“We set out to solve one of the most common frustrations we hear — finding and changing settings on your PC — using the power of AI agents,” Navjot Virk, corporate vice president of Windows Experiences at Microsoft, said in a blog post on Tuesday. “An agent uses on-device AI to understand your intent and with your permission, automate and execute tasks.”

  • @[email protected]
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    151 month ago

    This is the TYPICAL AI use case :

    • have situation that’s not perfect, but works fine and is understandable (old control panel and some hidden settings)
    • improve on the old control panel, create subsections that makes sense, make it searchable, everyone is happy
    • someone decides that “control panel” and “old looking UI” have to go, create a cluster-a-doodle-fuck of a garbage mess labeled “Settings”, put only half the old settings in there, and half the time conflicts with other well-established ways to do things
    • keep pushing the new thing despite it being so horrendous a kitten litter dies every time it is used
    • pretend “there is a problem with settings, but we can solve it with AI”
    • ???
    • nothing, whatever, definitely not profit

    It seems that people keep forgetting we just, did stuff. Changing most system settings wasn’t an incomprehensible chore reserved to the most elite of people. And changing the fringe ultra rare and hard to find setting only happened with half-decent competent people. No need to throw AI at that… unless you dismantle everything that works before, of course.

    I swear, it’s not long ago that people were touting that we could finally have decent microtransactions in games thanks to blockchain, despite microtransactions being a very lucrative thing for decades before. And don’t get me started on people saying “but it’s the only way artists can get paid”.

    As a collective, humanity is dumb.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 month ago

      I swear, it’s not long ago that people were touting that we could finally have decent microtransactions in games thanks to blockchain

      Sorry that this is really what caught my attention, but when did anyone ever think this?

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        When NFT started getting popular. Forums were full of idiots saying “now I can really BUY something and HAVE it!” as opposed to, say, game publishers having their server with user accounts on it and their item there. There’s even people that touted “we will be able to bring items from one game to another!”. Pointing the silliness of the idea to them was a lost cause.

        And, since that’s not how any of this works, it crashed and aside from some big publisher being incredibly late to the party, the idea is now buried deep and forgotten.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          There are a small subset of people who legitimately just don’t understand game development fundamentals though, and they actually believe that things would just be fully interchangeable. As in, you buy a skin in Fortnite, and you can then open up Roblox and set it as your player model.

          Those ones are especially not the brightest.

          The people who are like “you can just take your skin from Skyrim and put it in gta5 and it’ll just work!!” people really are baffling. The hubris and ignorance is so much

  • @[email protected]
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    2241 month ago

    Seems like it would have been cheaper, easier, and better pr to just simplify settings or have them in more logical categories, but what would I know.

    • Dave.
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      231 month ago

      It’s much more fun to just half-ass a new control panel with only a few features, and then hide the old, fully-functional control panel.

      Bonus points if you can then begrudgingly finally show the old, useful, control panel when a user clicks 6 layers deep in the new panel.

    • nfh
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      1301 month ago

      If a problem exists, and you try to fix it without AI, do you even stand a chance at getting promoted?

      • @[email protected]
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        461 month ago

        It’s rather apparent that you composed this comment without AI. Guess I’ll have to give that pay raise to myself again…

      • Echo Dot
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        211 month ago

        Of course this is a solved problem and has been a solved problem for at least 15 years now. It’s called a flat wide hierarchy. Rather than trying to put everything into categories you just put everything into alphabetical order and then have a search box. Want to change the background, it’s under B for Background, rather than having to go to Display Settings > Customisation > Desktop Background > Custom Background > Select Image

        • @[email protected]
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          71 month ago

          Windows already does that. If you type Wallpaper in the search on your task bar, changing your background is at the top. Maybe AI is useful for people who don’t know what the thing they want to do is called? It’s just an extension of flat wide.

          • @[email protected]
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            201 month ago

            If you type Wallpaper in the Windows search bar you’ll likely get bing results for ”Top trendy wallpapers to spice up your living room!”

              • @[email protected]
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                71 month ago

                The real problem with the search bar is that Microsoft chose to make it language dependent, so you will need to know entirely different search terms to navigate e.g. a German Windows install’s settings that way than an English one.

          • Echo Dot
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            Well sort of, you’re right that they’ve introduced a search bar but that’s all they’ve done. It’s all still broken down into fairly arbitrarily arrived at categories it’s not in alphabet order, or in fact any real order.

            Sound settings are under peripherals for god’s sake. I mean sure okay speakers are a peripheral I guess but when you say peripheral you think things like webcams, not basic I/O.

  • @[email protected]
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    91 month ago

    Alright, that’s fucking it. Next long weekend I have, I’m figuring out how to install Bazzite.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      Watch a quick YouTube video about Bazzite. The installation is easy.

      I’ve been trying to get some of my games to work on Bazzite… no hope!

      nVidia GPU’s get a 20% decrease in performance. AMD works better.

  • @[email protected]
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    321 month ago

    Couldn’t they have used ai to figure out how to make the settings less obscure instead.

  • @[email protected]
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    41 month ago

    How much would setting the main registry file to read-only break on Windows 11? Someone may be about to attempt the experiment . . .

      • MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown
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        Windows 11 ended support for vertical taskbars and the default setting is along the bottom with the tasks centered. You can change the “taskbar alignment” setting to “left” but that just aligns the tasks to the left side of the bar. There apparently was a registry hack that allowed you to move the taskbar, but that got patched out by the time my work updated my workstation

  • Lit
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    41 month ago

    just a simple search feature works.

  • @[email protected]
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    21 month ago

    google has a spying app(you will have to delete occasionally) on any android phones if your using google in any manner.

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    Option 1: Admit your UI choices (made mostly to accommodate an all tablet PC future that never arrived) are terrible and redesign the Windows settings screens to display all new and old settings that still work, with search functions.

    Option 2: Spend tens of billions training an AI to find those settings and change them.

    Well done, Microsoft. I knew you’d make the right choice.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      Tell me this Ai is in-box and not external like all the others.

      If not, there’s gonna be a shed load of upset boomers who killed their net and can’t get it back.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 month ago

      I agree option 1 is the correct choice, though it does appear they are slowly going that direction… very slowly.

      But they definitely didn’t spend millions, nevermind billions, on shoehorning this one extra feature into their existing AI models.

      • @[email protected]
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        61 month ago

        I agree option 1 is the correct choice, though it does appear they are slowly going that direction…

        Really? Because every new Windows version is even worse than the one before it. There are now 3? 4? different places to change network settings, but only one of them actually works correctly, if you modify the wrong one it will act like it worked but will silently break all networking on the machine instead.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          They’ve moved away from touch centric controls, and are “slowly” moving things into the modern settings. I never claimed their shit was clean, just moving in what seems to be the right direction, for the most part.

  • @[email protected]
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    531 month ago

    The biggest frustration is not me changing settings.

    The biggest frustration is windows changing back those settings whenever it feels like it.

    This is just doubling down on the “greatest frustration”

    • @[email protected]
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      51 month ago

      Well tbf, they did keep moving them on me and hiding them from me.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if they moved them again…behind an AI wall that can interact with them but you can’t without using that AI. Also they’ll continue to reset them whenever they feel like it, if they even successfully get changed by the AI, if the AI doesn’t say “I can’t let you do that Dave” when you try and disable telemetry.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        Or maybe the AI just lies and says it changed the setting and then doesn’t. There’s a ‘delete my data’ button on reddit profiles that is literally a fake button, it wouldn’t even be a new tactic.

  • @[email protected]
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    131 month ago

    Microsoft would absolutely love it if people had zero computer literacy and had to ask an AI for help to perform even the most rudimentary of tasks.

    Because then the AI becomes indispensable.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 month ago

      And available for only $9.99/month! Part of the Copilot Suite of tools coming 2027!

      Never learn about computers ever again!

  • @[email protected]
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    351 month ago

    Ah Christ. We’ve collectively regressed so much in computer knowledge that people can’t even find a settings menu? Even I have trouble believing that one.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      I unironically had a friend who hated Linux Mint for awhile because he believed for YEARS you always double click applications in the task bar like you would on your desktop. When he switched he was so furious how apps would crash and/or just not start until I told him “dude… just click it once”

      I have no idea how this didn’t happen on Windows or how he never had something open up twice

    • Aeri
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      31 month ago

      Well, there’s the small issue of Windows now having control panel the settings app and some shitty third thing sprinkled in there somewhere. There are some things that should have settings but don’t. You can no longer simply disable Windows update on your own, because Microsoft has decided they know best.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      You know that windows 10 still has the original control panel hidden deep in there.

      Why do that

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      The last time finding settings in Windows was straight forward was Windows 95. Since the stupid dumbed down ‘settings’ app was vomited upon us, it has been nearly impossible to find the thing you know is there but has now been renamed and moved, and isn’t even indexed in the settings app search bar.

      • @[email protected]
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        61 month ago

        Just to be the devil’s advocate here: There are way more settings now than back then. That interface wouldn’t cut it either.

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        The registry never has and never will be simple nor usable. Windows is rotten to the core.

          • @[email protected]
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            No, I’m a happy i3wm user.

            Because I’ve tried to get GNOME to do what I wanted. (Also it was too slow on the machines I was using at the time).

            And that’s besides the point: on linux you can just use a good DE without messing with much – KDE, cinnamon, etc…

          • @[email protected]
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            51 month ago

            The reasoning I moved from Windows to Linux was this right here.

            If I’m going to be fighting with Windows anyway, because of the registry giving me issues, then the drawback of “but Linux hard! You have to configure things!” was moot.

    • Oniononon
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      121 month ago

      kinda fair considering windows has like 20 control panels that should all do the same thing but at the end of the day you still need to use regedit.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      The problem that i cant find the setting, or it’s in a different app or intentionally cant be changed easily. I want to limit my battery to charge only when below 30%; but i cant do that in battery or power settings. I want to disable some “feature” where windows randomly adds a new keybord layout to windows, but this is not a setting but seems to be a bug. I want to completely disable usb- or lan-wakeup, but despite changing settings in the device manager my desktop is sometimes turned on in the morning after i set it to hibernate the night before. I dont want one-drive or cloud, but this is also not a setting but a design decision by the MS marketing department to make money with their half-baked cloud solutions.