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Replace the pink car with a bicycle an A is suddenly not being in the mood to yield anymore.
I was going straight once and had to go back in and do a full turn (180° + 360°) because of that.
I’m a daily cyclist and I think I’d be terrified to bike through a full roundabout. They’re absolutely marvelous designs for throughput that doesn’t require complex signal automation, but the flip side of that is they’re pretty hostile if you’re not a motor vehicle. Any truly good roundabout design should include pedestrian and cycle paths along the periphery that have priority when crossing the circles entrances.
On the other hand, I am not expecting a cycle path for me when I am going around the normal road speed. Just if people start understanding the cycles are also traffic and not something to be plo’d over.
But that’s not the thing either. It feels like people are just playing a game of ‘chcken’ all over the place.
All cars will yield to a bicycle in the UK, because less protected members of the road traffic always take priority.
Welp, I’m not in the UK.
Over here, people go with - what is the most threatening to themselves - and it really feels weird that people who have presumably passed the driving exam are worse at roundabouts than me.All cars should yield.
When I used to cycle, I’d just go on the pavements at large roundabouts. Not much point in being right but dead.
I personally never had any issues. British drivers are very polite and cautious.
Alternative scenario: C starts entering, A decides to FUCKING FLOOR IT, slams into C
Wait until you see the magic roundabout in the UK. It’s a “close your eyes, pray and hit the gas” type of place.
I drove through that one, not easy. I prefer the turbine design we use in Germany.
Left side driving should be illegal
It is in the most places on earth.
Good.
Holy hell
No one will ever be able to invade the UK, they’ll get stuck in this horror.
People will unironically see this and proclaim that it’s actually not that complicated…
It’s really five regular roundabouts circling one central roundabout.
Then you see the cars completely ignoring the sub-circles and driving over them or backwards to the arrows.
That roundabout needs a speaker constantly playing Entry of the Gladiators on repeat
I’ve seen this so often before and I still don’t understand why they didn’t just build an ordinary roundabout. It’s just six roads that meet there. That’s not beyond ordinary roundabout capabilities. Who said “you know what, let’s just do a circular arrangement of five roundabouts here, that’s so much better than what people are used to”?
My money is on “the french love roundabouts so we’re not doing that”
I love how the meme assumes everyone trusts everyone else’s driving. Utopian ideals, man.
My mom taught me to never trust a turn signal (or lack of one)
That’s not how roundabouts work. They’re really simple:
- Look left and enter when clear
- Look straight until you exit
That’s it. This only gets complicated if traffic is backed up, in which case everyone is going slow enough for it to not matter.
Nice, I don’t know why, but I was picturing the pink car going fast enough to squeal their tires like they used to in the one nearest where I live. We only got roundabouts here a decade or two ago, so they’re still a novelty to most. I don’t drive much, as you can probably tell.
Yeah, speeds in a roundabout should be very slow, like 15mph/20-25kph. Bigger ones can handle a bit faster traffic, but they’re not designed for high speed, but lack of stopping.
And I envy you, I wish I didn’t need to drive as much.
You not following the rules because you assume everyone else isn’t following the rules is why no one is following the rules…
I don’t follow the rules only because I don’t drive at all. Otherwise, yes, you are correct, I don’t follow rules which endanger my life. Just weird that way.
Well you usually find out the rules when you learn to drive. Roundabouts are spooky at first but once you have the rules down it’s actually one of the easier things.
You’re all driving around it in the wrong direction.
But they are on the right side.
No, that’s the wrong side
Woosh~
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No, they are on the right side.
Whose on first?
Ive had the ‘pink’ car stop in the roundabout and motion, me as the ‘A’ car, to go. Like i dont even anymore.
Just give the one finger salute.
There are specific times when this might be appropriate. For example if I am turning off at the exit after where the car is joining from, I can see they’re indicating to making a move around the inner part of the roundabout which is clear, and if I proceeded I would join a queue for my exit and block them. I’ll usually stop short and gesture they move in.
But otherwise it’s usually safer all round to stick to the rules.
I’ve never seen a roundabout with a queue
Really? I see them when travelling to London all the time. I used to live in London too. A very common occurrence and if you want to keep traffic moving, allowing people that can proceed to do so, just makes sense to me.
I get in and out of those roundabouts as fast as possible
I don’t mind the design, I think they’re great and save time and reduce traffic congestion
I just don’t trust drivers of this generation to use them properly. We are currently in a transition period of generations … an older generation of drivers that didn’t grow up with these and a newer group who will think these roundabouts will be normal. As long as these old timers (including me) are around, these traffic situations will be dangerous.
Which is why, when I get to these roundabouts, I get in as quickly as possible and get out as quickly as I can
I mean, nothing here is wrong but I have rarely had C being my primary issue when dealing with roundabouts. Idiots randomly entering the circle with no regard to other cars, THAT I’ve encountered quite frequently…
Biggest problem I encounter is people failing to signal their exit
So I end up being C because I yield to a bunch of bozos who didn’t communicate they were’t going to come my way
Well we can kinda only go when the signal is accompanied by another indication like slowing and or beginning to turn - “never trust a signal” eh?
Ah yes, car E driven by Leeeerrroooooyyyy Jenkins
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To the moooooooooooon
Watching the shadow of the car, it takes out the top of a tree
Hit them
The only real problem I regularly encounter is on two lane roundabouts.
If you want to take the first exit you need to enter in the passenger side lane.
If you want to take any exit after the second you need to enter in the driver’s side lane.
If you enter in the passenger side lane, you must take the first or second exit. Taking any exit after the second from the “outside” lane is gonna cause an accident.
I see this happen a few times a year. It’s so common that most drivers foresee it.
Yeah the solution there is spiral roundabouts with hard barriers at critical points.
That’s because Americans don’t know how to use them, once you live in a place where people use them OPs picture becomes your issue and you never see yours.
I think that’s location specific, I’ve lived in a few different places in the US that had roundabouts, although I’ve always called em rotaries in the northeast.
Yeah same here. Only know roundabout because that’s how the GPS says it lol
Americans have a hard time driving, period. They can’t “keep right unless passing”, they can’t understand 4-way stops, they can’t understand traffic circles, and so much more. So frustrating and dangerous here.
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It’s completely F’d up. In the region I live in there are a lot of 3-lane highways (6 lanes total). People “cruise” in the #2 lane and treat it like the slow lane which forces faster traffic left and right around them in the #1 and #3 lanes sometimes going 5 under the limit, often confounded by a #1 lane camper going the speed limit or just a few over. Nobody obeys any sort of rule or has a clue they aren’t being the asshole. They refuse to keep right or yield to faster traffic.
I was just thinking yesterday that if Trump actually wanted to do good he could convert all these people he’s hiring for ICE into some kind of traffic enforcement agency and send all the dumbasses that can’t drive properly to el salvador. This thought happened while I was stuck in a drive through that some moron had blocked the exit of by pulling up too far.
I know that „there must be a German word for that“ is became a meme, with lot of fake words being thrown around, but I’m not even joking: There’s a German word for that lol ✨Mittelspurschleicher✨
1 lane each way highways solve this issue by preventing there being a passing lane except on straight aways when there is no oncoming traffic.
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Many dont understand four way stop signs either
My city (US) used to have one that was signed all wrong, so cars already inside the circle would have to yield to the ones entering. Naturally this led to congestion instead of flowing traffic. Also it was way too close to a tangential road so that made things even worse because the backed up traffic on that side then affected cars that weren’t even going to the circle.
Fortunately they ripped that shit out and redesigned the entire intersection.
Or badly designed ones with a combo of yield and stop signs that effectively prevent the people with the stop sign from ever proceeding
Ok, now do one where C and A arrive at the same time to an empty roundabout and A still, to this day, thinks they have the right of way. Because why wait a fraction of a second when I can make others wait for a lot longer?
I hate having classes in a classroom with windows pointing to a roundabout because I get to realize how NO ONE seems to do them correctly… (In Spain, for reference)
A does have the right of way over C. And the OP has a quite violent interpretation of transit rules that only make sense if it’s a large roundabout with a low speed.
Also, the pink car has the right of way over both. Both are quite right at stopping there, and D is invited to keep stressing themselves to death.
Now, if the pink car decided to stop and wait for A, then it maybe is worth pointing it to them.
I got my driver’s license pretty recently and in driving classes I was always told to look at the left first to see if anyone is inside the roundabout, and then to the right to see if I have to let someone go before me (on small roundabouts). Think it from a logical standpoint: A wouldn’t even need to completely stop to let C in first, while, if A goes first, C needs to stop and wait while A passes in front of them.
It may be a new rule, because no one seems to know about it (or pay it any mind).
Really? I thought you never look to the right in a roundabout. You look to the left, and if it’s clear, you enter and look forward until you exit. That said, I’ve never been to a small enough roundabout that there could be a conflict just after entering.
The OP’s idea here is that since A is stopped, C has plenty of time to enter the roudabout. That’s reasonable if the roudabout is large, and crazy if it’s not.
Your idea that C can enter anyway, even if A didn’t stop is just crazy.
Why? A and C should be able to enter simultaneously. There’s no reason for A to stop.
Depends on the size of the roundabout. For one big enough they could both join simultaneously and maintain a safe distance, that’s fine. If not, if you drive on the left the one on the right has priority and vice versa for the rest of the world.
In fact it’s only a problem if people arrive simultaneously at all junctions, since now there’s no person to the right of everyone.
In this case usually everyone stops (unless one of the cars is a BMW or audi) and then someone will start to move first. After which normal operational rules are restored.
if you drive on the left the one on the right has priority and vice versa for the rest of the world
Isn’t that backwards? US we drive on the right and if 2 people arrive at a stop at the same time you yield to your right, the rules would extrapolate out to the same at a roundabout time, googling and looking at the CA handbook produced squat so the rules might be “fuck it” here, actually
Nope. People are on a roundabout and in the UK you will be going clockwise. So traffic on the roundabout is coming from your right.
I’ve driven in Italy/Germany and it is the opposite. People are going anti clockwise so you have to give way to your left.
The principle is retained on mini roundabouts where you give way to people on the entrance/exit to your immediate right (or of course traffic already on the roundabout) even though those work most similar to 3/4 way stops.
Stop signs don’t need to follow logic of traffic movement direction so you I suppose give priority to the right because being on the right side of the road they are easier to see? I’m not sure where those rules were formulated though.
Car D is going to have to wait for car A no matter what
Assuming no cars come after yellow car, it doesn’t matter if car C goes or not.
Honestly it’s nicer because car D doesn’t have to move up a car length to yield.
Yes they could get screwed very hard though
Well couple of things.
You don’t know how long C has been incorrectly yielding. There may well have been enough time for them both to move onward.
Also there’s nothing to say that A isn’t a yet undiscovered C.
I’m from the UK so roundabouts are second nature. I’ve been an accidental C before. Where I had to wait for a lot of cars that had priority over me. When it finally was open for me I was zoned out. Luckily the car behind me was very polite and just used a short beep of the horn to bring me back to reality.
D could take the first exit while signalling
F. The more fundamental problem is that these are all cars, not bikes. Fuck cars.
I’m waiting til it becomes normal for individuals to use old school buses as their commuter vehicles. It’s the inevitable destination of the car size war.
It makes sense because that would also help alleviate the housing crisis.
Well yes, but actually bikes wouldn’t even need a roundabout with rules like this in the first place.
Right, that’s the funny thing about roundabouts. They’re a marvelous solution to local motor vehicle throughput. That become completely unnecessary if your traffic is anything besides motor vehicles. In fact, for bikes and pedestrians and anyone else who can look at each other eye to eye and even just talk to one another if need be, no signals or signs are necessary at all.
They become more necessary in a bike-centric world… as velodromes.
AmeriKan drivers and traffic circles equates to an inefficient cluster fuck. When departing the circle, use your damn turn signal so I can enter!!!
I’m always the pink car but get cut off by car A who decides to gun it soon as I’m right where pink car is
Those small green pissing pyramids are blocking the road.
I remember almost hitting a cop in a roundabout somewhere in my city because they didn’t follow the rules. It’s a double-wide roundabout, where the outer ring must make the first right they come to and only the inner ring can continue forward or make a right. I needed to make a right from the inner lane, the cop was in the outer lane and DIDN’T TAKE THE EXIT, and I almost turned into the asshole, expecting him to turn like he was supposed to.
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US. Which is probably the number 1 reason for this bonehead move; roundabouts are like unicorns here. Not only that, but they often are done in ways that are extremely stupid and often vary from one town to another so that there is no consistency in the rules. They would be the smoothest, fastest form of an intersection if they were consistent and encountered enough that people learned how to properly utilize them.
ACAB
All Circles Are Beyond-my-ability-to-comprehend - the cop probably
