Good god, just let it die already. Pass the reins on to someone who can actually make a decent CyberPunk game. I do not trust CDPR to make entertaining games anymore.
What? The launch was definitely botched, but after all the updates it’s now a great game. Personally one of my favorites. Honestly I’m not sure if there are many studios who would do a better job than CDPR in making such a large scale Cyberpunk game.
It has a LOT of content cut from the board game, and the world is still incredibly shallow outside scripted gameplay
If you consider this anything more than a FPS game with cyberpunk aesthetics, I weep for your perception of quality
Fucking Ubislop Watch Dogs 2 had a more interactive world, for crying out loud
If you consider this anything more than a FPS game with cyberpunk aesthetics, I weep for your perception of quality
Way to show your opinion is less than worthless. If you’re too stupid to admit CP2077 is an RPG: that’s on you
I’m really not sure what you mean by this. Are you talking about the game at release, or after they patched in all the intended content?
Outside of what I assume you mean by the “scripted gameplay” of the main story there are dozens upon dozens of side quests and weird little points of interest to discover (well over a hundred, easily). A lot of them help to elaborate on the setting in interesting ways. What exactly were you expecting that the game didn’t deliver on?
Go play Deus Ex in the same genre, or some cyberpunk based CRPGs. Those games lots of mechanics that play into the game, DXMD’s Augment system wipes it’s ass with Cyberpunk’s Chrome for one.
Also it would help if they didn’t rush the story so much, it was a product of crunch and it shows. You can fix the bugs but you can’t fix fundamental problems with pacing
None of what you’ve just said connects back to your previous comment in the slightest. You started by saying that they cut too much from the TTRPG and that the world was too shallow, and then when I asked you to elaborate you just went on about augmentation systems.
At this point I’m not convinced you actually know what it is that you don’t like about it.
What? The cybernetic system is not a mechanic?
Okay but I don’t know anything about the boardgame. I’m judging the game based on the game itself. It’s a cool game set in a cool Cyberpunk world.
It still has some rough edges, even after the major updates. I liked the Panam ending a lot, arguably one of my favorite game endings ever, but the police spawn and logic is still terrible compared to the likes of older GTA games, and the cars still feel gross to drive. Just Cause 2 had better vehicle handling, and that’s a title from 2010.
What do you mean? The game was a huge success.
Remember Deus Ex: Mankind Divided ?
Which one was the most recent? I always mix up the last two. But yes, generally. The last one is still a buggy mess, sadly. Cyberpunk is not btw.
Buggy mess ? Deus Ex: Mankind Divided ? Really ‽
Yeah, sadly. It has big crashing issues. feel free to check.
What are your gripes with it ? I’m not familiar with the universe it’s set in, but I loved the game
And so the endless cycle of the borderline CD projekt games continues. Everything is hyped beyond realistic expectations a decade before launch, the masses whipped in anticipation. The game developers are kneecapped by suits making technical changes and demands they don’t understand. The game is launched after sorely felt apologies for delays, as a messy distasteful buggy disaster. Then the devs get to finish the game during thn next five unars after sorely felt apologies for the buggy mess at launch. 5 more years later the game is hailed as a creative masterpiece, despite being held by bubblegum and paperclips under the hood and still being a subpar experience. Then CDPR announces a new game, and the cycle repeats.
We didn’t learn anything from “Bethesda’s magic”. What a mismanaged company.
Endless cycle? Wasn’t everything you described just cyberpunk? Did I miss something about their previous title releases?
Yes, you did. The last step of the cycle is that everyone forgets that this already happened before. The witcher, then the witcher 2, then witcher 3, then cyberpunk. Each was such a mess at launch that the press at the time thought the games would flop. Each time devs, not suits, pulled the games out of PR hell after the fact.
People forget that the console port of the first witcher game nearly bankrupted them.
Just look at this thread people are talking like cyberpunk was always a perfect masterpiece since launch and negative comments are being buried in down votes.
I played Witcher 3 a few months after it released, and it was nearly bug free, and certainly lived up to most expectations. It had a massive world, every inch of which was crammed with fleshed out interesting stories and characters with character. It was a breathtaking experience from the start, and if it had a few things to work out in the initial weeks, I can understand that.
The difference between CDPR and Bethesda is CDPR games always end up being all time greats though. That’s why I don’t get influenced by the hype, and keep faith in them as developers, as well as their move to unreal engine
Bethesda’s games are also celebrated as all time greats.
Games are good, eventually, in spite of the mismanagement, not because of it. At one point they will run out of magic, just like Bethesda did. For said magic is just a ton of good writing and developers putting up with crunch.
Bethesda delivers just good enough for the modding community to pick up the rest and fix their shit. Unofficial patches, Oscuro’s Oblivion Overhaul, and all that.
CDPR fixes their own shit.
Both end up with solid games for patientgamers but damn you gotta be really patient.
Agree to disagree on that, I haven’t played a Bethesda game I’ve considered “good” since Morrowind personally, and on the other hand Cyberpunk is top tier for me.
Hopely, this game’s launch is better then the first one.
Shouldn’t be hard unless the bar fell into an open hole in the ground
I will put it on my calendar for 2035.
By the time Cyberpunk 2 comes out, I’ll have my own Keanu installed in my brain.
By the time it gets fixed & playable, the remainder of Keanu’s body will also need a mind reinstall.
You won’t get Keanu. You’ll get trump
Oh no…
Before they get too far, can someone please make sure they have the rights to Joe Walsh’s “In The City” this time? It would be fantastic music for an intro, outro, or act break.
I hope that if this game is open world then the story at least matches it, unlike the first one.
There were just so many pointless distractions, and hardly any of them lead to anything interesting.
This one won’t have Path Tracing, the GPU will absorb light from the atmosphere and project it onto your screen at 15 fps.
2 FPS with Novideo AYEE AYYYY DLSUCKSS 81715X FRAME GENERATION enabled
The more you buy the more you save™ – God-Emperor Jensen Huang
Let’s go, i need it haha
I hate when sequels are prequals! We want 2078!
I’m going to hold out for Cyberpunk 2222, personally.
At least everyone knows not to trust this dev anymore and won’t buy the game until it’s actually finished
Sad this likely means the first one never gets finished
Yeah their greed is disgusting. I wander how many DLCs they’ll make for this next one before it’s finished
Expansion packs have existed since the 90s at least. There were also special editions and stuff before DLCs were possible.
Umm okay? Cool fact bud
Just saying if they do release DLCs and add ons it isn’t something particularly new or particularly greedy.
It is greedy when they ask for more money for “extra” content for an unfinished game.
What are you even talking about? They only shit you had to pay extra for was Phantom Liberty. Every other update or content release has been free.
And it was greedy as hell because when that DLC was announced and released the game was still buggy and unfinished. The game still doesn’t feel complete without the DLC is what I hear from everyone I know and multiple reviews
lol, buy?
The first one was finished, and is a fantastic game.
It was pretty damn solid. I didn’t finish it, I had fun running around blasting gang members. Ducking through alley ways was the shit.
CP2077 was not finished when it came out at the end of 2020.
This revisionist history of it being complete on release will get no traction here.
Literally nobody said that. Your username checks out.
Yeach . It had rocky start but damm disregarding bugs the praises were more than deserved. Literally the best action RPG that exists.
Literally the best action RPG that exists.
Spoken like someone that has played about four or five video games in their entire life. It’s not even an RPG. It’s a shitty first person shooter with pointless skill trees tacked on. Even if you were to classify it as an action RPG, it doesn’t crack the top 20.
What a blisteringly stupid thing to say, considering art is subjective.
It absolutley does. Also cyberpunk actually gives you a lot of freedom on how you aproach combat. Can you play it as mindless shooter. Yup . But you can also play deus ex like that and no one calls it a shitty first person shooter ( even tho thats technicaly the easiest way to finish the game ). And as far as the world and story is concerned its equisite. As far as whetewer its an RPG or not. If mass effect is an RPG than so is cyberpunk i think . Very subjective thing in general . Definietly not a hill im willing to die on.
It’s absolutely a fantastic game. I’m glad Gibson is giving his blessing for the sequel, I’m looking forward to it!
A rocky start? It got removed from the game stores and full refunds given. That’s not a simple “rocky start” the released a pre alpha at full price.
It was finished and buggy… it’s now finished, fixed and expanded.
If it’s good enough for Gibson, it’s good enough for me.
Right now is where it should have been on release.
Not feature complete to pre-release promises/expectations
You don’t have to lie to justify your purchase, you can enjoy it for what it is
The game is finished. Maybe not finished to your expectations, but it is definitely finished, and is a damn fine action RPG. And Phantom Liberty is the best damn DLC for any game I’ve ever played since the Shivering Isles for Oblivion.
Calling others opinions lies just because you don’t appreciate what they’re saying is what we in the industry like to call a “bitch ass move”.
Reconsider what you responded to and what finished means
I don’t need to reconsider shit, the game is finished, and is amazing.
Speak for yourself choom. I’ll buy that scop on launch day. (I only preorder RGG games cuz they have never missed)
Maybe about time for me so start the first.
I just got 2077 after however many years. 50 hours, I know the end is like the next mission or two but I don’t want it to end. Easily my favorite game ever. Guess I’ll get another play through in 5 years before I play the sequel after its released and has a couple years of debugging.
Yeah I’m just now playing it for the first time too. I’m really enjoying it and still have so much to do.
I thought I saw somewhere that it was 150 hours for a full play through. I’m down to just a handful of cyberphycos and side gigs before the last mission. Almost 60 hours now. I’ve been trying to do literally everything but there’s not much left.
When phantom liberty goes on sale I’ll probably get it and do another full play through. I know there are multiple endings, tons of different builds, but its all still the same story that I know what’s going to happen so there’s only so much replay value after you know the story, kinda like skyrim.
This would 100% be the game I would choose to completely forget so I could experience it again.
Hurr durr WheN ITs ReAdY
won’t fall for CD Projekt again
Seriously. I’ve lost all faith in this company.
They fixed the performance issues, but at the end of the day, the game is still boring as fuck. IDK how they did it, cause the CyberPunk aesthetic is right up my alley.
