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Well they are the French
There are other, much better sites, lol.
go on…
spankbang, xvideos, eporner…
hmm those equivalent, I would not call them better
Spankbang alone blows PornHub out of the water in my opinion. So does Xvideos. I guess it depends what you’re into? I don’t like all of the incest shit on PornHub.
Good ol’ Anja und Katja definitely helped me out in my teenage years.
It’s wincest. Especially if it features little people.
More of just a softcore/strip kinda guy. I find porn corny and offputting so I’m usually just browsing /s/, fapello, or the endless tumblr blogs for every fetish imaginable. (suggestions welcome).
gallery sites, are my thing, I guess, redtube is another good one with a lot of solo stuff. Motherless, though I hate going there because some of that content is a little on the teen-obsessed side, and kinda creepy, but I do like the way the site is designed.
<_< are we having this discussion right now?
I see… and agree. In my world PornHub seems to be the most famous but I rarely visit.
Seeing some “unexplored” options with all the suggestions here hehehe
Different, I would say. Best home vids? PH. More fetishes? Xvideos.
xnxx
xvideos is a PH affiliate i think, if you noticed ph or these adjacent sites will have links to each other that have similar sanitationized like PH did.
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Big Porn ™️
xHamster is my go to!
Pervertube. Thisvid. Motherless.
I just realized indicating these websites might have revealed a little too much about the kinds of porn I like to watch. ☹️
Absolute degeneracy, thank you.
Whoa. I haven’t heard of Pervertube. I have specific tastes involving a dirty mattress with no sheet or at least one overflowing ashtray.
NEW PORN!!!1!!!1!!!
Which one pops the “you are leaving the trans section to go the straight section, are you sure?”
I really don’t think I should be called out just because I like straight porn.
As a «produced porn» enjoyer…
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Treat porn like you do tv shows :p
I don’t really care for home video stuff
Home video stuff is arguably the best!
Often filmed with nothing but desire to share the joy. Vivid, real, as opposed to the carefully curated studio plastic, or OF crap where people have it for the money, and with all the ethical and other concerns about it.
But I know there are always two sides to look at the issue. Studio production is obviously more perfected, and that’s what many like
To each their own!
Get Alldebrid, yes it’s paid but it’s cheap if you are just getting a vpn for porn you might as well get Alldebrid and you can use it to stream movies on stremio as well , then install the Alldebrid browser extension. Go to Adultdb.io click one of the links, scan the page with the extension. It will find the rapdigator link even if you don’t solve the captcha. Then click on the link in the extension and then it takes you to the Alldebrid page where you can download or stream the movie at basically the best quality. Also Alldebrid works with torrents so you can add torrents from xxxclub.to and usually it’s already cached and you can watch it immediately.
Also great for VR just load the torrents into Alldebrid, then go to the Alldebrid media folder page on your headset with DeoVR or HereSphereVR then you can stream VR porn directly, no need to download.
Why do the French even need Pornhub when their basic movies are very porn adjacent?
I blame the French for 120 days of Sodom burning my eyeballs, and I just skimmed the Wikipedia article. One of them chose to print that instead of burning the notes. Anyways, why is the hub being blocked in France?
French politicians passed a law that requires porn sites collect pii (identity) in order to access the site. PornHub won’t violate the privacy and security of their users, so they simply block the locales that pass such laws.
“Children should be reading good old stories like 120 days of Sodom, not this Pornhub filth” - probably some French conservative somewhere.
The Marquis de Sade was an elected official btw. He would’ve jacked off to shock sites. Says quite a bit about some of the French that it wasn’t burned. It should’ve been. No historical or entertainment value, just pure degeneracy.
Protest on them trying to enact age consent laws.
By showing the message rather than Pornhub’s vast library of adult content, Aylo “is communicating directly with the French people to tell them how dangerous, how potentially privacy-infringing, and how ineffective the French law is”, Solomon Friedman of Aylo’s owner, Ethical Capital Partners, told reporters in a video call on Tuesday.
Paris has this year gradually introduced requirements for all adult websites to have users confirm their age with details like a credit card or ID document.
In a bid to preserve privacy, operators must offer a third-party “double-blind” option that would keep the platforms themselves from seeing users’ identifying information.Edit - the sauce - Pornhub, YouPorn owner suspends access to French users over age verification law
You mean they like their government likes to fuck them?
Or as they call it in France, Le Porn
And you know what they call a quarter pounder with Cheese in Paris?
A 113.3981 gramer with cheese?
I want to watch one with Marine Le Porn
Deepfakes are bad
Who mentioned deepfakes, I want a real one
Le pr0n
Pron du fromage
sigh…
I have to admit, of all the nations on earth, I never expected this sort of puritanical theatrical authoritarianism out of the french.
They should actually take to the streets (again). Not joking. What is this nanny-state BS?
I know right? Aren’t there nude beaches in the south of France where people will fuck in broad daylight with others watching?
French citizens please confirm (for uh, science, and not vacation planning)!
Yes, there are. But you misunderstood the news: France didn’t block pornhub, pornhub blocked France as a protest against a new law.
Passings laws we don’t like?
NO PORN FOR YOU!!!
Isn’t protest coooooo you guys?
Age verification in a porn database is odd to me, from a privacy point of view AND a massive undertaking for the porn company. And then there’s the puritan culture of wanting to block teenagers from watching porn? Seems a very anti-French thing to me, but I’m also pretty ignorant of actual French culture. I assumed French culture would be like, once you have the urges, you’ll go seeking, and if you need to look at the internet in the safety of your own bedroom, is better than unexpected pregnancies to satisfy urges.
What’s the deal with all of this, anyway? What are the arguments here?
Germany had this since forever, it’s just how offline laws translate to the internet: There’s a difference between a) ordinary nudity, b) eroticism and c) straight-up porn. The latter was always 18+, in video rental stores etc. they would have a separate section and if you didn’t look of age you’d get ID’d.
You can’t order alcohol online in Germany without a proper age check, and the same applies to porn. For paid offerings that’s no issue, payment providers offer age checks (your bank knows how old you are and them vouching suffices), for free sites it’s a no-go, noone is going to go through the hassle. Especially as you can escape off the German-language internet onto the international one and merely click through an “are you 18” banner.
Notably, pornhub isn’t blocked in Germany – neither from the German side, nor from pornhub’s. Very occasionally DNS bans are ordered when a site without age checks tries to specifically target the German market. Mostly though it’s down to German google not serving up those international porn sites which in the end is good enough for the youth protection authorities because the point is not to make access impossible, it’s to make sure that youth not ready for content doesn’t stumble across it. And once you’re actively seeking, you’re ready, the hoops you have to jump through are proof of the “active” part. YMMV on “not ready for porn with 18”, back in the days there was still softcore. On free TV. Probably won’t hurt kids to not start out with gonzo.
What are the arguments
“Protect delicate children’s eyes from seeing nudity”
I think that’s about it
I’m not aware of the exact motivations of all the actors. What follows are my guesses.
My guess would be that
- Some député want to protect children from the most dangerous types of porn (which I can hear on some level, porn can be addictive for some people and can lead to negative behaviour, children are always more sensitive).
- Some probably think that all porn is bad and want to prevent anyone from consuming it, this would only be a first step for those.
- Some definitely want to be able to spy on everyone and use this as an excuse to further reduce privacy and freedom
You might not be aware depending where you are from, but France is on a slippery slope towards Fascism, the far right is gaining more power every day, a lot of people think it is very plausible that a far right president is elected on the next election (2027), along with a parliament’s majority.
They’ve been trying to block it for many years now.
France has been going downhill for quite some time. Many proposals for chat control and tracking… even recently, we got a law proposal that aimed at banning E2EE 😵
Damn, the whole world really is going authoritarian.
When it’s not about protecting kids, it’s about fighting drugs
They always have a “good” reason to remove our freedom, because apparently security seems much more important, and it seems like it’s the only way to do it. Lol.
Authoritarians have embraced internet culture somehow.
I’m curious how they got Gen Z so curtailed.
Politicians are always trying to ban encryption in every country. I remember it happening constantly in the 90s. And it happens because politicians don’t understand that you can’t ban math
Wait 'til they do it. You’re underestimating them.
Democracy and general Egalitarianism is so 2008. Authoritarianism is what’s hot now.
Democracy and general Egalitarianism is so 2008
Bold of you to assume it ever was!
I can’t wait for a severe overcorrection
To clarify, the french didn’t ban pornhub, it’s the company behind pornhub who decided to deny it’s access in France to protest a law proposal that is currently getting examined in parliament
Ps : The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users
Ps : The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users
This is how young boys learn to computer. It won’t do shit to stop anything. It’s a waste of time.
Well – this might be more succesful in boostering the IT skills of France’s next generation than any curriculum reform.
How do you know it’s just boys? Seems an odd assumption, considering the nature of omission of information with this.
Because the majority of porn watchers are male at about a 4:1 ratio. They aren’t saying it was exclusively boys either, likely just what made sense from their perspective at the time.
The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users
Wait aren’t they proposing the same thing in the US as well? It’s a fairly standard thing of right-wing governments to just demand the impossible with no understanding about it could possibly be achieved.
Right, because we’ve never checked ID for things like tobacco and alcohol before?
These porn companies should work on efficient cost effective ways to verify adults instead of using politics and social media to increase profits. I’m sure you are aware profit is higher if children are allowed on their websites.
It’s very different handing my ID to a store clerk, who barely looks at it because my birth year starts with 19, from uploading a photo of that ID to a sketchy service who now has a permanent documentation of precisely who I am and what sort of freaky shit I’m into.
Sure, the tracking services already know this, but they don’t also have a photo of my ID that I willingly gave to them to prove it’s me.
Are you embarrassed you look at porn? There’s plenty of ways to manage without an internet connection. Go grab a compilation torrent.
Even if all these sites went verification tonight, you’d still be able to privately jerk off to whatever it is you want to hide so bad.
Torrents are even worse without a VPN. Ever heard of https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/ ?
I’m not opposed to vpns. I simply don’t want porn accessible to children easily. Simple barriers to entry like an ID or credit card have worked before and surely will again once porn streaming sites give up fighting this regulation and start working to follow it.
Given that I torrent without a VPN and it had nothing on there, and it also got my location wrong by over 500km, I dont think I’m too worried.
How about we put some responsibility on parents to keep their kids away from potentially harmful Internet content, instead of relying on the state to do it for us in large swathes, affecting literally anyone who goes to those sites, legally or not? Surely you’re more on board with responsible parenting than everyone having to hand over their legal identification to a fucking porn site.
Its on both sides of the relationship, parent and porn provider. Same as with alcohol and tobacco, if you don’t have parents doing their part, those kids end up with that stuff anyways.
Brick and mortar shops aren’t comparable to websites, and I don’t know why you keep trying to compare them. The places that sell alcohol and tobacco aren’t asking me to upload a digital version of my legal identification to some cloud-backed database. They’re just manually checking a date and a picture. Most places I buy from don’t even make me physically hand over my ID, I can just show it to them without it ever leaving my possession.
You’ve never had your I’d scanned at a store before? How do you think all that works?
Yes because I’m not buying whisky online am I’m going to a physical store where I can give them my physical ID and they can look at my physical face. Unless I’m wearing a very convincing prosthetic there isn’t very much I can do to hide my identity.
Online is harder, just because I have uploaded an ID doesn’t mean it’s mine. What are they going to do, demand a video as well, because it’s not as if video generation hasn’t already gotten to the point where it’s perfectly capable of faking that kind of thing.
I can see you haven’t thought about this at all. You should run for office.
They understand just how hard it would be to comply. And that’s the point. Make it hard enough to meet the requirements to not make worth a business’ while to comply. And the politicians can say “We didn’t ban PornHub. They blocked you from access.”
It’s a common tool both the left and right use to control behaviors. Governments around the world do this all the time.
For now it’s not nation wide, it’s just up to states if they want to implement an age verification law like that. They want to make it so that in order to prove your identity/age you need to do something like upload a copy of your ID/Drivers License that will be linked with your “research” accounts.
They say it’s to “save the children” and shit like that but the end goal really is to basically shame people who enjoy researching things because Jesus says it’s bad.
The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users
Isn’t that already the case on a lot of the internet?
I think this law requires you to upload a photo of your ID and says that it’s the website’s fault if underage people use it and they face a hefty fine. It’s a lot more than the standard “click to pinky promise that you’re definitely 18” because PornHub already has that.
The percentages of respondents in surveys on infidelity answering “not a moral issue” from France are a bit of a cultural difference (from Australian perspective, anyway)
Blocking porn has got to be the most “why even bother” thing
It’s not about blocking porn.
It’s always about control. Conservatives want to control how you consume sexual content.
It’s not about that either. It’s about connecting photo ID to browsing profiles and deanonymising the internet.
¿Por que los dos?
Politically speaking, it’s easy money. You pander to the conservatives with blocking propositions, get votes.
*Who is going to champion the flip side?!"
Me. Porn is fine. Teach your children how to handle it. Teach them that it’s not realistic and some of it is straight-up dangerous. Put a filter on your internet if you’re too scared to talk to your kids about uncomfortable topics.
Man it’s porn, not guns. Children should not be near it!
Oh wait this is France
Anyway, I agree with you. We’re talking about regular ol garden variety porn. Everyone will probably see it at some point. Parents can limit what their kids see until the kids become smart enough to bypass filters. At which point they can probably handle seeing pennis n vagene.
Political theater. “Won’t somebody think of the children?” is an easy win for politicians.
Except it’s fucking awful to wait for buffering over Tor or a VPN
If you are paying for a VPN and you have buffering problems, change to another VPN, that one is shit.
Could just be their local internet quality. Which, still, not a VPN problem.
Sometimes routing between two IPs is fucked. Had that, and proxying to another location then to the destination again fixed it. Internet 😵
Video over Tor is pretty awful, simply due to the way Tor works; Bandwidth is inherently limited, because it’s shared by everyone using the network. Same reason you should avoid torrenting over Tor.
But if your video is buffering over a VPN, you need to find a new VPN provider. Mine maxes out my gigabit connection.
Are there going to be bandwidth problems with vpns when more countries block porn though?
Like lots of France just joined them, and the rest of us lost a bunch of French exit nodes (at least for porn). The increase in subscribers should help expand bandwidth at big servers, but there’sa limit when we’re talking whole nations.
Why use Tor? It’s been compromised for years now. Just use I2P. You can torrent with that too.
It’s an easy proxy.
It doesn’t do the one thing it’s meant to do.
I mean, neither does the Web by now.
allow region blocked people to circumvent restrictions? AFAIK it still does that.
That’s not the sole purpose of it. The way it does it was what was important. And that method is flawed.
Can you elaborate on how tor is screwed?
An example: https://youtu.be/XDsLDhKG8Cs
Could be worse. Could be you’re in the early 90s with only a 56k modem.
You’d have good games and no bullshit on your PC.
And great LAN parties.
My VPN’s perfectly fine. To be fair, it’s not a free plan of a VPN that’s heavily throttled, but I can even play multiplayer FPS games with only a few milliseconds of additional delay, and my overall max upload and download speed is almost exactly identical to when I have my VPN off.
Plus an excuse to collect more data.
Yeah the point is just to soften the populace to the idea. Our fucking PM covered for pedophile priests in a Catholic school 30 years ago, he doesn’t give any fuck about kids.
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Like Reddit or YouTube with proper keywords didn’t exist
Been there, done that
Reminds me of when my buddies discovered our friend’s YouTube account… He only had one public playlist, and it was 100% full of softcore porn. Nothing else. It was all softcore porn. We gave him a pretty good ribbing for that one, and still make a point of reminding him that better porn sites exist every time it comes up.
Always hide your playlists and subscriptions haha
But softcore has the benefit to help you retain normal libido and to not be dependent of more hardcore stuff
We gave him a pretty good ribbing for that one,
I guess you could say he got ribbed for his pleasure.
Meanwhile in Australia, they just passed a bill requiring social media to verify the age of their users to make sure they’re over 16
Ouch
What a great way to prevent minors from living their lives
VPN companies and data brokers have a financial incentive to lobby for intrusive age-verification and restrictions, and prudish politicians are conveniently present in every political system. The porn lobby is powerful, but it seems they’ve been losing this battle recently. Or maybe they’re cutting deals with the data brokers, who knows.
pornhub is so sanitized now, im guessing its mostly because of the OF videos. most of them are on sites that arnt affiliated with PH.
After the big purge of some years ago, PornHub has became useless. The good real videos are elsewhere.
They removed a lot of videos that were perfectly legal and fine :-/
I think that you are just a bit too kinky
I mean for context with the TikTok comparison using a VPN didn’t get you around the TikTok ban unless you also made an entirely new account.
That’s because they banned the accounts.
Anyone who has an account on pornhub deserves their ban.
Why? Making playlists and commenting gameplay is great
And sharing things with your family
Put the big booty on the good ol’ family screen and let’s wank together!
So, all the uploaders deserve a ban?
How about you just parent your children? But it’s not about the children, that’s just always the convenient excuse
Also, when in France, who needs porn when you have Eva Green?
Cringe, pls delete
She looks like the tired waitress from IHOP where dreams go to die
Out of the loop here, why did Pornhub leave France?
As one headline put it “PornHub pulls out of France”.
🤤
France passed a law requiring porn sites to verify age of all site visitors. Pornhub is blocking France instead of forcing its visitors to provide ID.
Age verification requirements.
wow, didn’t expect that from france. I thought they, of all countries, would be less prudish than Texas about porn. 😬
We have our own homegrown bigots, thank you
Everywhere has religious people that think they deserve to control others.
Texas isn’t the first. I think it was started by Germany? I know the UK banned women’s orgasms and Australia banned hentai. Heck, India apparently banned porn altogether, ineffectively.
Australia banned hentai
Did we? My scientific search the other night proves that false, and I’m not on VPN.
They banned the physical books, but they can’t really stop the internet
I know the UK banned women’s orgasms
Why? To prevent British women from having expectations?
Because female cum is urine according to the powers that be, and that’s too much for them.
Germany didn’t do anything like that. Britain tried to ban porn like this but realized it’s a terrible idea and stepped back from it.
Ironically, it was PornHub’s parent company that was set to run the UK age verification scheme.
I don’t understand, why not just open another porn website?
Brand loyalty
So funny thing about Aylo, which used to be called mind geek, they own quite a lot of porn sites. Probably 5 or 6 of the top ten.
You misunderstand, France didn’t block pornhub, pornhub blocked France.
It is to protest against a new law requiring porn site to verify the users age. Which they argue will have dire consequences for security and privacy (I fully agree about the danger)
They did the same in my puritanical US state that passed a similar law.
BTW, who even had the brilliant idea to block pr0n for French of all people?
You can say porn here on lemmy
But think of the children!!!
Because for the right, apparently saying porn or fuck or shit is bad for children, but people grooming the same children is fine.
But in all seriousness, being goomed by 2 people when I was not even 14 has done more damage to me than playing black ops 2 with all the graphic scenes on my Wii-U when I was 12, and trust me, in that game I have heard the word fuck more times than I could count back then
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You’re right
I heard that in Trekkie Monster’s voice.
Dr. Cox was right: “I’m fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there’d only be one website left, and it’d be called ‘Bring Back the Porn.'”
Bro’s name is Dr. Cocks
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Tumblr the Depraved?
I still miss og tumblr and my little porn account i had going there.
I hate how hard this made me laugh
Does oglaf count as porn?
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Scared to click, someone pls provide context
These are comics, often with a nsfw gag, it’s safe to click on, it’s very mild.
Lol, there’s even a warning. The first one I saw was fucking hilarious, thanks for the recommendation!
I had totally forgotten oglaf existed, thanks for the reminder!
Oh, she’s trying!
Anyone with more than two brain cells to click together could have told them this would happen. Some of them did. Not that they would/did listen.
Ah yes, chat control, the crackdown on encryption, backdoors, etc., all forgotten? So now thousands of French people are deliberately using VPNs for something that is now illegal. Well, the politicians won’t take advantage of this to take action against VPNs and encryption… To protect the children, of course…
