Republicans are drunk with power. What a stupid fucking idea. There’s no chance of banning porn. Then they wouldn’t be able to jerk to Trans women and feel shame after.
Trans women are hot, in case that reads as though the shame is correct. It’s not.
They don’t intend to ban anything. They’re just creating reasons to lock people up.
They are, to a man, insane authoritarian shitbags. All they care about is control.
The plan according to project 2025 is to classify trans people existing as pornographic. Wish I was joking. Been warning people about this for a year now.
Anything related to queer identities could fall under obscenity by whatever arbitrary definitions they want to use.
No more pride or rainbow flags, no support groups for queer youth, no sex education, all of that is obscene.
Basically everything they have to say on the subject is thinley veiled homophobia and should be treated as such
so just like Russia
Yup, it’s the typical conservative playbook: If you don’t like something, redefine it as something unpopular. Then target the unpopular thing, so democrats can’t oppose it without inciting “this democrat voted against a bill to protect/stop {sympathetic demographic} from {unpopular thing}” smear campaigns.
Step 1 was equating trans people with sexual predators. You keep that messaging consistent and constant. Find stories of trans people doing normal things, but spin it as if they’re dangerous. Invent stories if you need to, because debunking them takes a lot more time than inventing them…
They weren’t jogging in a neighborhood; they were casing the neighborhood. They weren’t using a public restroom; they were looking for people to sexually assault. They weren’t trying on clothes to see if they fit; they were looking to assault women and children in the changing rooms. They weren’t volunteering for the local women’s shelter; They were looking for defenseless victims. They weren’t writing a book for other trans people; They were indoctrinating kids and trying to turn them trans. Et cetera, et cetera…
Once conservative voters have started to accept that messaging, you move onto step 2:
“This bill will protect children from sexual predators” means it bans trans people from being able to pee.
“This bill will protect children from being exposed to dangerous sexual material” means it bans any kind of trans iconography by labeling it as porn.
“This bill will stop sexual predators from hiding in your neighborhood” means it requires trans people to register in a public database/wear a {pink triangle} badge.
“This bill will ensure sexual predators are kept away from the rest of the population” means it rounds trans people up into camps.And if anybody ever tries to point out what the bill is really doing, put them on blast with the “radical left is trying to let sexual predators steal your kids and assault your women” messaging.
Sure would be nice if the not-as-conservatives could use their own tactics to flip the script on them.
I disagree that it’s conservative. It’s nazi/ authoritarian/radical. For 50 odd years afer ww2 the cons knew this was a daft tactic. Prior to that (well prior to 1790 ish ) con/feudal/landowners managed their serfs and peasants, they didn’t want infighting. (outfighting, thats a different , maybe lucrative albeit lottery).
Cons are just common or garden cunts. populists are serious, they can mobilise labour .
The traditional cons wil ride the wave because they have no choice and no friends. until they realise they’ll be expropriated eventually, which the nazis won’t do until after they have critical mass. Fucking con Niemollers
In the 50 odd years after WW2, we saw them frame civil rights as communism and use the war on drugs to bomb and destroy black neighborhoods.
This is conservatism.
The original documents for project 2025 were released in 2017 well leaked in 2017. And it was talked about for about the day and disappeared and here we are.
It really made the rounds again in 2020, even to the point of breaking into the mainstream. Probably a lot more people are aware of it than you might think, it’s just the doing something about it that we’re all sticking on.
In 2020 we didn’t have to do anything about it. It was just another set of online nutcases, no one who could get elected would actually try that.
2025: hold my beer
I meant to say 2024, during the election. The past few years have been a blur to me.
Exactly. It’s well known now.
It’s unfortunately not. Go ask your (general) parents or grandparents what it is and what it means. Ask them if they think it’s happening right now and to what extent.
I bet their answers will be surprising to a lot of people.
Project 2025 has been happening in Oklahoma since 2017. No one gave a shit when it was the asshole of the country, but shit spreads.
Y’all get to enjoy the suffering I’ve been enjoying for the past ten years.
Oh boy, I can’t wait to find out if Oklahoma is a shining utopia, a guiding beacon of the future for the rest of the country.
I’ve got some bad news.
The text that became Project 2025 has been published every four years or so since the Regan administration.
For-profit prison system goes, “Brrrrrrrrrr!!”
That is the pragmatic and short term outcome, but I would not discount the level of power hard-line Christian nationalists have over the far right. Many of them believe “moral degeneracy” like porn is the most grave problem of western society and would be glad to “correct” it given the chance.
Please don’t drag the insane down to this level. This is planned and intentional (even if there is factional opposition)
To be fair, Control is a pretty great game
It is.
We need more media to take advantage of the SCP Foundation. Movies, games, etc. Give the authors credit. Pay them. Because there’s a whole lot of great stuff there.
SCP-001 “When Day Breaks” would make an incredible horror movie.
Oh definitely, 100%
Check this guy’s computer first. Guarantee there’s some fucked up shit on there. It’s always projection.
Mike Lee is a full-blown Mormon, which heavily frowns upon porn in any form (including literal prophetic teachings calling women “walking pornography”), so he absolutely does have porn on his devices.
Source: grew up Mormon, was taught this by leadership
And their definition of “porn” is so broad, it’s bordering on ridiculous.
Dude… Their doctrine is all over the place haha. Like, everyone knew that the garments were all about “modestly”, and yet with the recent release of tank-top style women’s garment tops, they’re all claiming that “it was never about modesty teehee”. Fucking gaslighting bullshit. Same with rated R movies. Some leader somewhere stated that members shouldn’t watch rated R movies, and somehow everyone took it as literal gospel, despite it not being written anywhere.
I’m so fucking glad I’m out of that goddamn cult.
You see the porn he’s got probably illegal already
The American porn industry is as big as Hollywood. This is a big billions of dollars market. And the US porn industry provides 90% of international porn. So Trump and his GOP wants to kill the one last American industry where the US is world market leader by far.
And I can easily see this industry moving to countries where actors are cheaper and less protected from abuse, diseases, and whatever else happening in this industry.
While this will make some religious fundamentalists in the US feel superior and give them a sense of a perceived moral high ground, it will actually hurt the most vulnerable people in the chain the most. It will not reduce the amount of porn made, it will just make it much, much worse for those involved.
It’s part of the plan in Project 2025, to ban pornography and then classify LGBT literature as pornography
The plan is to classify trans people as being pornographic by their very existence.
I read somewhere that Texas is trying (as in someone in the legislature) to make transgender people legally non-existent. Apparently the same shit I read is being attempted in the UK.
Logically, that means they wont have to pay taxes and can’t be charged with murder. But we know the law wouldn’t be applied logically.
yes, the TX law is to declare trans people as committing the crime of “gender identity fraud”
That wasn’t what I read. The specific words were “legally non-existent” as in they don’t exist. It could be gender fraud is what was implied but not how it was explained.
ah, yes - that one basically doesn’t allow the state to recognize anything but assigned sex at birth (or some other reality-denying fabricated definition of “biological sex”), thereby eliminating trans identity - this is a form of genocide, called social death. Other states already have passed laws like this:
Looks like the bill passed the house in TX (waiting to see what the Senate votes):
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/05/10/texas-house-trans-bills-advance/
Yikes! I didn’t realize it would be considered genocide.
it’s still debated whether the anti-trans movement in the US has genocide as a goal, but I think it’s a fair characterization since the movement has explicitly stated their goal is “the eradication of [trans people] from public life”:
since the goal is total elimination, it makes it a candidate for genocide more than other kinds of oppression, e.g. the enslavement and oppression of Africans in the US (another case some have argued as being a genocide).
the Lemkin Institute is one of the organizations arguing the anti-trans movement is genocidal:
either way, methods like legally removing a concept of a group is a method of genocide used in the past, which is why I bring it up.
in particular it’s an example of social death:
Yuppers.
Already 2025 creators starting to populate upper us government.
https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/creator-controversial-project-2025-creator-35213359
Friendly reminder that only one party takes rights away.
And that’s the party that got all the stupid fucks in our society to think they were the party of freedom.
And all the “Dems aren’t fixing it fast enough!” voters thinking it’ll be good for some reason.
That’s because they’re children who want exactly what they want, immediately, or fuck it all and let it burn.
Look, reflexively saying “both sides aren’t the same” is ignorant and actively doing harm when you use it to broadly. Are both parties the same? No. But on many issues, both parties are the same. And this is one of those issues. What you are saying is demonstrably, patently false.
The South Carolina bill passed with near-universal bipartisan support.
Same thing with the Texas bill.
On this issue, both sides are just as bad. Democrats are just as bad as Republicans.
The problem Democrats have is that they don’t actually believe in anything. They follow polls and consultants, and they lack any backbone. They have no fight in them.
Look at trans rights. Democrats have completely ceded the issue to Republicans. Trans people make the walking corpses that are the Democratic leadership feel icky, so they offer only symbolic support to the trans community. Kamala, in the face of tens of millions of dollars of right wing demonization of trans people, couldn’t even offer the most basic defense of trans rights and the worth of trans lives. All she could say was, “I’ll follow the law.”
It’s really, really easy to make Democrats completely cave on the rights of any group. All you have to do is make the case to the public that it’s for the good of children. Want to ban porn? Bill it as for the kids, and the Dems will be too chicken shit to say a word against it. Want to send trans people to gas chambers? Say it’s for the kids, and Dems will vote for it. Demonize immigrants? The Democrats will try to outflank you on the right, competing with Republicans to see who can be crueler to immigrants and asylum seekers. Name the bill after a white woman that happened to be killed by an illegal immigrant, make defending it require effort, and Democrats will be falling over themselves to vote to send migrants to death camps.
Are the two parties the same? No. But on many issues, they are virtually identical. As long as you can make a flimsy case that some stripping of rights is for the good of the children, Democrats will ALWAYS be too cowardly to stand up against the propaganda. It’s been this way since at least Tipper Gore in the 90s.
I got to the part where you tried to equate Democrats not doing enough to help trans people with Republicans actively persecuting them and then I stopped reading because I realized I was reading straight up bullshit.
Democrats have removed ZERO rights. Republicans have and are actively trying to remove more. And one quick glance at both party’s voting history, you know, the thing that actually causes legislation to be enacted, very clearly paints the parties in TOTALLY different lights.
Regulations are put in place to make sure some people aren’t allowed to hurt other people. Some would argue that this takes away their rights.
Regulations are put in place to make sure some people aren’t allowed to hurt other people
I’d also extend that definition to “other life” too. Some MAGA may say: “The libruls want to take a way my rights to do what I want with my land!” When in fact it may be an endangered species has its last nesting ground on that land.
No one has the rights to harm another. Your argument is ridiculous.
It’s not their argument, they are just reporting. Chill out.
That’s just “people are saying”. It’s either a straw man, or a belief. If not both.
So you think we shouldn’t have regulations?
The opposite. I heartily disagree that regulations protecting some people from harm are at the detriment of others.
Do you believe that if regulations are put in place, some people will be upset that they aren’t allowed to continue their bad behavior and claim that their rights has been violated?
What kind of regulations?
You’re baiting people without providing examples. Which I’m sure you’re aware of.
Any singular regulation will do. If any come to mind, then you can list any you think should be out in place.
Do you mean idealistically (a belief), or reality in practice? Because many groups have been given the legal right to harm others, e.g. military, police, certain sports players and businesses, so in practice, many people have the right to harm another and it’s terrible.
If you mean idealistically, well, that’s a nice idea but it means nothing until we collectively build the power to enforce it. The bourgeoisie crying about regulation taking away their freedom to put lead in our food tend to be the people with the money and power to perform regulatory capture.
To clearly state the obvious: it does take away their liberty and that’s a good thing. Economic liberalism is a tragedy.
Can you provide examples? Or just here to make generalizations?
Yeah, the freedom to oppress others, just like the founding fathers did!
Oh wow, I hope they do it. Nothing is going to upset the MAGA crowd faster than losing access to the trans pornography they view in the privacy of their own homes while condemning publicly. I’d imagine a lot of them are not going to understand VPN.
Remember that the far right has been desperately trying to label any LGBTQ-related content as ‘porn’. Educational resources? ‘Porn’. Biographies about gay people? ‘Porn’. Drag queens? ‘Porn’. A book about a boy with two mommies? ‘Porn’. Anything that acknowledges the existence of trans people? ‘Porn’.
The purpose of this bill isn’t to ban porn, it’s to ban ‘porn’. Anything they don’t like will be deemed ‘porn’, and then this gives them the legal justification to ban whatever they want.
Cancel culture at its finest. Where my free speech absolutists gone?!
They were just bigots?
🔫 Always have been
If you think the porn industry is exploitative and abusive now, just wait until they push it all underground.
Under the bill, content would be considered obscene if it appeals to prurient interests in nudity
And since they’ve already taken away due process, they’re basically paving the way to send anyone who has a body they don’t like to a death camp. I don’t think it’s hyperbole anymore to say that that US is fucked.
Sending people to El Salvador is much easier when you make everyone a criminal.
So we gonna have people in the corner selling uncensored like in japan?
Land Of The Free ™
“Obscenity isn’t protected by the First Amendment, but hazy and unenforceable legal definitions have allowed extreme pornography to saturate American society and reach countless children,” Lee said in a press release. “Our bill updates the legal definition of obscenity for the internet age so this content can be taken down and its peddlers prosecuted.”
My memory is a bit hazy, but I think this phrasing is taken almost verbatim from Project 2025.
They are jumping the gun a little here. Project 2025 has declaring basically anything a transperson does as pornographic first then this. Guess some incompetence in execution shouldn’t be surprising from their crowd.
I think the order of operations is almost unimportant if their opposition can only secure minor, temporary victories and nobody is truly stopping them. If anything the broad stroke of this bill could be used as cover while states quietly criminalize homosexuality and transgenderism by fiat.
Obscenity isn’t protected by the First Amendment
Is this the same Constitution that they’re pissing on with everything else? It most certainly does protect it. Do NOT use the “think of the children” shit when your actions towards children safety has been the complete opposite. Hell, I saw news today of further cuts being pursued for Medicare, as well as past things on cutting school lunches and of course the destruction of the DoE. You do NOT care about children, do not bring them into this.
Actually they’ve been trying to invoke the Comstock Act constantly to force ISPs to block porn sites. This particular rallying cry is something I remember since the late Bush II years.
Will no one think of the children? Whenever these people say something, the best strategy is look in the opposite direction they are pointing you. In this instance, they are working to pass child-bride full-legalization. They’re definitely thinking of the children.
Don’t forget Florida trying to weaken child labor laws. MAGA. If the mine was good enough for great grandpa, it’s good enough for you.
When you use AI to write your bills and tell it to implement Project 2025.
Guns fall into children’s hands all the time, something that literally kills, and they don’t seem to give a shit about that
