Denuvo strikes again!

  • @[email protected]
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    302 days ago

    Honestly, Denuvo makes me want to sail the high seas. When I browse Steam and see Denuvo, I mentally write off the game, saying “Might buy this in a couple of years if they fix this shit.” If the company fails to do so, the game becomes valid to pirate, far as I am personally concerned.

    I am not paying money to be rootkitted.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 day ago

      Right? In the past we got software for free when we let companies use our data. Now they want to take our money too.

    • Dr. Moose
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      11 day ago

      Yeah I don’t remember the last time I pirated a game but Denuvo just gives me an ice and id rather not.

    • @[email protected]
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      “Might buy this in a couple of years if they fix this shit.”

      Why wait? Pirate today.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 day ago

        Because Denuvo games take a long time to crack, and only a few people can do it reliably? There are games released as far back as 2018 that still haven’t been cracked.

    • @[email protected]
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      142 days ago

      Sometimes i pirate games I’ve bought so I don’t have to deal with this nonsense. Like titanfall.

  • @[email protected]
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    92 days ago

    Steam deck is a thing now.

    Whine at the developer and Valve. They will whine at Denuvo. Chances are it’s something Denuvo haven’t checked for and can fix quite easily.

    Especially on a “Steam Deck Verified” game.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 day ago

      I actually doubt it’s an easy fix. The issue is that each version of proton looks like a different machine. So when Denuvo only allows you to boot on [x] machines in [y] days, it’s easy to get locked out of a game simply because it looks like you booted it on a bunch of different machines.

      Some of the game streaming services have this same issue. Nvidia has that thing where you can boot it on Nvidia’s servers, then stream it. But the issue is that when you boot it, you don’t get the same server each time. So if you’re playing a game that is prone to crashing, you can easily eat through your [x] machines count quickly. Not because you were playing it on different machines, but because it was booted on a different server each time you launched it.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 day ago

        I would have thought it would be a client side patch rather than server side, but surely it’s a case of taking whatever Proton is changing out of the machine “fingerprint” when generating it on a Steam Deck. There’s plenty of other things they can use to identify a machine.

  • _cryptagion [he/him]
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    512 days ago

    This problem is solved by not giving money to devs who use denuvo. If you gotta resort to malware to sell your game, it’s not worth playing.

  • @[email protected]
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    32 days ago

    What’s the fix, presumably it must sure that data somewhere, or is it an online DRM? No interest in buying the game as they fuck over the UK on pricing, it’s so expensive here, more than Australia too.

  • @[email protected]
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    52 days ago

    Happened to me with Persona 4 a couple years ago. Got locked out of the game for 24 hours because I was trying to make FMVs work.

    • @[email protected]
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      172 days ago

      Heads up, Steam has stopped refunding even broken games if it passes the two hour mark (even if it’s from sitting there on your system process locked).

      • kadup
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        132 days ago

        Illegal where I live, probably why they give me warnings about that but always end up approving the refund

          • kadup
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            52 days ago

            Any online purchase can be refunded within 7 days, no matter the reason. I don’t even need a reason other than “didn’t like it” or “actually I’d rather use the money to buy some chocolate”

        • Count Regal Inkwell
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          22 days ago

          The rumour going around, back then, was that Denuvo went under the table and paid crackers who had the ability to break their DRM to like – Stop doing that. And that this was the reason EMPRESS (actually insane woman) was the only person left who could crack it.

          Of course, there is no way to prove that.

        • @[email protected]
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          I think it is mostly due to it being difficult to hack and those with the skill are well employed and don’t want to risk legal action or spend the time to crack games.

      • @[email protected]
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        82 days ago

        Is anything worth cracking? GTA 6 will be. But what has come out recently is worth the effort?

        • @[email protected]
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          22 days ago

          Yea I would think anyone who has a workaround is keeping it quiet, otherwise it’ll get fixed before then. Then it would be harder to break it for gta.

      • kbal
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        572 days ago

        In that case, request a refund and just forget about the game. It’s that little bit worse for the publisher who chose Denuvo.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 days ago

          Doubt it.

          Now that it’s much harder to crack they’ll sell more. So many thiefs out there with plenty of money to burn who choose not to because they can get away with it.

  • @[email protected]
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    852 days ago

    Just ignore all games that have Denuvo. It’s actually working I don’t see much good games with denuvo lately.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 days ago

      Basically the only games I want to play that have Denuvo currently are a handful of games published by ATLUS like Persona 5 the Royal and Metaphor: Refantazio.

      I actually bought Metaphor, not realizing it had Denuvo, and then was just randomly unable to launch the game. After fiddling with some proton settings and reopening the game I got a very generic error message with a link to a website that told me I was locked out of the game for 24 hours.

      I wound up returning the game.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 days ago

      If i’m ever desperate, I just install the cracks and buy the game on steam sale years down the line after denuvo gets removed anyway.

    • kadup
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      312 days ago

      It’s s actually working

      You should keep following your principles, but that’s not the reason it’s working. The amount of gamers that even know about Denuvo is tiny, and those who care enough to not buy a game because of that is an even smaller fraction of that small number.

      The reason is simply because Denuvo is expensive and a recurring cost. Once a developer removes it, they no longer need to pay for it.

      • @[email protected]
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        112 days ago

        I don’t think that’s true about denuvo specifically. I’ve known some pretty big “normies” for lack of a better term that knoe denuvo makes games run worse.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 days ago

      As far as I can tell, Doom the Dark Ages has it, and many reviews are quite good. I don’t know if they’re good enough to convince me to install it though. Maybe I’ll wait until they remove it months or years later.

  • Jakob Fel
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    102 days ago

    I genuinely wish nothing but the worst for Denuvo. Scum of the earth. DRM sucks, I do my best to avoid games with Denuvo.

  • @[email protected]
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    92 days ago

    This sounds like a challenge almost. Why is this behaviour not flooding their support and legal team?

  • @[email protected]
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    52 days ago

    Denuvo has a set limit on the amount of activations it allows per-game. This is five systems it detects within 24 hours.

  • ZeroPoke
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    222 days ago

    Like I needed more reason to never buy games with Denuvo. But hey added to the list.