How do we know they intended to kill the bird and not give it a light bonk? Where did you see he disregarded their reactions?

So all not normal things are psychotic?

That’s sweet. I hope you have the same level of empathy for human beings.

I understand they’re trying to do their thing, and that’s what happens. He’s not going around torturing birds for his entertainment. And here I’m entirely on the side of humanity, lol, what? I feel bad for the dude, his day was probably ruined.

Plants don’t count as living things to you, huh

Go talk to your plants, I bet they’re the only ones who tolerate you. 😤

It’s really not a big deal, and I don’t understand why it should be. He had a moment of anger (very valid) and what I assume was an immediate, unthinking violent reaction (also understandable but it might have scared some people around, which is not as cool), else the bird would’ve just flown away. I feel bad for the kids watching it, but more so for the dude who just wanted to eat chips in peace. A bird is a bird, and he’s not going around exterminating all birds in existence. Use your heart to give homeless people money, to raise abandoned kids and to stop imperialism and genocide.

What about this was “random?”

Legality does not mean morality, come on. If you’ve lived in the West, you know it perfectly well. Is this what the conversation has come to?

Unlike the rats in my city, I shower.

No arguments, so you use ad-hominem attacks.

Pas pire que Reddit, non (peut-être?), mais je vois que c’est pas le e-paradis que j’avais été promis, mdr. Merci pour ta compréhension ! 🙏

Well, I’m not going up to people and stealing their shit

Ah, of course. People and seagulls are the same and deserve the same treatment and the same considerations. And my cat is my daughter and I’m a pitmommy too. This is why y’all are weird to other people.

I assumed the dude grabbed it as it was flying out with the chip and just slammed it quickly without much thought. He might have a horrible day/week, just wanted to have some chippies and this happened. Meh. 🤷

seriously. who steals a french fry?

He should not have. But we kill animals all the time simply for eating meat, because we think that tastes a bit better. We don’t need to inflict suffering on animals for years, we can abstain from meat. How are we more moral? Just because we outsource the killing? I so not condone his actions, just point out that we are not better.

But they will to make gravy and nobody bats an eye.

It might not have been the first gull who stole his chips—a man has his limits.

Of course he should not have done this. What I am saying is that eating meat when we clearly don’t need to is also unnecessary killing. So he killed an animal for no good reason, and we kinda do the same. We have more ethical foods available for us, but we like the taste of meat, and don’t care enough about their suffering. Except for those that abstain from meat.

Shouldn’t ave stolen me chip. Simple as.

I know what you mean, it’s disproportionate as hell. I am just saying that we aren’t much better morally than him. Unless we abstain from meat.

If a seagull is stealing chips from someone, odds are there are plenty of other seagulls around to witness their compatriot getting merked.

Seagulls understand that stealing from humans is risky - that’s why they generally do it very quickly. The ones who fail suffer consequences for their failure, same as stealing food from any other creature. It’s the risk/reward calculation any scavenger has to make.

Sometimes they calculate incorrectly. They get forcibly removed from the gene pool.

Of course, it’s also illegal in a lot of countries to harm seagulls, so in that sense, he was in the wrong anyways.

It’s not about morals that the seagulls can understand. It is not about teaching something. He acted like a moron and completely disproportionately. However it’s not that much unethical than killing for meat, when we don’t need to eat meat.

Another thing, I remember when I used to live in a house with a cat and a lot of rodents. Our traps killed a couple a week and our cat killed probably not far from a thousand rodents and birds. We could have protected our house more from animals, and we could have had the cat indoors. Somehow cats killing animals is socially accepted, the same goes for rodents in your house.

Exactly this, I am not trying to say that it is not allowed to have the opinion that this was distasteful. I just find it interesting how hard people judge this person. There are infinitely amounts of cognitive dissonance we all live with every day. It’s not really to judge people for eating meat, it’s more to point our that from a logical standpoint this person actually did not do something much more unethical. Kinda like the thing with the female politician who shot her dog. Which I personally feel is insane and a terrible thing to do, but at the same time dogs are kinda like pigs, and we kill them all the time just because we prefer pig meat over lentils, beans, rice etc.

The bird shit might clear the hole?

Doesn’t make them any more convenient to live with than hungry mosquitoes or botfly larvae

Small flighted bird - Low meat ratio

Human food scavenger - Dirty malnourished

Of course, if you give McDonalds any hints, they might throw em in a grider whole and start a new line of nuggets.

It’s been considered by many but unfortunately they are full of tiny bones, lack much meat, and don’t taste great owing to their ongoing diet of garbage, fast food, and their own shit

NEVER!

Fuck seagulls! Delete them

Wasn’t cruelty.

It was quick.

You don’t have the same opinion when it comes to rats

I dont think you should call others psycho after fantasizing about their death.

Oh no not the flying rats

Laden or unladen?

I’m sure someone’s mother should be able to answer this

it does not. Seagulls are protected in: UK, Ireland, all of Europe, all of North America, Mexico, Australia, Japan, Russia, and probably more but i can’t be bothered to go past the first few Google searches to find out