I’m about to dive back into it
Then ask why no one has patched this well-known bug after all these years, and get flooded with ‘anyone can contribute’ comments.
But its true
No one is paying these people to contribute to Linux. If someone would bring you donuts every day for free, you wouldn’t start barrading them with comments about how he comes late sometimes.
And if you want that bug to be fixed, pay a software engineer to fix it, out of your own pocket. If they then dont do it, then you can start talking about them being late.
Be grateful for all these people making your computer more than a brick.
Sure, but ‘make your own doughnuts’ isn’t exactly a useful response to that.
No, I’m pretty sure “try volunteering yourself” is a perfectly reasonable response to “why has nobody volunteered to fix this?”
Could you tell me where I said you should just contribute yourself? My grep dosent seem to find it.
I said ‘don’t complain about things people are making in their free time for you to enjoy.’
That was in reference to what you were responding to.
I gave up on switching to linux after losing 2 entire evenings setting it up (linux mint) just for my games not to run and not a single solution I could find working.
I’ll give it another try once I buy my new PC and set that up, but Linux is not as plug and play as windows and I totally understand that non-IT people want to stay away from it now. The community makes it sound as if everything is almost out of the box simple but that is not the case at all.
Don’t give up before you have tried using memes to get support!
The only way to actually get support with linux issues huh 😂
Your plan sounds good, then you can take your time working on the old PC and re-install as needed, especially because the newer windows versions are happy to kill a dual booted Linux.
Thanks, here’s to hoping it works out
Then probably your Pc was too new
Id always recommend using Opensuse anyway
And how did your Games not run? Did you even try to look them up on Protondb?
edit: Oh, I get it. Anyways, how much is Microsoft/the CIA paying you for this?
This pc is from about 2022/2023
The games were gold or platinum on protonDB and run fine on my steam deck
Steam / Lutris said they’re running, nothing shows up.
Your edit is another reason I actually rather stay away from Linux instead of giving it a chance / asking for help. The community feels way too elitist and insulting to anyone not praising it.
There are clowns in every community and they are typically the loudest ones. Sorry Linux didn’t work out for you this time around. Hardware variables are hard to account for which if I had to bet, hardware weirdness is likely to be the root of your issue.
Sadly people like this have been there at every corner when I talk about my issues/reasons for not switching (yet). I still want to, but also think this turns off a lot of people.
That was also my guess certainly with an nvidia GPU. My next pc will be AMD based partially because I really want to make the step to Linux
Yeah, depending on its age an NVIDIA GPU can be a non-starter. That said, I had a 2060 when I first transitioned to Linux last year and had no issues.
Its a 3080 bought at release (its a bit newer than the rest of my pc). Was already afraid having an NVIDIA GPU was gonna mess it all up
You might be interested in giving Nobara Linux a try. It has a built in automated NVIDIA driver manager that you can run on first boot.
Im sorry, I just saw a downvote and thoughts this was another post just ranting and not wanting help
You should probably try Gamescope. I had the same issue many times with GNOME, so using a seperate renderer would at least solve wether the Problem is with the DE or the PC itself
Also, if you dont use proton as the runner you should have a seperate wine directory with vcredist installed for every game, since wine dosent like having more than 1 thing per directory.
Also try installing lutris and steam through flatpak, that way they are system independent too
Thanks for clearing it up. It is a slight rant as well I wasted a lot of time haha, I’ve already removed the Linux partition and made it windows again so I could reinstall my games. As I’m planning on getting my new pc within the next few months (as long as budget allows) I’m not planning on retrying until I have that system.
I’ve looked up gamescope but can’t figure out how I’d get that to work, did put it in my notes for when I’m trying Linux again tho, perhaps a video will clear it up. Thanks!
I tried proton and wine (at least, steam used proton and if I understand correctly Lutris uses Wine?) but both just had the same issue
I had steam installed through flatpak so don’t think that was the issue either
this right here is the bullshit that keeps people out, brother
Same things goes for leftist thinking (I see you’re a .ml enjoyer)
Stop trying to browbeat people into your ideology, calling them stupid provokes an irrational negative emotional response, even if your ideas are objectively more logical, as they’ll just reject it
This is why capitalism is so effective with their “come to the dark side, we have cookies!”
Just because it’s free doesn’t mean you don’t need to sell it
As always the best way to get a response on the internet is not to ask a question.
The best way is to post a wrong answer.
Classic murphys law.
You are WRONG! That is Cunningham’s Law!
(Hook, line, and sinker)
This is right and every body agrees.
Good ol’ Murphy. The Hammurabi of the internet.
I’ve switched to Linux because at this point it’s easier to deal with problems on Linux than using Windows and getting it to usable state.
And if something doesn’t run on Linux… I use something else, easy as that.
I’ve been in the comments section once or twice. The solution was “RTFM.”
The good old ways. I miss them.
Nowadays, it’s more “User Manual? You mean the Manufacturer’s Opinion?”
TFM isn’t worth the R. It doesn’t describe failure states or bugs in a way that a normal user understands or can work with. Either it works perfectly, or there’s basically no way to figure out exactly what went wrong and how.
RTFM in this case means: Read the fucking man-page
Sometimes I get confused with man pages and have to go on other sites with different explanations and examples. Maybe that’s just me
No, that’s the state of documentation on Linux.
In OpenBSD, bad or lacking documentation is treated as a release-critical bug in the package.
The man pages would be so much less dry if they just put a few examples at the top. But nope. So I continue to
curl cht.sh/taruntil the heat death of the universeEdit: autocorrect
I used to do some linux training for new hires at my old job. The company had a training room with a rack of servers for lab work.
It was a training on how to deploy the product on a customer server. I personally wrote the instructions and tested them on the lab machines after a fresh install.
I had others test the lab instructions. I even had people from non-tech roles verify that they too could do the labs by following the instructions.
Still I get a guy in the training complaining that “this doesn’t work” and I can see from the error on his screen that he must have skipped one of the steps in the lab instructions.
He’s not even trying to figure it out. Even though others are finishing, he just decided that it doesn’t work and gave up.
Well, if you’re expecting users to read…
Yeah its a tough crowd sometimes. Especially when doing that training with our customers.
I’ll never forget the time I was explainging how something worked and one of the customers interrupts me saying, “I don’t care about this – can you just show me where to click?”
I’ve done my share of training too. Some people just want recipes. They have no interest in knowing why they’re doing something.
How is this clown behavior? If anything, not accepting the proposed solution to the issue would be it
This is more like, wisdom of the ancients kind of thing
Fine, I’ll give this strategy a shot too: Linux is crap because when I switch USB audio interface with a switcher the audio becomes extremely borked likely because of buffer settings somehow changing, to me it feels like the buffer is too small and then all these audio crackling issues start propping up.
Windows doesn’t have this issue whatsoever, it’s only when I switch back to Linux in the switcher that the audio is borked.
Pipewire/Pipewire-pulse
I haven’t messed around with audio in a while, but a couple of years ago I did some home recording. And Linux at the time was horrible to use for recording. Got a bunch of latency and some other issues. I found a solution where one guy had written a bunch of scripts to deal with the buffering when switching audio driver. It helped, but it wasn’t perfect.
No idea what the state of audio is now, but it used to suck. And it will probably suck for a while since the major DAWs are all on Windows/Mac. But I would love to be proven wrong
I use reaper on Linux to monitor my guitar coming in from Axe Fx 3’s spdif output with very low latency. What exactly was giving you issues with latency ?
Might have been the soundcard on my laptop, the old external soundcard I used or audio driver. No idea what the problem actually was. This was a couple of years ago, and I wasn’t very proficient in Linux. I gave up, and then haven’t tried again since.
I used Reaper and an old soundcard from Steinberg. Don’t remember which drivers. Think I ran Ubuntu at the time.
I have a Bluetooth dongle headset-mic. Probably for the same buffer reason, it constantly breaks audio when I have multiple audios in/outs running.
The only consistent fix is switching to another audio driver and playing a video on YouTube while I switch it back.
YouTube specifically? Or does it work as long as any audio is running? I usually leave games on and switch back in and the audio’s borked.
Truth is, windows has plenty of such small annoyances just as well, it’s just that everyone is used to the windows way of doing it, so it’s not even worth joking about it.
People just don’t want to have fewer annoyances that are solved differently and most often more easily. Change bad.
“It’s a shame anything has to change. The Sun has changed its position in the sky and I don’t trust it one bit.”
- Welcome to Nightvale
When I first started using Linux I was impressed with how easily everything seemed to work. Then over time I started to get annoyed with all the things that I had no idea how to fix without looking up, and thought about going back to Windows.
Then I used windows again and was immediately reminded of all the stupid bullshit I had to constantly fight with and forgot about because that was just the norm when windows is the only OS you ever use.The times I think about switching back, I just think back to the first month on Linux full time when I realized I was no longer constantly pissed off at everything my system was doing I didn’t want it to do or not doing that I did want. And a lot of it wasn’t even conscious anymore, like just realizing that a constant background radiation was just … Not there anymore.
Of course, having to use it at work every day still helps remind me… But I’m working on at least making my workstation into a Linux box, even if the servers are still going to be Windows.
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I guess if I had to throw some shade at M$, I really hate how garbage the registry has become. Back in the day it was great for very specific solutions and some personalization, but now I have to crawl through hundreds of drop downs on a fresh install just to fix simple things on Microsoft’s own software.
So many times I see junior Devs (or not so juniors) and normies seeing an error message and, visibly, static plays between their ears on their mental TV set, then they just click the first button that looks appropriate and complain it didn’t work.
The text of the message does not get read or parsed.
“You need to close the program to continue”. Doesn’t work.
“Unexpected X at line N” Doesn’t work.
Drives me insane.
Unfortunately, so many error messages are so utterly useless that it has taught many people that all errors are just pointless background noise even if they’re actually giving useful info.
I mean, java and Microsoft errors are preceded by 120 characters of useless trash oftentimes, that is equally as infuriating.
Yeah, proprietary software are the worst offenders.
Or Windows gives you a blue screen and just “BAD_POOL_HEADER”.
I got that intermittently at work on an instrument about every week or two. The best answer I could find was “it could be software or hardware related”. Yeah, thanks for that, problem solved. Wish I had thought of that. Not even a time stamp. Finally found out when it occurred to within 20 minutes and there was jack shit in the logs.
IT ended up calling in a service tech to re-image the computer.
Ah, windows logs, another amazing experience that doesn’t make me want to kill everyone.
tail /var/log/thing.logis far too easy
What happened to RTFM?!?
Check the Discord.
🤮
this is the way. the best way to get linux support is to claim something isnt there or working. instant flood of reply from nerds and adhs ppl… i am not advocating it, but OP is wrong…
It’s not just Linux. Make a statement related to anything with authority where someone can see it, and someone will come along and take the opportunity to be Right on the Internet.
Relevant xkcd: Duty Calls
