- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
Would you like some pie? Check it out here: https://piefed.ca/
What is PieFed
PieFed follows a similar format as Lemmy and Mbin. Those that are familiar with Lemmy will find it very similar, with some additional features including topic lists, optional private voting, new mod and admin tools, crosspost de-duplication, community wikis, etc. Thanks to how the fediverse works, you can use either lemmy.ca or piefed.ca to interact freely!
We will put together some guides on our non-profit’s website at some point. In the meantime, we have created [email protected] for us to learn from each other. There is also the official [email protected] community which has a similar purpose.
We have done some testing and we are learning as we go, but please bear with us while this new platform gets going 🙂
Other Links & FAQ
- lemmy.ca is not migrating to PieFed. We will run both instances at the same time. You can use whichever one you prefer.
- Learn about the differences between PieFed & Lemmy: https://join.piefed.social/features/
- A tour of the community moderation features in PieFed: https://piefed.social/post/844065
- One of the first mobile apps to implement support for PieFed, with more to come: https://interstellar.jwr.one/
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Trying out PieFed after 2 years of Lemmy and it’s looking more and more like Voyager has ended it’s time on my phone
When you submit the https://piefed.ca/auth/register form, is there any confirmation message? I didn’t see any. I filled it twice 😬 .
Odd, something may have broken with the registration submission. We’ll look into it
Thanks. I tried with both Firefox and Chromium.
Fixed now!
Check your email
Yay! Got the email. Thanks!!
Awesome, is part of the motivation here to guard a bit against the unpopularity of the Lemmy devs / lemmy.ml?
I do somewhat feel like they’ve made people a bit more skeptical of the Lemmy name, PieFed might be an easier sell as a reddit alt.
Hello from PieFed
Hello ✌️ 😄
Hola desde el mismo lugar de siempre. (Lemmy).
Oh, Piefed has the ability to see threading and micro-blogging posts?
You might be thinking of Mbin, the other one of the “big three” (more like big one and the other two). Mbin’s biggest differentiating feature is microblog support. It’s hard to boil PieFed down to one main feature compared to Lemmy/Mbin, but anonymous voting and de-duplication of reposts might be the main ones. However, its focus is still on the (Lemmy-style) threaded side of the fediverse.
Out of curiosity, can a community opt out of its comments being bundled with others?
After seeing it in action, I think that’s actually a nifty feature that most communities and the threadiverse as a whole would benefit from, but I could also potentially foresee a minority of communities not wanting to increase their comments exposure to that degree.
@[email protected] another interesting idea
Honestly, I think it’s one of the most undercutting, least thought out features in piefed, that focuses entirely on the immediaye convenience of the end user over the health of the discussion groups and servers that make up the network.
It’s the eating a tub of icing for supper of social media features.
PieFed is developing rapidly, and these sound like reasonable concerns that the developers might address at some point :)
Looks like someone else tagged the dev already, we can also post suggestions in [email protected]
Along those lines: it also only shows the sidebar of the first community
Thinking a bit bigger - I’d like to see a ‘private community’ feature which limits the visibility of posts inside to community members only. With an optional approval process to join.
That would take care of the comment bundling issue too.
I think there would still be a desire for the relative in-between setting of just opting out of the bundling. My reasoning is that a community may want to be open to be viewed and commented by anyone so that they continue to grow and have more participation, either by search or random encounter from the /all view, as that allows slow organic growth with relatively few people wanting to go in there and derail conversations.
With bundling, that community will be seen by far more non-members than ever before if a popular link is posted around to multiple communities, inviting a significant amount of outside participation, and the potential for a much increased need to keep things on topic, or to step in and moderate drama from other communities with wildly different perspectives.
Without the ability to opt out of bundling, this leaves only the two extremes of potentially unwanted isolation, or potentially unwanted increased outside participation.
The only other option would be for a community to request their admin defederate from the troublesome community, or from the outside instance entirely, which is using a mallet to solve something that could be done with scalpel.
I do think the bundling is quite nice overall, and I don’t foresee a problem with it being the default, but I do strongly see the need for that middle ground option to opt-out, personally. The way Lemmy currently operates by default is effectively that middle-ground option that is missing from Piefed.
the two extremes of potentially unwanted isolation, or potentially unwanted increased outside participation.
Yes that’s a good way to put it. Thanks.
Cheers for hearing me out! :)
Congratulations!
Thank you for your hard work :)
Mmmmmmmmmmm. Sugar Pie. My birthday treat!
Oh great!
Stuff like this really helps reinforce why the fediverse is the best platform. Portability is no joke.
Pie flavor. I’m stoked that Piefed has Atkinson Hyperlegible as a font choice! It’s my favorite font, especially for ereaders.
That’s awesome!
It suck that they implements karma and collapsing downvoted comments. Two censorship methods
The collapsing of downvoted comments is configurable in the user settings, so it’s possible to disable it or fine tune it to the way you want it. The discussion is still valid for what the default settings should be
I’m still learning about the karma side, so I don’t want to comment on that yet
Should be the opposite, people who want to collapse comment with lot of downvotes should activate it
This is ActivityPub, not Reddit. It is optional, democratic and auditable.
People are not sending posts/comment to be approved first, you can post whatever you want. It is a plus if the community found a bad faith actor and tagged them. So I am not forced to see their disinformation campaign.
We all know that most people use downvotes as a disagree button not just to suppress hate speech and any other really harmful opinions. There is a report button for that. Even an opinion based comment could be heavily downvoted
The downvotes and karma do not stop you from saying whatever you want. It just means you have to say it somewhere else. Hence, you are not censored.
Are you being glib?
When a comment is collapsed , people tend to skip the comment. Hiding stuffs is censorship
It’s just improving the signal-to-noise ratio.
Yes; through censoring unpopular comments. Whether or not it’s a good thing is debatable, but not so much whether it exists.
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Nice. Already registered.
Is there a recommended android app for it?I just saw the FAQ section after.
Hello from the other side!
I’m just happy we have another Canadian instance
Well… It’s the same management. It gives users another option for how to consume but it doesn’t add a lot of diversity. No fault implied.
