• @[email protected]
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        See, I dunno about that one. I have a very strange and almost primal urge to feed kids. I think it’s generic programming.

        • @[email protected]
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          It took me a while to learn to control my rising angst when my son started deciding he didn’t want to eat much some days. Had to learn to trust what he’s saying and play it cool with bargaining with him to try things he’s decided he suddenly doesn’t like and eat just a few of the key food groups he hasn’t eaten before deciding he’s full.

          • Dale
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            Same, there are few things more stressful to me than when my daughter doesn’t eat. Learning to be okay with a sorry dinner is a process I’m still going through

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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    Socks keep your shoes from absorbing sweat and help prevent blisters. They’re useful beyond the social construct.

    • @[email protected]
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      Arguments like these don’t work with kids. Let them experience themselves what is best for them. And have spare socks ready in case they change their mind afterwards

      • osaerisxero
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        Sure, if that’s a reasonable option, but letting the kid hurt themselves isn’t always practical. Letting the kids find out ‘messing with the pot of boiling water is bad’ the hard way, as an example, is not what I would consider good parenting.

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          I think it’s pretty clear they’re referring to uncomfortable stuff, not dangerous stuff. Obviously don’t let them do dangerous stuff.

          • @[email protected]
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            Exactly. Always protect your little ones. It is okay if they experience negative consequences, as long as it doesn’t harm them.

            Trying to drink from a glass of water and get fully soaked is okay, even if the experience is not entirely positive.

            Touching a hot oven is not okay. Here you have to protect them. The best you can do is try to explain why it is not okay to touch it.

      • @[email protected]
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        Even if the argument doesn’t persuade them at the time it still makes sense to point it out to them so that they are (hopefully) aware of it later.

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          Fully agree. Always verbalize your thoughts and intentions. Give the kids the ability to learn.

    • @[email protected]
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      Ok but wearing shoes is a social construct. People didn’t wear shoes for thousands of years before shoes came along and they were just fine and full of blisters.

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      I don’t know what the social aspect is apart from how the socks appear, but this isn’t why they exist.

      Edit: Damn. Some of you are threatened by not knowing what a social construct is but really want to argue about socks instead of asking DDG so you can understand wtf is going on before leaving a comment.

      I’d be proud of this shit show, OP 🤣

      • vortic
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        I love when people say “ackchyually you’re wrong” without offering an alternative.

        • @[email protected]
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          Replying to wrong comment?

          You’ll have to explain otherwise, since it makes no sense based on what I said.

        • @[email protected]
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          1016 days ago

          if you didn’t wear socks then you’ll have to wash your shoes daily or risk getting something like a yeast infection of the foot or athletes foot.

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          Warmth, protection, hygiene.

          If you were born the only person on earth, you would eventually have something like socks on your own accord. This is function, not social. They wouldn’t be Xmas themed though, since no society exists to have invented Xmas and to show off your socks to.

          Social constructs are, by definition, ideas or concepts.

          • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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            The guy they found frozen in a glacier in the Alps had grasses stuffed into his moccasins as primitive socks.

  • @[email protected]
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    Something being a social construct doesn’t mean it’s not real, or ignoring it won’t negatively affect you.

    Laws, money, etc. are all social constructs.

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      And, while it’s good to challenge dumb social constructs, you should pick your battles. Nobody can fight all dumb social constructs at the same time. Is wearing socks really where you want to focus your energy?

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    Good point, kid, and here’s another one: those toys you want me to buy you are a social construct. Playtime? Yep. Social construct. Shall I keep going? Video games are next.

  • @[email protected]
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    Parents feeding their kids is also a social construct. The Ancients tossed their kids in the salt mines quite early.

      • @[email protected]
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        You see, in this world there’s two kinds of children, my friend: Those with Playstation 5s and those who dig.

    • Case
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      I mean, if you have daughters send em to the work the corner. Probably a much better ROI if you can overlook being your daugher’s pimp.

      Sadly, the younger the daughter, probably the better ROI both over time and initially. Now I feel gross for recognizing that evil exists in this world as more than just a concept, some people embody it.

  • @[email protected]
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    I let my kid go all flower child about the socks. he got athletes foot. Socks SPECIFICALLY are not a social construct. they prevent athletes foot.

    • @[email protected]
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      Hygiene IS a social construct, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t there for a good reason.

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            hygiene, engaging in a practice until hygienic, is a construct. the act of scrubbing your skin might not be

          • @[email protected]
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            I’d say hygiene is a construct. From that wiki article:

            As mind-dependent objects, concepts that are typically viewed as constructs include the abstract objects designated by such symbols as 3 or 4, or words such as liberty or cold as they are seen as a result of induction or abstraction that can be later applied to observable objects or compared to other constructs.

            With this in mind, hygiene itself cannot be seen directly, and thus abstract. We can see the effects of hygiene (such as a clean body, lack of body odor, or opposite of hygiene, such as athlete’s foot or other diseases), but we cannot see hygiene itself.

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        That’s only if you include pointless hygiene like shaving legs and armpits. You’ll legit get skin issues, infections, and possibly attract pests if you don’t wash your ass.

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    Socks have a practical use, they wick sweat away from your feet - this is practical in low temps where you will wear a cotton sock with a wool sock on top of it

  • @[email protected]
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    Nick sounds like a dipshit if he can’t figure out how to argue against socks being a social construct.

    • @[email protected]
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      Alright kid, do you know what isn’t a social construct? Foot fungus. You know what prevents foot fungus, and fungus that literally eats your skin and enlarges your toenails 3 times their normal height from the bed of your nail and is incredibly hard to treat and cure? The social construct of dry socks.

      At this point you Google pictures of athlete’s feet, toenail fungus, and open the yeast you bought yesterday and make them smell it.

  • @[email protected]
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    Very, good. That’s correct. However social constructs have consequences for non-adherence. As much as I agree with and wold like to support your stance, this is not something for which I’m willing to invest my energy or time to resolve.

    Your compliance and the requirement from me, the adult, to you the child; yep, this sucks. When I’m no longer charged with your care and have completed my duty to prepare you to operate with the constructs of society, you may make this decision for yourself.

    Until that time, you can put your socks on, or I will. Your choice. Love you.

    In the other vein of this, I hate sock and shoes, so I’m pretty much good with skipping all of this. There are consequences that come with that decision too.

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    Having a parent who clothes and feeds you is a social construct too. Funny how people think that “social construct” means that something is bad or should be dismissed when none of us would be here without social constructs.

    At least this time the argument is being made by the only age group where I would give them a pass for being stupid. Unless that kid is past the age of 12, that is.

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      I think the point is the fact it’s a social construct on its own is neither pro or against the thing itself, rather that it can/should be able to be questioned.

      Yes wearing socks is a social construct, but it provides inherent benefits such as reducing the smell produced by your feet and lingering in the shoes. It also helps protect your feet further in some ways then just a shoe alone would.

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        Sure, things should be questioned, but 9 out of 10 times where I have seen someone bring up social construct as an argument it has always been negative, always used to dismiss the so-called social construct. I can’t really recall a single time where it has been used by people who weren’t going through a rebellious phase where it’s all about being a contrarian and rarely about being genuinely curious about the validity of this and that social construct. Sometimes I have also seen things that are objectively not social constructs being labeled social constructs so I have a hard time taking it seriously when it’s brought up.

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          Yeah I don’t disagree that a lot of the time, especially when used by kids or edge lords it’s moreso just a way to try to end conversation, but I do think it’s worth having that discussion when it comes up if they’re in good faith.

          Like here the op should absolutely explain why it is a social construct instead of what it appears they’re implying they do which is just… Either give up or probably force the kid to do it anyway without explaining.

          I was one of those kids who always asked why and most adults just wanted me to shut the fuck up. 🤷‍♂️ I definitely also was an edge lord in my teens and grew out of that for the most part, but throughout I didn’t lose my curiosity.

          I think a lot of kids have that curiosity beaten out of them unfortunately and we should try to encourage it more. Idk tho I swore off having kids

          • @[email protected]
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            Definitely. I also think that this specific sock case is pretty innocent and a good excuse to have a stimulating discussion with the kiddo about it. I also don’t get why the parent appeared to have just given up, because I do think that one of the most fun conversations I have ever had have been when I talked with kids about how the world works and they ask me questions where I have to think before answering.

            And I am completely agreeing with you that it is worth talking about if people are in good faith. It was just never something I came across in the wild a few years back. It was, as you said, always used as a way to end a discussion and actually to get people to not question anything. It’s a social construct, ergo it is bad and questioning why it’s supposedly bad makes you a bigot. So I just have a very ingrown adverse reaction to that term whenever I see it.

            Sucks that your inquisitive nature was dampened, but honestly, I think it’s one of the great things we can do for ourselves in adulthood - keep asking questions and find the answers ourselves. I went through a weird knowledge-gathering phase for a few years while working on a worldbuilding project. Got into things I would have never thought about otherwise. Just constant questions about how this and that works, what is this, what is that? Why are things like this? Who does this and that in society? How are continents formed? Where does coffee grow any why? Do dreadlocks remain dreadlocks as they grow? (They do) How were languages formed? How were alphabets formed? How are parasites beneficial to the ecosystem? Can you surgically change a person’s eye color? (You can) How did the Ottoman Empire fall and why? Would gooseberry lollipops be popular with kids? How long does it take to bake bread in a volcano? How old is the oldest tree in the world? (That’s how I learned about Prometheus and the infuriating end to a 5000+ year long lifespan because one stupid university graduate decided that cutting it down for science was more important than letting it live).

            Yadda yadda yadda. Honestly, it becomes kind of addictive once you get going with these types of questions. It’s a lot of fun. I hope you still ask questions, my friend! Don’t let that part of you die 🤗

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              Right on!

              Luckily I ignored everyone telling me to stop and once I got the internet… Yeah similar to your paragraph lol the rabbit hole of how and why is deep!

              • @[email protected]
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                So glad to hear it! And yes, oh God, how deep that rabbit hole goes! What are some crazy/interesting places you have ended up?

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                  I’ve never really had many techy friends/family members so that’s where a large amount of my own research/rabbit holes usually go lol.

                  Like a few months ago I did a whole home server/homelab setup with proxmox several LXCs etc just from a desire to learn. I found Linux way back at age 12 but didn’t really dig too far beyond being able to sit in the corner of our empty house so I could reach my neighbors shared wifi and watch anime/Yt (laptop literally did not function on windows XP when it was gifted to my dad for comparison lol)

                  Powerautomate for work has been a great time sink and a ton to learn there still and I’m learning how to do sysadmin and web coding things as well.

                  For like rando interesting facts, it’s hard because without a trigger I can’t usually just come up with a fact even though I might have gone down a 20+tab Wikipedia rabbit hole in a subject haha

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        Yeah often “x is a social construct” as an argument means “you’re treating it as if its immutable and a given”

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    This would be a great time to remind him that we live in a society…