• @[email protected]
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    1816 days ago

    Remember the days when an openly racist comment like this would mean the end of your political career?

    • peregrin5
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      1206 days ago

      For Republicans it actually boosts their poll numbers.

      People want to be openly racist again. That’s what MAGA really means.

      • @[email protected]
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        106 days ago

        People want to be openly racist again. That’s what MAGA really means.

        And on this one should think a bit further and realize that any action causes a reaction.

        Maybe outright socially punishing racism shouldn’t have been the focus, and instead more effort should have been spent making sure more people know how, well, genetics work and also dream of stuff not involving racial difference, like future space travel or peaceful united humanity, that kind of thing. So that they’d make their own conclusions and have their own wishes.

        So - they are tired of “the establishment” not making anything better, and that means they are also tired of some rules of public decency associated with that establishment. One of the reasons MAGA activism looks so gross - they want it to look gross. Because “gross” is not like that picture of “respectable politics”, so already better.

        In general studying psychology of people who are your opponents is beneficial. And especially hard when you can’t make yourself respect them.

        • growsomethinggood ()
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          416 days ago

          Nothing quite like logging onto lemmy and reading the most “if minorities were nicer then people would be less racist” victim blaming comment. No, there is no world in which minorities rolling over and gently teaching misguided racists gets them equal rights. We have a systemic issue in the US where the right has been defunding education and pushing vitriolic rhetoric for decades. Minorities should not need to prove their humanity at every turn just to stay alive, nevertheless participate in politics.

          • @[email protected]
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            235 days ago

            Right, chase all racists back under their rock for another generation. They are openly declaring they do not wish to participate in our society when they speak that way.

            • @[email protected]
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              25 days ago

              They can chase you, idiot! Racists and other kinds of such are always the majority of people actually caring to apply force.

              They are now assraping your country because they were chased under a rock for a generation. That’s the whole bloody reason!

              • @[email protected]
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                75 days ago

                What are you even saying? There is no statement in your statement.

                Were anti-lynching laws a mistake? Was assertive anti-racist education a mistake?

                It sounds to me as if you advocate capitulation.

                • @[email protected]
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                  What are you even saying? There is no statement in your statement.

                  There is.

                  Were anti-lynching laws a mistake?

                  No.

                  Was assertive anti-racist education a mistake?

                  Some of it - may be.

                  It sounds to me as if you advocate capitulation.

                  No, I advocate not hurting the definitely noble cause by actions clearly harmful. Force-feeding people something is a sure way to make them resist.

                  Anti-racist education shouldn’t be busy with throwing something people don’t believe into their faces. That absolutely never works, and the reason some other people want to do that is to assert dominance. They don’t have dominance to assert, they are bitches.

                  Knowledge of genetics (school biology level) is by itself a lot of what’s needed to discard racism as an approach.

                  Knowledge of history, economics and why social mobility matters are by themselves a lot of what’s needed to discard segregation as an approach.

                  Empathy too. Mark Twain and Harriet Beecher Stowe are in your school curriculum, are they not?

          • @[email protected]
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            15 days ago

            Why did you type all that instead of actually reading my comment?

            I mean, this is the best kind of illustration I could get for education allowing people to make right decisions and against pressure to behave.

            You clearly lack said education and apparently think you can apply pressure.

            Nothing I said has anything to do with minorities.

            • growsomethinggood ()
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              45 days ago

              I did read your comment, that is why I responded the way I did. If you can’t link that minorities are the ones affected by racism, I don’t think that you should be commenting on racial politics in the US.

              • @[email protected]
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                14 days ago

                You don’t seem to be able to separate your own logic from the context of my conclusions, implicitly assuming either my context is the same, or it’s my fault if it’s not.

                In other words, you are unprepared for any intelligent discussion, which your first reply shows well enough.

                So much for who should be opening their mouth or touching their keyboard on whichever subject.

          • Miles O'Brien
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            145 days ago

            It’s right up there with “if you stopped acting so gay you wouldn’t get bullied”

          • peregrin5
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            125 days ago

            Right? I can’t believe this person seriously responded to my comment with that bullshit. And people are upvoting him.

              • @[email protected]
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                75 days ago

                Loving how every reply is being met with a “you can’t read!” instead of explaining wherever you believe the disconnect may be. It’s not you that’s wrong, it’s every person who’s replying to your comment that “doesn’t know how to read”

                If only they knew how to read you could save yourself so much exasperation.

                Seriously though, spell it out for us dunces in the back. What is everyone missing here?

                • @[email protected]
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                  15 days ago

                  instead of explaining wherever you believe the disconnect may be

                  I’ve literally said that. People thinking the reason for racists raising their heads is because they are not forced sufficiently harshly to thing and talk the right way - these people are complete idiots, or fixing the actual problem is not what they really want from the subject.

                  It’s not you that’s wrong, it’s every person who’s replying to your comment that “doesn’t know how to read”

                  This is incorrect, I’ve met some capable.

                  Seriously though, spell it out for us dunces in the back. What is everyone missing here?

                  You bunch of jerks are not “everyone”. See my answer to the first quote.

        • peregrin5
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          205 days ago

          You lost me at “not socially punishing racism”.

          Sorry but GTFOH with your racism apologism.

          Republicans are also cutting education so fat chance getting these people educated also.

          • @[email protected]
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            And that’s why you deserve whatever you get, because you are not even capable of properly reading a thought wiser than your whole fucking life, without even any pressure being put on you.

            I said that if you punish people, they don’t go all “sorry uncle, I won’t do that again”, they go all “fuck you motherfucker, I’m getting a gun”. Is that clear?

            So punishing anyone anywhere is a bad idea by default, there are very specific cases when there’s no better solution. Mostly when the other side can only be stopped by force.

            • growsomethinggood ()
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              65 days ago

              Have you considered that your perspective on the matter could be skewed by your own inability to take critique maturely? Most adults are able self-reflect and grow as people from interactions with others of differing perspectives. It’s only a small percentage who react violently, and frankly, they are bullies who should not be catered to.

              • @[email protected]
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                14 days ago

                Have you considered that your own level of discussion might not be worth holding emotions inside wasting effort?

    • @[email protected]
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      476 days ago

      I feel like the US is more like a Second World country. By “Second World”, I mean the countries that are more aligned to Russia than to NATO. That description now fits the US, unfortunately.

    • @[email protected]
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      A country that has no national healthcare, a life-style of economic struggle and a dictator for a leader? Hmmmm.

  • theprogressivist
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    Republican Representative Brandon Gill has told New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani to “go back to the Third World” in response to a video of him eating with his hands.

    I guess this asshole has never eaten a burger, chicken, hot dog etc. Fucking racist piece of shit.

    • @[email protected]
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      In Russia it was impolite, actually, to eat chicken not with your hands. Can’t say why, maybe it’s the possibility of bones splitting and flying away, and maybe it’s that some of the meat remains on the bones, so some visible food gets thrown out. As a kid I would sometimes get looks (making my hands oiled and dirty I don’t like, being autistic and just because it’s inconvenient).

      In any case I’m not sure someone’s eating habits affect their politics, unless demonstrating lack of basic hygiene or involving cannibalism.

      • Miles O'Brien
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        55 days ago

        I will happily eat macaroni or soup with my hands for the rest of my life if that means everyone gets Healthcare.

    • @[email protected]
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      Brandon Gill does, in fact, look like the kind of person who would eat a burger with a knife and fork.

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      I might start eating Doritos with a fork and knife just to be extra “civilized”.

  • @[email protected]
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    Ask a MAGAt to name a third world country. Instead of naming one they will name the country of the race they hate the most.

  • 100
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    remember, the super rich are the enemy of the people, not your fellow citizens from different backgrounds

    • Miles O'Brien
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      285 days ago

      I have more in common with a homeless person in Somalia, India, or China than I do with the super rich.

      No War Except Class War

    • @[email protected]
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      15 days ago

      It feels like this slogan is only repeated in left spaces, which then feels like a leftist version of centrists throwing trans people under the bus to chase conservatives. The people who are the primary purveyors of petty hate need to be the priority for the message before anyone on the left is going to feel like preaching tolerance for intolerance is anything but a way to smuggle bigotry into left political spaces.

    • @[email protected]
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      The “first world” was defined as US and their allies, 2nd world as USSR and their allies and 3rd world as no aligned. Now, US is run by Russian assets trying to replicate the third Reich. So I guess it should be second world instead?

  • @[email protected]
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    Yeah if he doesn’t win the election after these attacks then the US has passed the point of no return. If even New Yorkers are too stupid to fall for this smear campaign then the US can’t be saved.

  • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)
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    256 days ago

    His father in law is Dinesh D’Souza, the conspiracy theories guy. And like so many other hypocritical Republicans, is an immigrant who became a citizen in '91 after coming here with his parents and attending school here.

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    I have nothing to say about Brandon Gill except of course: try to make it look like an accident.

  • @[email protected]
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    Gill married Danielle D’Souza, the daughter of conservative political commentator Dinesh D’Souza, in 2017. They have two children and live in Flower Mound, Texas.

    So Gill’s father and wife are okay but a foreigner with differing political opinions is crossing the line?