Next to Bernie she’s the best the Dems have to offer. And for any possible run for President, she beats Bernie on age.
If they run Harris again, or Newsom or some other conservative Democrat in 2028, the party is fucked.
Of course they will. Harris or Buttigeig
Her as president and Bernie as vp. If they kill her then they put someone even more opposed to their views in power.
The Gore Strategy
As much as I absolutely adore Bernie, the guy needs a rest. He’d be starting as VP for a potential 8 year period of two terms at 86…That means he’d be 94 by the time he left office. The man is an absolute beast, but father time catches up with us all and I don’t want to see his final days in politics to be a sad decline after everything he’s given. He deserves to serve as a badass senator, like he always has, until a progressive gets elected as president and then retire.
AOC and Pete Buttigeig as VP, on the other hand…or Tim Waltz again…or Elizabeth Warren for a double team, all woman ticket? Hell yeah.
yeah, one of the reasons the dems are a dead/dying brand currently is because they keep putting in who they feel has earned it the most, not who the population actually likes. That also leads to entire party embarrassment when they fight for that person and they turn out to be an abysmal milquetoast failure like Biden.
AOC - Crockett?
Agree but have the senior members support and coach AOC, have a united front. We’re supposed to support and learn from our elders but they have an obligation to move aside and allow the younger leaders to rise.
Support, yes. Not too sure about coaching, though, I think she’s doing great without needing to consult old white people
Agree but have the senior members support and coach AOC
lol the dweebs that can’t win a slam dunk election because they are too busy running corporate friendly husks
You guys need more than just two relevant parties. AOC being this popular should prompt her to start her own movement, supported by Bernie, raher than clinging to the “Democrats”.
I’ll trust her judgment on that one.
Seeing how it’s going in USA rn I don’t trust any judgment coming from the country whatsoever
thanks, that’s helpful
They need election reform for that to happen.
And the only way election reform happens is if we get the corporate Dems who like things the way they are (AKA roughly all of them) out of power. It’s damn near hopeless.
Ideally, we get an democrat Bernie or AOC presidency, who then runs for a second term as an independent. Incumbents tend to have name recognition, which would make it easier to give the DNC the Old Yeller treatment. The Geronocrats have a callow ambition, even if progressives manage to Tea Party things. After all, the DNC’s bluebloods will want to retake the throne. It would be best if the throne that they treasure was lost outright.
Newsom is trying his level best to have a right-of-center glow up right now. I’m almost certain that the DNC plans to tilt the scales for him. They likely will resist running a woman again for a long time because they’ve stupidly come to the conclusion that it was the genitalia of the candidates and not the quality of the candidate, campaign, and platform that caused them to lose what should have been two of the most winnable elections ever.
Progressive woman of color
Or
Conservative white guy with (D) next to his name.
Pretty sure we can guess who will win the primary if they can help it. DNC leadership is not interested in what it’s membership wants.
Absolutely. I can’t see AOC being given a chance in 2028 unfortunately, unless things change a bit. Not excited for Newsom as a candidate :/
I’ve been saying for about 5 years, maybe better, that she is the person I am most excited to vote for as president of the United States one day.
I don’t even have another name in mind.
I will be as happy to vote for her as I was for Sanders in the primaries, twice. I legit can’t wait.
How about Jasmine Crockett? I hope between the two of them, they start inspiring and generating tons more to go into politics.
Hope Crockett gets to be gov of texas… She reminds me of Ann Richards in all the best ways. She’d make a great president too.
Jasmine Crockett seems to be “AOC but sarcastic”.
The best part about it, is that the old-as-fuck Democrats hate it, which makes me love it all the more.
Hopefully we get to tell them to get in line or they’re a Trump lover at some point.
After all the right-wing Neoliberals I’ve voted for over the years out of harm reduction to attempt to stop literal murderous fascists, it would be nice to see them eat some of that shit and vote for someone with ideals they loathe, win or lose.
She’s already 35. Run her.
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I have said this elsewhere, but i will not again vote for the Democratic Party until they actually put up progressive candidates. Not pinky swear to pass progressive policy. That means the candidates has to have a provable history of struggling against the Democratic Party to pass progressive policy. There are only two i know of and that’s Bernie Sanders (who is too old for the presidency), and AOC. Else it’s third party until the democrats learn better.
I would prefer a new party, but I’m glad that she and Bernie are still out there.
Water is wet. Wasn’t this obvious when the DNC kingmakers, I mean, leadership decided to boot her out of a key committee position with a person that that could have passed for a republican and retired after getting the position? A poll was needed to see this?
Water isn’t wet. What touches water is wet.
And water doesn’t touch water?
If you have an amount of water that can be divided, it touches other water. Therefore water is wet unless it is a single molecule
Water touches other water therefore water is wet. If you isolated a single molecule of H2O, that water would not be wet. However, it is nearly impossible to do this, hence it would be the exception and not the norm.
This argument isn’t profound, it’s just short sighted.
Wetness is a perception not an objective state. What “wet” even is, is up for debate.
What a great spin. Wetness as a state of mind. How revolutionary
Sploosh
Things with hydrogen in it are wet.
Blimps?
They make me wet, which is kinda the same
Water is wet, and pendants are annoying rather than clever.
We should be so lucky to have a party she represents in this country. The only reason she has that seat is by defying the DNC as a spoiler. They only elevate politicians to the Federal level on the basis of how good they’ve proven they are at collecting that sweet, sweet corpo bribe money.
The DNC and democratic leadership would rather dissappear her Than Trump by a mile.
The pendulum is the point. Both parties are well bribed to maintain the capitalist’s murderous control. Good cop and bad cop are both just fine with mass homelessness and entire murder for profit confidence scheme market sectors. One laughs at you when the capitalists cause you harm, the other just shrugs and says “golly gee market forces nothing we can do! But I affirm your right to die horribly as who you are here in this cardboard box under a freeway! Pronouns are free so whatever I still get bribed 😁” (edit to be clear, respecting others identity is the right thing to do and basic decency, but there’s a hierarchy of needs, self-actualization only matters if you have your basic needs met. You cannot live in an affirmation ribbon, you cannot eat a preferred pronoun, priorities.)
If the Democrats were led by someone talking about redistribution, that bribe gravy train would stop. If by some miracle AOC manages to steal the party out from under them as Trump did the RNC, the DNC would be fighting her every move and comment the way we wish they were countering Trump right now. In fact, here’s how Democrat leadership spent the months leading to Trump’s inauguration:
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/12/aoc-pelosi-oversight-committee-connolly-raskin
Defending the country from one of the only slightly left Reps in the entire federal government.
Democrats like Schumer and Pelosi are far closer to Trump than AOC.
https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775
A note on this survey is that it was taken of all likely voters, so it’s possible it could be influenced by conservatives being, let’s say, not very normal about her. Regardless, people on both sides often see the Democratic party much further left than it really is.
No shit. The rest of them have their head’s in the ground.
“Democrat voters want leftist leadership”
Disagree. The Democrats dont know who they are anymore. Pelosi and the old Democrats have got to go.
AOC should just make a new party.
Well afaik she’s the only one doing a nationwide campaign at the moment
Please don’t fuck this up DNC! Embrace the change!
Harris was supposed to be the one who’d get the Progressives excited and she got fewer votes than Biden did in 2020.
WEIRD! I KNOW Progressives and they LOVE Bombing Children and KEEPING the Status Quo! It’s so WEIRD they WOULDNT Vote for Harris!
Well, they must love bombing children since they worked so hard to keep Trump in.
are you talking about progressives or centrists, dagwood?
When your choice is keeping the status quo, or everything getting a lot worse, that doesn’t seem to be a difficult choice.
Maybe the DNC should stop trying to run on the status quo instead of blaming the voters.
Americans want change, that’s how trump got elected, even the right wing doesn’t like the status quo. They don’t agree on the direction, but the status quo was not the move to make there, not when that includes US funded murder of children
The DNC can do far better, yes. But the voters can also do better. Thinking critically is an important part of participating in democracy.
As I said before the election, there was no option that did not include US funded murder of children. If Trump had been an outspoken opponent of the war in Gaza, (and we had any reason to believe him) then I could see the argument. But that was not the case, was it?
I appreciate the pragmatism, and for what it’s worth, I agree with your logic but voters aren’t pragmatists. They engage emotionally, which is why reactionary movements thrive.
Republicans offered an identity rooted in tribalism, fueled by fear, anger, and even hatred. Yet even a hateful tribe is still a tribe. In an era of loneliness and division, the group that accepts you flaws and all holds a powerful advantage. The side effect? Politics becomes emotional, not intellectual.
And let’s be honest: It’s hard to blame voters for disengaging. First-past-the-post, ‘lesser of two evils’ voting is demotivational at its core.
When every election feels like damage control, idealism withers.
Agreed on all points. But rational thinking is necessary for a functioning democracy.
As you observe, that’s one reason we don’t have one.
Backing a genocide and pretending like people weren’t having financial issues just because the stock market was up didn’t help much.
She didn’t have any progressive stances, why were they supposed to be excited about her?
Harris was supposed to be the one who’d get the Progressives excited
Well whoever thought of that was clearly a moron
Why would she have gotten progressives excited?
The question I ask is why people needed to be excited at all?
Trump was openly talking about aiding the Israelis plus stopping aid to Ukraine.
Apparently, people thought if they didn’t vote for Harris Trump wouldn’t win either.
Why was she supposed to be? And why did she spend so much time on stage with conservative republicans trying to prove how middle of the road she was?
She abandoned all her progressives positions early. I’m no political consultant, but I think thats usually not the best method to win over progressives. I dont think she planned on progressive support-- I think someone told her she could win some republicans and never have to talk to a progressives ever again.
