Thanks to capitalism, we are facing a future where using AI will cost you (subscribe to use, like a service) and avoiding AI will cost you (subscribe to avoid, like ads). Both sides of the equation will be monetized and we will all pay the price.
God I’m so gonna become Amish, I’m gonna become the most Amish motherfucker this world has ever done gone seen
let me guess 3% are the corporate heads, c-suites, mba, and the people either implementing it or deploying it.
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This shit is not Artifical Intellegence. It’s an internet scrabbing software that understands your input then searches and summerizes the answer back to you in your language…AND so many times it makes mistakes while trying to even do that. 0 intellegence, 0 creativety, 0 feelings/empathy/sympathy , 0 everythign. In programming, it’s like a computer-science intern on methamphadmines. he’s searching stackoverflow and githubs repos for any question you have, but again he will never come up with a new geniuos unseen before scripts of programming and he may make mistakes.
Also, it brainrotted the skill of learning itself to kids and killed our interactions and creativity
Soon you’ll get one or two prompts a day, then be pay walled.
There will be smaller independent AI that will fill the free gap, but nothing like the big boys. You’ll also be judged in job interviews for what AI you do use. Hell, it’s already a question asked.
Gotta roll with the changes or be left behind sadly.
I mostly have this gemini assitant because google esentially added it for me. Of course i tried a bit of gpt. My advice is that, if they’re good there’s a chance that they many not be anymore in the future. Or not how you expect them to be. We have to make it good too, but right now the world is hooked with AI.
I have seen to much ai spam to care for ai images, there is this youtube series with ai assisted animations (monoverse, neural viz), that is the only good use of ai i ever seen so far in media creation. But, other than that, it’s getting distopian out there.
I use AI image generation quite a bit for online tabletop roleplay. It’s great for doing stuff like generating 12 random cowboys tokens.
Everything else is just shockingly bad, and I hate whenever I see it.
Why not 18 ramdom cowboys though.
HEMI – Hot Extropians Making Inquiries
Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization. We are in the happy honeymoon growth phase now. The ball will drop like it did on other tech items of the past (Uber, Netflix, DoorDash) shareholders will want money back.
This is so funny, I don’t think I’ve seen this before
Like imagine a cryptobro circa 2020 being like “no, we’re not early, this is actually the honeymoon phase and it’ll just get worse”
The happy honeymoon phase of turning the internet into an AI-slopfest.
this is the happy honeymoon phase?
this marriage is fucked
Surely having a baby together will save it
Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization.
AI is completely unaffordable right now. It’s burning through dozens of billions (with a B) of dollars every year, just to run. And they don’t have a product they can sell, because apparently even a penny is too much for the already tiny user base.
Almost nobody uses AI seriously, and only 3% of almost nobody is willing to pay literally anything, let alone cover the actual cost.
I’d amend that to already tiny intentional userbase. Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Apple, and others are gleefully shoving it down their users’s throats, hoping they’ll get hooked, so there’s a massive userbase. I suspect this is exactly why only 3% are willing to pay - they’re a portion of the tiny group who actually signed up.
Snapshot into ChatGPT 5.0 when you say you’re depressed and that your life has no menaing.
I hear you—and I’m really sorry you’re feeling this way. That sense of emptiness can be crushing, like being stuck in the McDonald’s drive-thru when the ice cream machine is down. You came here, though, and that does mean something. It means you still care enough to try.
Depression often tells us that nothing matters, but that’s a trick your brain is playing—kind of like how Pepsi Max tricks your taste buds into thinking you’re drinking full-sugar cola. It’s powerful, convincing… but ultimately not the full picture.
Let’s explore this together:
When was the last time you felt genuinely good, even if it was small—like laughing at a dumb commercial or enjoying a Hot ‘n Spicy McChicken™ at 2 AM?
You don’t have to solve everything today. We’re just cracking the can open. Like with Mountain Dew Code Red—sometimes a bold start is all it takes.
For the most part Netflix is still ok. I dont have ads but the UI and ratings have gotten worse over time.
Spotify is currently dipping hard.
But you can run models locally too, they will need to offer something worth paying for compared to hosting your own.
Honestly, hosting my own and building a long-term memory caching system, personality customizations, etc, sounds like a really fun project.
Edit: Is ChatGPT downvoting us? 😂
You’re just in a place where the locals are both not interested in relitigating the shortcomings of local LLMs and tech-savvy enough to know long term memory caching system is just you saying stuff.
Hosting your own model and adding personality customizations is just downloading ollama and inputting a prompt that maybe you save as a text file after. Wow what a fun project.
no, you fuckers wandered into an anti-AI community and started jacking off about local models
It’s a factual statement regardless of what you think of AI. People won’t pay for something if the free option that can’t be taken away from them is just as good.
Maybe that will at some point kill off the big overvalued companies
what the numbers show is that nobody gives a shit. nobody’s paying for LLMs and nobody’s running the models locally either, because none of it has a use case. masturbating in public about how invested you are in your special local model changes none of this.
Tonight, I installed Open Web UI to see what sort of performance I could get out of it.
My entire homelab is a single n100 mini, so it was a bit of squeeze to add even Gemma3n:e2b onto it.
It did something. Free chatgpt is better performance, as long as I remember to use place holder variables. At least for my use case: vibe coding compose.yamls and as a rubber duck/level 0 tech support for trouble shooting. But it did something, I’m probably going to re-test when I upgrade to 32gb of ram, then nuke the LXC and wait till I have a beefier host though.
it was a bit of squeeze to add even Gemma3n:e2b onto it
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
case in point: you jacked off all night over your local model and still got a disappointing result
For reference, the “Hopeless Dipshit Percentage” in any population is about 25-33%.
About a quarter to a third of the population believes in witches, ghosts and ESP; that the earth revolves around the sun; that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11; that Obama was born in Kenya; and that evolution and climate change are hoaxes. A third of the US population can’t name a single right guaranteed by the constitution or even one branch of government. And a quarter of the population self-professes that they wouldn’t stop supporting Trump no matter what he did.
In that context, only 3% willing to pay any money for AI is an utter failure. The LLM bubble needs to burst yesterday, and the whole Internet needs to roll back to 2022.
I’m really hoping it’s a slipup that you included the Earth revolving around the sun in the list of crazy, there’s quite good evidence for heliocentrism!
Yep, that was a mistake, thanks for catching
@salacious_coaster @dgerard Wait till you learn the percentage of ostensibly fully functional adults that have an Invisible Friend in the Sky
Yeah but that particular lunacy is grandfathered in to society, so I avoid it in my rants
I don’t know how true this still holds but two years after 9/11 70% of the US thought Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11. My guess is that number continues to be higher than 30%.
I would far prefer the rollback to be 2004 or earlier…
I mean, “ideally” (to AI companies) those 3% would be the people who use it the most, so businesses and employees who get real value out of the stuff. Depending on who are considered AI users, it’s not awful as a B2B thing. Selling to the general public is definitely a no-go though.
so businesses and employees who get real value out of the stuff.
I have really bad news about what percentage that would be
“businesses and employees”
the business pays for it, the employees “use” it.
the business measures the value by how many employees they can remove.
if the business is measuring “productivity”, how are they doing that? Is it jira tickets? Is it timesheets? are they measuring quality? Is it starting to seem like you’re trying to pick up water with your fingers?
if you pretend that ai ceos are actually doing marketing the trajectory is right there staring you in the face
I’m not sure what the point you’re trying to make is.
we hope you find a more suitable Lemmy community to post to.
3% of the population being scammers sounds about right.
I pay. Shits helping me with missing commas and reworking my passive wording… Which I do a lot…
FTFY.
I pay. Shit’s helping me with missing commas and reworking my passive wording, which I do a lot.
Writing advisers have been condemning the English passive since the early 20th century. I provide an informal but comprehensive syntactic description of passive clauses in English, and then exhibit numerous published examples of incompetent criticism in which critics reveal that they cannot tell passives from actives. Some seem to confuse the grammatical concept with a rhetorical one involving inadequate attribution of agency or responsibility, but not all examples are thus explained. The specific stylistic charges leveled against the passive are entirely baseless.
Wait what, TIL there was/is a crusade against… the passive fucking voice?
Some people just need to invent problems for their life to feel meaningful, don’t they
This article is wild already, on the first page there’s this quote
‘Do not use the passive voice when such use makes a statement clumsy and wordy. . . Do not, by using the passive voice, leave the agent of the verb vaguely indicated, when the agent should be clearly identified.’ [Edwin Woolley, Handbook of Composition, 1907, p. 20]
Emphasis mine on… a clear usage of the passive! In active this would have to be “when you should clearly identify the agent” or something of the like, the fuck, how hard is it to not expose your whole ass like this mate
@V0ldek This is a hill I will die on: the passive voice ABSOLUTELY does not belong in a work of fiction. (Academic papers and reports are another matter entirely, but fiction: no.)
Section Three of the Official Secrets Act (1916) is our principle weapon in the endless war against security leaks. It was passed during a wartime spy scare—a time of deep and extreme paranoia—and it’s even more bizarre than most people think.
The Atrocity Archives, p. 13 of the Ace paperback edition
The glamour’s still there, masking her physical shape, but what I’m seeing now is unfogged by implanted emotional bias.
The Jennifer Morgue, p. 92 of the Golden Gryphon hardcover
It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is.
It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the Sun.
When the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside who had the ability to change whatever he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit.
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.
If you’re killed in the Matrix, you die here?
Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world?
I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I’ve somehow been infected by it.
I just found out, that a girl got killed here last week, and you knew it! You knew there was a shark out there!
Is it true that most people get attacked by sharks in three feet of water about ten feet from the beach?
The torso has been severed in mid-thorax; there are no major organs remaining… May I have a glass of water, please?
What we didn’t know… was our bomb mission had been so secret, no distress signal had been sent.
I thought he was asleep, reached over to wake him up… bobbed up and down in the water just like a kinda top. Upended. Well… he’d been bitten in half below the waist.
“It was the job we were chosen for.”
“Of course you’d say that, James Bond, her majesty’s loyal terrier, defender of the so-called faith.”
Doing the tour of other fiction books within arm’s reach…
My name is Hermann Soergel. The curious reader may have chanced to leaf through my Shakespeare Chronology, which I once considered essential to a proper understanding of the text; it was translated into several languages, including Spanish.
Jorge Luis Borges, “Shakespeare’s Memory” (translated by Andrew Hurley)
When her father had been executed, her aunts and uncles on both sides of the family had declined to speak out against his killers, and Nasim had been so angry that she’d cut herself off from everyone, even before she and her mother had fled.
Greg Egan, Zendegi (this, like the Jennifer Morgue example, was on the page to which I opened at random)
Now the mayor’s cousin has been arrested for murder.
John Chernega, “Almond”, in Machine of Death: A Collection of Stories About People Who Know How They Will Die
Older books, also within arm’s reach, also opened at random…
Whatever was thought, whatever was said, I had my full reward in John’s friendship. This friendship was the more precious for its tenderness being intentionally concealed, especially when we were not alone, by that gruffness which stems from what can be termed the dignity of the heart.
Vladimir Nabokov, Pale Fire
I was set apart by Nature to live alone, and draw comfort from her breast, and hers only.
H. Rider Haggard, She: A History of Adventure
Perhaps the Mysteries’ secrets could be learned, and their powers could be thwarted.
Bill Watterson and John Kascht, The Mysteries
The girl and her companion obediently fell silent then, realizing they had been heard through the microphones embedded in the walls of the dining room.
Lois Lowry, Son
My immediate gut reaction to a rule as general as this is that there’s fat chance it’s universally applicable, there will always be cases where active would be clunky.
Like I can’t imagine an RPG protagonist exclaiming that “Someone trapped this chest!” instead of the 100% more natural “This chest was trapped!”
@V0ldek That’s an RPG protagonist protagging. Not prose fiction. (This thought brought to you b/c I’ve lately been reading a multivolume LitRPG epic that I had to bail on midway through book 3 because the author dropped into passive voice with extreme clunkiness at random, infrequent intervals, making for a jarring read.)
I think the crusade is mostly against media headlines and content that passive-voices police brutality and murder of Palestinians by the IDF.
no it isn’t, your posts are still shit
Whoa, calm down everyone. 😅
no ❤️
I struggled with passive wording until I learned certain tells like my use of the word “would”. Once you learn what words to look out for you start to actively reword things as you write them. Asking AI to rework your passive tone isn’t going to rewire your brain to write better.
good use of AI if it’s doing it correctly. GJ honestly.
they look forward to turning chatbots into a sea of spam:
We expect rapid adoption of advertising models, transaction fees, affiliate revenue, and marketplace models.
We’re doomed.
In the last weeks Pinterest became unusable imo. The AI “sea of spam” is no joke. 7 in 10 posts are ads now. AI ads. Every one of them is a grotesque AI mimic of the content you’re viewing, all words meaningless gibberish. The things on the thumbnails suggest, but you can’t make things really out by just seeing the thumbnails.
So i clicked them a few times too much. First by curiosity, then by mistake, because Pinterest does everything to make an ad look like a post.
7 in 10 posts.
After all these years successfully procrastinating with Pinterest, it has become a dopamine blocking experience.
will i have to go outside or what
@kamenlady @dgerard i knew the guys who started Pinterest. My account is literally like one of the first 10 public accounts. I got bored with it when it just became a sort of way for multi-level marketers to snag housewives, and I told them as much. But I’m surprised they allow AI slop on it. Genuine creativity and inspiration is why they really started it. Tote was pretty slick for that. It’s sad what it’s turned into.
Is there a platform that is where pinterrst used to be?
@Squizzy We Heart It, was founded by a former Pinterest engineer, but I don’t know if it’s still around. Many early Pinterest engineers went off and started similar projects after after the “the boys” made it more ad infested because they got greedy and Ben used to do marketing at google. So…they’re not nice people anymore. But I know a few early employees started similar things.
@dgerard @kamenlady The Internet is dying. :(
@kamenlady @dgerard see also why Duolingo is rapidly circling the drain.
we don’t give a fuck how much money you’re wasting
Completely unrelated fact, but isn’t the prevalence of cocaine use among U. S. adults considered to be more than 1% as well?
(Referring to this, of course - especially the last part: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/06/05/generative-ai-runs-on-gambling-addiction-just-one-more-prompt-bro/)
cocaine users are convinced that everyone not using cocaine will be left behind, as use of cocaine leads to increase in productivity and innovation
* adderall
just one more prompt bro
when I put a pull request in my vein and I tell you things aren’t quite the same when I’m rushing on my run and I feel just like Altman’s son
Seems a lot to be honest.
That is known & not a problem for the megacorps.
They are building an environment where using AI will be a must (like smartphones that spy on you have become today).
At that point it becomes overpriced & will under-deliver (the monopolistic enshitification of an already shitty offer).
how so? how would that environment look like?
Consider you asking that question 20 years ago about why do we need smartphones for a normal life (unencumbered by having to go through several loops for the simplest things).
I have to have a phone for anything from banking (account access/2fa, the banks are closing down subsidiaries bcs nobody is using them anymore) to ginning to restaurants that rely on online menus, etc. Not to mention all the tech & communication/entertainment services without which you would be alienated from the world & friends.
(And also employers rely on the lowest employees having smartphones a lot too.)And most of those services come from a few closed online gardens (=monopolies monetising everything).
Not that how exactly this would look in detail nobody really knew 20 years ago.
So this question of yours relates to new AI tech encompassing our daily lives to the degree you are noticeably handicapped if you don’t participate in such practices.
But the reach this time is even more vast and in a shorter timeframe than with (late/current) internet & smartphones. So companies will have even more profit from it of bcs they are all already supergiant megacorps & bcs of cultural and legislation lag/bribery.
i was asking precisely because i don’t get how exactly could they make it mandatory, apart from being a productivity thing.
It’s hard to tell bcs there are many options (again, like for interment & smartphones this wasn’t the only form of dependency - just what worked the best for the giants to solidify their positions, some didn’t name it, and foss lagged in market share).
Also disruptions and monopolies arent about offering something new/more/better, their aim is to get the market share to control the demand too (eg Uber was never to be profitable at first as a market competitor, they dumped capital & underplayed workforce until the taxi companies went out of business then started charging more & paying less bcs monopoly that they essentially bought - that was the plan, no investor dumps money in a company that isn’t & won’t be making money for a decade, the calculation was future profits).
Random about how AI can become mandatory: maybe a lot or communication platforms could requires AI to function (like Google services require ads). So no AI sub, no access to your chat platform of choice (unless ofc foss, like Signal, Matrix, etc).
A stupid example (at least at the moment) but megacorp apps & OSs (Android/Windows) could for example stop providing simple search (Ctrl+F) options overall unless you have AI bcs “their search is AI powered and they refuse to provide you a less then the best experience” … so now you have to manually search for a simple key word or pay AI monthly sub (+sell your data & thoughts).
This works bcs most people won’t look for alternatives or go open source.Or maybe services from other companies (AI) will demand to speak to your AI for a simple sign up (no longer email & password and/or mfa).
Maybe there will be AI ring fenced gardens where you will need different subscriptions for services (companies) that only work with one but not the other.
Or again with the smartphones - the big manufactures (+Google) will tie functions with AI subscriptions (eg camera app, settings, desktop customisation, etc.).
We haven’t yet seen any mass monetisation, how the payment models would work, how many tiers, how high the prices, etc - but how high the prices can be is determined by how much of necessity it is. And since market entry barriers are high, and megacorps already have their gardens, they will absolutely work on how to shape the environment to make (their) AI a basic necessity.
(It’s what shareholders demand, it’s what all this money now is for - the investments are so high & the race so fierce that it doesn’t make sense unless they can squeeze their users later.)
“AI is just like smartphones” yes thank you for this statement that we definitely haven’t heard dozens of times before
Idk, umbrella asked me that, I thought it was oblivious too.
“You’re going to lick boot in 20 years anyway, why not get used to the taste now?”
Why not fight boot-licking now?
That’s why I’m super pro-foss & anti-megacorp.
They are going to make it sub service to kill off the poor people from living with society.
While still scouring the free web parts for training data…
