And somehow every single time the problem was so easy to solve, but apparently crying about it is the better solution.
Sometimes memes are the only way we know how to cope
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I gave up on switching to linux after losing 2 entire evenings setting it up (linux mint) just for my games not to run and not a single solution I could find working.
I’ll give it another try once I buy my new PC and set that up, but Linux is not as plug and play as windows and I totally understand that non-IT people want to stay away from it now. The community makes it sound as if everything is almost out of the box simple but that is not the case at all.
Then probably your Pc was too new
Id always recommend using Opensuse anyway
And how did your Games not run? Did you even try to look them up on Protondb?
edit: Oh, I get it. Anyways, how much is Microsoft/the CIA paying you for this?
This pc is from about 2022/2023
The games were gold or platinum on protonDB and run fine on my steam deck
Steam / Lutris said they’re running, nothing shows up.
Your edit is another reason I actually rather stay away from Linux instead of giving it a chance / asking for help. The community feels way too elitist and insulting to anyone not praising it.
There are clowns in every community and they are typically the loudest ones. Sorry Linux didn’t work out for you this time around. Hardware variables are hard to account for which if I had to bet, hardware weirdness is likely to be the root of your issue.
Sadly people like this have been there at every corner when I talk about my issues/reasons for not switching (yet). I still want to, but also think this turns off a lot of people.
That was also my guess certainly with an nvidia GPU. My next pc will be AMD based partially because I really want to make the step to Linux
Yeah, depending on its age an NVIDIA GPU can be a non-starter. That said, I had a 2060 when I first transitioned to Linux last year and had no issues.
Its a 3080 bought at release (its a bit newer than the rest of my pc). Was already afraid having an NVIDIA GPU was gonna mess it all up
You might be interested in giving Nobara Linux a try. It has a built in automated NVIDIA driver manager that you can run on first boot.
Im sorry, I just saw a downvote and thoughts this was another post just ranting and not wanting help
You should probably try Gamescope. I had the same issue many times with GNOME, so using a seperate renderer would at least solve wether the Problem is with the DE or the PC itself
Also, if you dont use proton as the runner you should have a seperate wine directory with vcredist installed for every game, since wine dosent like having more than 1 thing per directory.
Also try installing lutris and steam through flatpak, that way they are system independent too
Thanks for clearing it up. It is a slight rant as well I wasted a lot of time haha, I’ve already removed the Linux partition and made it windows again so I could reinstall my games. As I’m planning on getting my new pc within the next few months (as long as budget allows) I’m not planning on retrying until I have that system.
I’ve looked up gamescope but can’t figure out how I’d get that to work, did put it in my notes for when I’m trying Linux again tho, perhaps a video will clear it up. Thanks!
I tried proton and wine (at least, steam used proton and if I understand correctly Lutris uses Wine?) but both just had the same issue
I had steam installed through flatpak so don’t think that was the issue either
this right here is the bullshit that keeps people out, brother
Same things goes for leftist thinking (I see you’re a .ml enjoyer)
Stop trying to browbeat people into your ideology, calling them stupid provokes an irrational negative emotional response, even if your ideas are objectively more logical, as they’ll just reject it
This is why capitalism is so effective with their “come to the dark side, we have cookies!”
Just because it’s free doesn’t mean you don’t need to sell it
Don’t give up before you have tried using memes to get support!
The only way to actually get support with linux issues huh 😂
Your plan sounds good, then you can take your time working on the old PC and re-install as needed, especially because the newer windows versions are happy to kill a dual booted Linux.
Thanks, here’s to hoping it works out
I’ve switched to Linux because at this point it’s easier to deal with problems on Linux than using Windows and getting it to usable state.
And if something doesn’t run on Linux… I use something else, easy as that.
I used to do some linux training for new hires at my old job. The company had a training room with a rack of servers for lab work.
It was a training on how to deploy the product on a customer server. I personally wrote the instructions and tested them on the lab machines after a fresh install.
I had others test the lab instructions. I even had people from non-tech roles verify that they too could do the labs by following the instructions.
Still I get a guy in the training complaining that “this doesn’t work” and I can see from the error on his screen that he must have skipped one of the steps in the lab instructions.
He’s not even trying to figure it out. Even though others are finishing, he just decided that it doesn’t work and gave up.
Well, if you’re expecting users to read…
Yeah its a tough crowd sometimes. Especially when doing that training with our customers.
I’ll never forget the time I was explainging how something worked and one of the customers interrupts me saying, “I don’t care about this – can you just show me where to click?”
I’ve done my share of training too. Some people just want recipes. They have no interest in knowing why they’re doing something.
Truth is, windows has plenty of such small annoyances just as well, it’s just that everyone is used to the windows way of doing it, so it’s not even worth joking about it.
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When I first started using Linux I was impressed with how easily everything seemed to work. Then over time I started to get annoyed with all the things that I had no idea how to fix without looking up, and thought about going back to Windows.
Then I used windows again and was immediately reminded of all the stupid bullshit I had to constantly fight with and forgot about because that was just the norm when windows is the only OS you ever use.The times I think about switching back, I just think back to the first month on Linux full time when I realized I was no longer constantly pissed off at everything my system was doing I didn’t want it to do or not doing that I did want. And a lot of it wasn’t even conscious anymore, like just realizing that a constant background radiation was just … Not there anymore.
Of course, having to use it at work every day still helps remind me… But I’m working on at least making my workstation into a Linux box, even if the servers are still going to be Windows.
People just don’t want to have fewer annoyances that are solved differently and most often more easily. Change bad.
“It’s a shame anything has to change. The Sun has changed its position in the sky and I don’t trust it one bit.”
- Welcome to Nightvale
I guess if I had to throw some shade at M$, I really hate how garbage the registry has become. Back in the day it was great for very specific solutions and some personalization, but now I have to crawl through hundreds of drop downs on a fresh install just to fix simple things on Microsoft’s own software.
So many times I see junior Devs (or not so juniors) and normies seeing an error message and, visibly, static plays between their ears on their mental TV set, then they just click the first button that looks appropriate and complain it didn’t work.
The text of the message does not get read or parsed.
“You need to close the program to continue”. Doesn’t work.
“Unexpected X at line N” Doesn’t work.
Drives me insane.
Unfortunately, so many error messages are so utterly useless that it has taught many people that all errors are just pointless background noise even if they’re actually giving useful info.
I mean, java and Microsoft errors are preceded by 120 characters of useless trash oftentimes, that is equally as infuriating.
Yeah, proprietary software are the worst offenders.
Or Windows gives you a blue screen and just “BAD_POOL_HEADER”.
I got that intermittently at work on an instrument about every week or two. The best answer I could find was “it could be software or hardware related”. Yeah, thanks for that, problem solved. Wish I had thought of that. Not even a time stamp. Finally found out when it occurred to within 20 minutes and there was jack shit in the logs.
IT ended up calling in a service tech to re-image the computer.
Ah, windows logs, another amazing experience that doesn’t make me want to kill everyone.
tail /var/log/thing.logis far too easy
Of course i know him, he’s me
The skip button, it’s right there, waiting to be clicked!
Is it really clown behavior or is it a 200 iq move?
EDIT: Because he gets the answer to his problem
Debianees will only answer your inquiry, however, if it is worded in a proper polite way. Here is a proper, polite way to ask for tech support.
OMG! DEBIAN IS SO PATHETIC! IT CAN’T ________, BUT WINDOWS CAN _____ JUST BY CLICKING _______!
Rushing to defend their precious Linux, they will give the most descriptive, polite, useful information possible. If you use “normal” manners though, you will most likely get flamed, insulted, and receive at least 10 viruses by email. All of which will be written in “1337”, for no appearent reason. Your IP will be traced, and eventually your Linux OS will be hijacked and destroyed. In some cases your CPU might melt from having to handle so much hacking by insecure “Debianees”.
Oké lets see how good crowd trouble shooting is…
Nobara on Fedora can not have the exact same mouse being plugged in multible times. They seem to merge into one and all but one will be ignored (at random).
Okey, without joking*. I have seen quite some people who are unable to Google anything. But I guess that’s why LMGTFY was made.
[*] this is actually a bug, not a joke. If you happen to know the answer. Please share it, it’s driving me nuts
To be faiiiirrr googling nowadays is a sysiphean exercise in frustration
Follow up question - why do you have multiple mice plugged into your computer?
Trackball mouse for work, regular mouse for gaming. This is peak and you cannot convince me otherwise.
My PC is connected to a TV and I steam to a diffrent room. So there is a mouse at the TV, at the couch, and in another room
I like to point with both hands, and with my feet if I’m in a good mood.
As in 2 of the same model?
Yhea the exact same model, bough at the same time
Now I’m curious. I have two of the same mice but my nobara blew up with the last update and need to reinstall it first. Can’t say I’ve ever tried that for Windows either
Not nobara related but I found a Linux Mint thread about using xinput to adjust config to have left handed mode enabled for 1 mouse but not another. Maybe that will help. If they’re wireless mice with dongles, maybe they’re struggling in that one mouse is connecting to both receivers? If they offer both bt and wifi pairing you might be able to get around it by manipulating that, or if they can be plugged in that might help.
i tried linux once but there was one command that made me not want to use it anymore
What command?
cp
Luckily this is being addressed, and it’s being renamed to “Copy Something And More” (CSAM for short)
Yeah that’s a bad one
What’s wrong with
cp?You’ll get arrested if it’s in your bash history.
Since when was club penguin illegal
It stands for cyberpunk
you can easily avoid it by making your files 400 and then using mv instead
cp
Huh?
In the late 1990s/early 2000s, there was some satire article about how to get most effective Linux support. Just write an angry news/blog article about how Linux sucks because it doesn’t (insert the thing you’re having problems with here). You bet someone will immediately respond how you’re an idiot and you should (insert detailed explanation of how to fix the thing here).
I’m gonna have to endorse this because you’ve already proven that it works.
This is just a variant of the “Ask question, use an alt acc to answer it incorrectly” method of getting help.
Harness the OCD of the internet (https://xkcd.com/386/)
Actually, the best way is to post a question to Reddit.
Linus Sebastian . Is this you?
The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it’s to post the wrong answer.
Perfect demonstration :)
Well played. Glad to assist.
