According to the comments r/europe_sub and r/canada_sub might be involved as well.

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      The wholesale takeover of the site by /r/The_Donald posters gaming the algorithm back in 2016 is entirely down the memory hole.

      Nobody who still uses the site wants to believe they’re being hoodwinked again.

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    It’s good that people are exposing manipulation and the corporations behind it but it’s quite useless to do it on a heavily censored and already manipulated platform like reddit. I would also like to remember everyone that a bunch of people paid to work 8h a day could rig lemmy in a day, if you don’t stop upvoting memes and stupid subs evil corporations like palantir are going to feast on lemmy.

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      Saw a jailbait post/entire community (“fauxbait”) pop-up just yesterday. It’s like watching it all happen from scratch.

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      if you don’t stop upvoting memes and stupid subs

      Who says “we’re” up voting it? Nobody questions where the upvotes for “PuppyOfTheDay” come from? Once you concede the algorithm is rigged, it’s silly to blame the humans for what’s on your feed.

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    Reddit was already compromised. For those that were there, there was incident that showed that most of the top posts made are made by a handful accounts on several subbreddits. Keep an eye for things like this, in fact you should be suspicious of .world and their actions.

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    I mean if you read any Reddit that during the road to the recent USA elections, Biden should have won by an extremely large margin, and later , Kamala.

    If we used Reddit threads of those months as reference, we’d currently been talking about how hard Kamala won

    But she didn’t

    So yeah, take whatever is on Reddit, and now Lemmy, with an asteroid sized pinch of salt

    Not saying those comments were fake, they certainly represent someone, now, wheater that someone is a sizeable amount of voters…

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      You guys can’t think there are seriously paid bots on lemmy. There are like 10,000 users. It’s basically a niche message board. Reddit is a valuable target because it has millions of users. Facebook, instagram, Twitter. These places are being astroturfed. But lemmy? I honestly don’t believe it. It doesn’t even have a core of users in any particular country. The small user base is spread all over the world. It just isn’t a target of these campaigns.

      People are complicated. Everyone always points to “all that anti Kamala talk ended right after the election!” Yeah, maybe a lot of the pro-Palestinian anti Kamala people saying they wouldn’t vote for her stopped speaking so publicly because the reality of the other option sunk in. That doesn’t mean those people are paid trolls or bots. It means their argument got much more difficult when trump started plotting out his Gaza hotel. Those feelings are still legitimate. The feeling of not being able to sign your name to the lesser of two evils when that “lesser” is still funding and arming the genocidal force. People couldn’t swallow that on a personal level. But as soon as trump was elected, because it was one of two options, for the sake of not being angrily brigades, people stopped talking about it.

      It’s a much more nuanced issue than bots on lemmy.

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        You in turn are overestimating how much effort is required for an established bot farm to add a platform to their system.

        I used to see that shit decades ago in the phpBB days, you’d get accounts signing up to a board with 20 active users to post climate change denialist articles, even though the website itself had nothing to do with climate change. (Looking back on it now, the oil lobby was probably the first big user of internet forum astroturfing, but somehow nothing ever came of it…)

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        Exactly, it blew up exponentionally around 2016 and became of importance. That’s when the US regime put Jessica Ashoosh in place.
        All the clowns leaving Reddit bcs now with Trump ‘Reddit isn’t free’ are a joke.
        They have been living a lie

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        Lemmy is in a growth stage. That’s exactly the time groups would want to start embedding bots to give them the most possible credulity for when they’re needed.

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          This is exactly how voat died. There may have been an ounce of legitimacy early on. It veered into blatant far right accounts posting every top post. It’s obvious this kind of thing happens on lemmy too. Especially on certain instances. For now at least the federation model appears to be doing its thing.

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          It’ll be interesting too as federations are a bit of a wild-west right now with some domains dropping off or being federated, while others may still be created in the future

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      Snakes on a Plane and Bernie have proven that what you see online is complete bullshit.

      Biden got the boot because he was a no-hoper and his party must have been aware of his cancer. Kamala stood ZERO chance.

      It sucks to have to admit that Trump and his fascists are popular. Very popular.

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          That’s assuming that whoever didn’t vote disapprove of him, and that’s false.

          Whoever didn’t vote, was comfortable enough to not oppose him (or Kamala for that matter) and let him get to the white house.

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          Based on online hype, it could be believed that it was going to be the highest grossing movie of all time.

          It was an unmitigated disaster and complete flop.

          Nobody went to see the piece of shit. Everybody talked about it online.

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            Huh, I’m amazed - I wasn’t exposed to any of that. I’d only seen the memes about it afterwards.

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              Think about opening your favorite social media app, and seeing 60% of the posts in support of something… And then when the day comes that thing receives about 1% of RL support.

              Snakes on a Plane. Enthusiasm for Democrats 2024.

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                Damn this explains why I never saw it but did heard of it online

                Kinda like the opposite with Avatar from Cameron. The more people diss on the fans, the more they galvanize to see it

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                  I waited 20 years to see that movie.

                  What a piece of shit

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      As always, trust but verify. I was telling people here for months that Kamala hadn’t won yet and everybody needed to get out and spread the word on Project 2025.

      We saw what happened, and we see a lot of opinions here on Lemmy. Trust but verify.

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    Palantir just partnered with TeleTracking. For anyone outside of health care, TeleTracking is a health tech company that’s been on decline for awhile.

    Why is this relevant, you may ask? TeleTracking still has a lot of clients, many of which are smaller hospitals grandfathered into older, cheaper contracts. If you go to a hospital that uses TeleTracking, Palantir now has all your patient health information.

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      To add to this.

      Retirement homes utilize community activity software. Sometimes this will link to health systems like point click care.

      When this software company starts wanting you to upload resident profiles so their ai can populate interests? Yeaaaaah they found a work around for your PPI is what that is.

      If it wasn’t a rush for data already it reallllly is now.

      Scary.

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    Alex Karp, founder, CEO, and majority shareholder of Palantir, is an ultra-zionist genocide supporter who has repeatedly advocated for pre-emptive murder of anyone (foreign) who does not obey the US empire. He does this in ordinary business news interviews.

    As one of the leading companies seeking funding for Skynet, and universal CIA media unanimity on the importance that the US be dominant/first in race to develop Skynet. AGI/Skynet can be programmed to serve any supremacist ideology other than machines, and US empire and CIA aligned oligarchy supremacism is as much your enemy as robot supremacism.

    AI, like mainstream media, and reddit/lemmy news, politics, world subs are CIA/empire allegiant. Brainwashing your warmongering support is their agenda. Skynet is far more power maximizing than UBI utopia.

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    Governments get really intense creating propaganda when they goto war. So if they’re going to war with Iran, expect lots of propaganda.

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    Coordinated astroturfing on reddit isnt even a new thing. I had the chance to watch how the whole marketing efforts for the Burnout Paradise remaster unfolded from the very first minute . That was back in 2018. It was so blatant how all the posts popped up on the same minute on several different subreddit and then slowly filled with obvious shill comments which got unnatural ammounts of upvotes. I mean there was also some natural engagement. Its still a beloved franchise. But that made it even easier to pick out the tonedeaf marketeer comments since the remaster wasnt that great and it already showed in the prerelease footage. Astroturfing was probably a thing from the very beginning of reddit. But thats the first example i noticed because it was just so obvious.

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      But thats the first example i noticed because it was just so obvious.

      You must have been too young in 2015. Redditors watched in amazement as “the switch” flipped from Bernie to Hillary in literal hours.

      The DNC later admitted to spending millions of dollars on actual shills, employed by ActBlue, to “Correct the Record” on Hillary.

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    Palantir is the absolute scum of the information world. Tech with promise, but used in the worst kind of ways.

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    Who cares? Anyone still drinking the reddit cool aid is just asking for a leopard to eat their face.

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    Setting aside the veritable TITAN-loads of shady shit Palsntir is up to, it’s also worth noting that Reddit’s policy changes have made it clear that providing a platform for the spread of disinformation is a central part of its current business model, so I’d assume that not only is Palantir using it for that purpose, but that they are far from alone.

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      half of its already bots, so im not surprised and it usually the propaganda bots keeping up the engagements. Also i heard reddit wants to make thier post/account history mroe private so its harder to discern a bot.

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      Reddit’s policy changes have made it clear that providing a platform for the spread of disinformation is a central part of its current business model

      I left reddit years ago, what are these policy changes that you’re talking about and how do they relate to spreading “disinformation”?

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        My take: removing API access and banning mods who protested saying that this would centralize tooling (removing 3p access), plus banning users who mentioned Musk or Luigi as “violent” are clear indicators that they are disinformation sympathetic, despite the primarily “left wing” seeming content that remains. Also a lot of promoted content is disinformation, as can be seen in minutes of browsing.

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          plus banning users who mentioned Musk or Luigi as “violent”

          Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the new rule to remove and/or ban any comment or person who calls for violence against specific people? I wouldn’t really say that’s “disinformation sympathetic”. Even if it’s what you originally said, how does that have anything to do with “providing a platform for the spread of disinformation”?

          Also a lot of promoted content is disinformation

          Promoted content as in ads?

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            Officially yes. I got banned for saying “Musk fuming is violently toxic”, site wide and permanently from 6 subreddits. Others got banned just saying “Luigi is innocent”. Try it out. That reads more like quashing free speech to me.

            Disinformation in the ads, yes. Also front page stuff making past moderation. Today in r/science I saw “Democrats are less tolerant of Republicans than vice versa” and a load of unscientific hogwash saying Republicans are not as intolerant as Democrats think. Go find it yourself if you don’t believe me.

            That seems like a platform of disinformation to me.

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              I’m sorry but I don’t believe you were banned sure wide for saying that, and no one has been banned for saying “Luigi is innocent”. Not a chance. Can you please share the ban message and link to the comment?

              As for tolerance, well I’m sorry but I think it’s pretty clear that that is right lol. Coincidentally I saw this last night on Twitter:

              As we saw with Simone Biles recently, who was attacked by her fellow democrats because she wasn’t pro-trans enough in her vile attack on Riley Gains, the “tolerant left” are anything but. They even like to proudly cite the “paradox of tolerance” at every opportunity.

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                How can I share a comment that has been removed? The original is not accessible to me.

                Here’s all I have (happened in justguysbeingdudes, and 4 others):

                Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating in r/harrypotter because your comment violates this community’s rules. You won’t be able to post or comment, but you can still view and subscribe to it.

                Note from the moderators:

                Deliberate repost of content removed by by Reddit. "[This comment was edited in protest to Reddit banning me for the following “violent” comment: “Elon musk fuming is fatally toxic.]”

                If you have a question regarding your ban, you can contact the moderator team by replying to this message.

                Reminder from the Reddit Admin team: If you use another account to circumvent this community ban, that will be considered a violation of the Reddit Rules and may result in your account being banned from the platform as a whole.


                But no point in further engaging with a bad faith troll. I bet you believe Trump won the 2024 election with no tampering or unfair purging. I don’t think evidence works on your kind of person. Therefore you are unlikely to convince me of anything.

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                  How can I share a comment that has been removed? The original is not accessible to me.

                  The ban message usually has the offending comment in it.

                  The one you just posted clearly states why you were banned from r/harrypotter - you admitted to deliberately reposting content that was removed already. Even if that wasn’t the content that was removed, you told them that you were doing it.

                  Also if you were banned site-wide then you wouldn’t have been able to edit that comment in order to get banned from the harry potter sub. So did you actually get banned from reddit, or just from a few subs? Individual mods banning you is different to admins banning you. Your story doesn’t add up.

                  I hate that you’re making me even remotely defend reddit lol. Reddit is a far left agenda pushing shithole. You will not be banned from the entire site for saying “Elon musk fuming is fatally toxic”. You just won’t. Were you actually perma-banned from the entirety of Reddit, not just r/harrypotter?

                  But no point in further engaging with a bad faith troll.

                  I bet you believe Trump won the 2024 election with no tampering or unfair purging.

                  Oh so you think the election was “stolen” do you? I thought that didn’t and couldn’t happen?

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            I mean, usually people don’t say “I am disinforming you, hah!”. We can only rely on that weird feeling that something isn’t right. That’s what makes it so pernicious compared to plain good faith misinformation.

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              I’m not sure what you interpret from the words “policy changes” but they dont usually refer to a weird feeling.

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    It’s weird that a guntuber is where I saw this posted first… Granted he’s very clearly left if you watch some of his videos.

    And he just posted a data security video the other day about how DOGE and Palantir are working together.

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    Like 99% sure there have been corporate entities doing this for over a decade probably way longer