• @[email protected]
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    181 month ago

    What gets me is that, according to the gender stereotype, women enjoy the flowery type scents, so you would think that if ladies find that pleasing that men would want to smell that way.

    Personally, I like to smell clean and I don’t buy soap based on the color of the bottle or whether it says “for men” in it. My shampoo/conditioner has a nice citrus aroma, but more importantly it does a great job on my hair.

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      You probably think that freshly mown grass after a spring rain smells good. You would probably be weirded out if your chocolate cake smelled like that. Just because women like flowery scents doesn’t mean it is a good idea for a man looking for women to wear one.

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        Why would you mow the grass right after it rains?

        Edit: You are comparing an unrelated “pleasant” smell (I’m neutral on cut grass, but I get your point) with something that people already know how it’s supposed to smell.

        With fragrances, neither males or females naturally smell like flowers. A lot of women seem to enjoy smelling/smelling like flowers.

        As a man I also enjoy smelling flowers (but I’m not big on artificial fragrances in general) so I don’t feel like a grass smelling cake is a good comparison.

    • @[email protected]
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      111 month ago

      That’s not the stereotype, the gender stereotype is that women are supposed to smell that way.

      Needless to say, it’s a stupid stereotype, as stereotypes generally are

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        I have some kind of allergy to the seemingly most common perfume scent. I remember getting massive headaches riding in the car with my mom as a kid, my gf/wife wore it for a while too until I told her I thought it gives me headaches. One of my coworkers would spray it right at her desk in a large quantity until I (as nicely as I could) asked her to do it away from the desk as the smell was very intense, which she did oblige.

        Don’t know what the point of this was lol

  • @[email protected]
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    31 month ago

    It took me until the early 2020s to realize that men even have body washes in the first place.

    Keep in mind that I abandoned broadcast TV around 2001 or 2002, so I completely cut all commercials out of my life.

    Then when the first adblocker became available for Phoenix (later Firebird, then Firefox) around 2004, I was all over that like white on rice. So since 2004 the only ads I have had to suffer were when I set up a new system whose browsers needed configuring, and later once my browser protections became too strict and I needed a “naked” web browser for user-hostile sites that tied spyware and near-malware into site-critical functionality.

    So I have been “out of the advertising loop” for a very long time, and always saw bodywash as a female thing. I quite literally never “got the memo” that body washes came for men.

    And I’m not likely to get any, either. And not for any stupidly sexist reasons - after five decades on this rock, I am just habituated on bars of soap. I just don’t like the showering/soaping-up experience without bar soap.

  • @[email protected]
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    21 month ago

    I don’t think this is toxic masculinity or even abnormal. Some guys don’t like pink, don’t like smelling like flowers, don’t want to wear dresses. We can accept people who have different diverse preferences without looking down on people for conforming to traditional preferences.

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      21 month ago

      Some guys don’t like pink, don’t like smelling like flowers, don’t want to wear dresses.

      “Some”? I would say “most”. Why do you think that is? Just a coincidence?

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        My whole point is why shouldn’t be shocked or annoyed that a guy doesn’t want to smell like daiseys and roses.

        There’s nothing wrong with being who you are. That means we should be supporting effeminate gay people, supporting trans people, but also supporting guys who don’t want to smell like girl scents.

        I do not think that gender norms or toxic masculinity is the cuprit. Some dudes really don’t like dresses and do like trucks. It’s not all just because of norms.

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      71 month ago

      Yeah, nothing says “I just don’t like that scent” quite like “I ain’t no bitch”

  • @[email protected]
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    91 month ago

    Dude, the ladies know what they are doing here. I love the st Ives body wash. I don’t always want to smell like wood.

    • Sabata
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      21 month ago

      I could smell like strawberry and sugar cookie or cold trees and beach episode trees.

  • @[email protected]
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    21 month ago

    It sounds like this guy needs SLAM LOTION! The best sunscreen for manly men that want to suntan like a man!!!

    And if you didn’t know…it’s a real thing. I just learned about it today.

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        People say Irish spring smells like a urinal cake, but I really liked when they put ground up seeds in their bodywash. It was like the cheapest exfoliating gel at the time and the scent was great

          • @[email protected]
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            11 month ago

            I think I remember reading about something like that. The label on the back said processed apricot pits or something like that. But now that you mention it I think there was headline about the seed material used in exfoliating gels of the time never actually being cellulose or anything biodegradable.

  • @[email protected]
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    191 month ago

    It is a society thing. There were many ways I never got along with my ex mother in law …… but one of them was that if I forgot my soap or shampoo and used my wife’s she made a big deal of it. I mean I would thank her for (passive aggressively) complimenting my scent but that’s annoying.

    It’s just soap and shampoo. I generally prefer unscented and strongly prefer something that doesn’t trigger my psoriasis but the bottom line is getting clean

    • @[email protected]
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      191 month ago

      The fucking gender-norm police. Typically older folks. I once had people snickering at me for holding a bag with the crook of my arm, instead of the manly way, with my hand. And you better not cross your legs the wrong way when you’re sitting!

      • @[email protected]
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        91 month ago

        Fuck that noise, I can’t stand that petty nonsense. If someone’s gonna be snarky to me over something dumb, I like to loud-cap and embarass them. Ya don’t even have to be mean, just direct and blunt

        When I’m asked to hold someone’s purse, I don’t hold it in my hand away from me like it’s diseased. I put it on my shoulder like god intended. If someone wants to say something instead of minding their business… I’m going to have a little fun. “THEY’RE TRYING TO STEAL MY PURSE!!! THAT’S NOT YOUR PURSE SIR!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU‽”

        • @[email protected]
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          31 month ago

          The normal, comfortable way. If you are a man you have to hike your foot up so that it is resting above the knee on your opposite leg.

          Ladies can’t do that because you might see up their dress. Because ladies always wear dresses.

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            41 month ago

            In parts of the Middle East that would be the wrong way. Crossing your legs those way would have your foot pointing at the person next you, which is a bigger taboo than doing something girly.

  • @[email protected]
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    201 month ago

    How does being so particular in body wash and demanding for accommodations from another guy become compatible with manliness? Especially the latter.

    It’s also a bit funny to read “I ain’t no bitch” with caps and punctuation and all that, as if intentionally spelled out. Produces the impression opposite of what they were trying to make.

    I think all those movies and series, say, with Jon Snow not cutting his hair (shaving and doing a haircut are not very technologically demanding processes, and starting with Iron Age they were norm in most places), looking greased in shit and wearing an animal skin, and talking in that perpetually hysterical “roaring/whining” voice, and similar portrayals of “real man” as what would be called “gay sex symbol” 50 years ago, have given sprouts.