nowhere more than in the us. Ugh these flag wavers. If you want pride in the country the country first has to act and function in a way that elicits pride!
the country first has to act and function in a way that elicits pride!
ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you
to you. Seriously though. Every time I see a god bless america it annoys me. America be worthy of gods blessing.
It annoys me too, as an American. Particularly one who doesn’t believe in the Judeo-Christian god, or any god for that matter.
It’s just religious chauvinism.
The patriotic thing to do now is fly them upside down.
Thats how I wear the little one on my black armband at protests. Definately in distress.
I think a lot about something I read years ago. It said something like, “Some people love their country the way a child loves a parent. The parent is the smartest and the best and perfect. Some people love their country the way an adult loves a peer. They see the strengths, the potential, but also the weaknesses and problems that need to be addressed.”
Conservatives are generally children. Driven largely by emotion with a very simple moral framework. Much like you will likely struggle to explain to a toddler that taking the other kid’s toys, screaming constantly, and shitting in the sandbox won’t make a lot of friends, explaining politics to a conservative is likely to be an ordeal. They don’t care. They have feelings and that is their reality.
It’s also kind of funny how conservatives are the ones who typically say “reality doesn’t care about your feelings”. Everything is projection.
The qons are very much into performative bullshit that they think is patriotism. They’ll cry about how someone kneeling while a song plays and a piece of cloth is displayed at a sportsball game hurts “the troops”.
Then they’ll proudly vote for a party that treats the men and women of the military like a used Kleenex, and embrace a figure like Taco who called them suckers and losers.
They’ll blather about free speech, then cry about Hollywood airing shows they don’t like. They’ll talk about liberty and The Constitution, but want xtianity to be put on a pedestal.
Xtianity sounds like the Muskrat’s new political party (or religion, or both).
Xtianity
You know, it’s hilarious how the rabid xtians often get up in arms over that on some more “normie” moderated platforms I am on/have been on.
They would repeatedly say I violated the TOS and would try to get comments taken down and/or me banned. They would claim this is “offensive” to xtians.
When this is THEIR abbreviation for Christ, and has been for centuries, FFS. Of course, these are the very same dipshits that get “offended” about things like someone telling them in a secular setting like a shopping mall or big box store or printed on something like a coffee cup: “happy holidays”. These people have zero historical context for fucking anything. For decade upon decade, primarily xtians would tell each other “happy holidays” to cover xmas and New Years.
And no one got butthurt about it (except for maybe a few fringe anecdotal crazies that I knew, but these people also believed in crazy shit like Marilyn Manson removed a rib to blow himself, or that the profit from arcade games went to the Satanic church. I wish I was kidding. In other words, people fixated on trivial nonsense and conspiracy theories.).
Then, introduce Faux “News”, and they blow up shorthand like “happy holidays” into a “war on xmas”. Of course, you have the attendant bullshit to go with it where again, their own abbreviation for Christ, X, being used in places like xmas, xtians, and xtianity drives them fucking crazy and they run around trying to cancel (irony) anyone that uses these abbreviations and short hands. I guess everyone now needs to tell these fucking snowflakes “Merry CHRISTmas and Happy New Years” and really emphasize the CHRIST part of that phrase, instead of just “happy holidays”, or else they’ll melt into a puddle, the poor dears. Gosh, if ONLY our secular government and our national culture would cater to xtians just a little fucking more…
“reality doesn’t care about your feelings”
but science is woke
Man over the years that projection thing just gets more and more. Which is just crazy when they spend most of their time accusing their opponents of things we eventually find out they are actively doing at the time.
I’ve always said I’m happy to have been born where I am and I feel privileged, not pride, for that. Unfortunately I’ve been feeling less and less privileged recently.
I’d rather live here than maybe 80-90% of other places, but if I could’ve chosen where I was born, it would not be here. Anywhere with universal healthcare is better.
Turns out most of the world doesn’t like felon rapist liars.
'Merica does though.
Don’t forget they don’t like people who are best friends and love to party with pedos
No, no, MAGAs keep insisting that the world finally respects us again!
To be fair. Respected and loved are two different things. I don’t think the rest of the world respects the US more than 1 year ago, just saying.
Respect? A LOT less.
And remember, respect is everything.
As a non-American, I can say that amongst the people I know it was the re-election of Trump that really did it. The first time you could write off as an anomaly - he managed to fool enough people at just the right time or something like that, and then you guys got rid of him after a single term. Pretty bad but shit happens.
But then after that he showed everyone exactly who he was for eight years straight and then he got in again. And since then he’s really been ramping it up to insane levels of fascist nonsense and nobody’s kicked him out or even made a serious run at removing him from power yet. When I talk to people the vibe is very much “What the hell is going on over there?”
TBH I don’t know why he wasn’t over as soon as the “Grab 'em by the pussy” tape was leaked. I feel like that would have tanked most candidates.
TBH, I lost a fair bit of respect for America when they nearly elected the clearly-none-too-well-informed George W Bush and then pushed him over the line with clearly broken legal shenanigans.
But Trump makes Bush Jr look clever, knowledgeable, statesmanlike and wise. I didn’t think that was even possible, but it’s not even a narrow thing.
Trump’s a complete moron, has the emotional maturity of a toddler, the charm of a slug and the kindness and bonhomie of General Hux.
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You’d have to mad to want to go to the clown show Nazi pedo-nation.
when US was popular in the world? can you call a bully the popular kid?
Basically the same way the douchey rich kid who’s tolerated because he’s got a Playstation AND an N64 is “popular”.
N64
OK Grandpa, let’s get you inside for a nap! 🤣
Playstation AND an N64
Ha, well, these days it’s hard to be sure. I see some kind of weird penchant for collecting things like cassettes now, and among a much younger set than I would have ever imagined. I’ve not priced a N64 or an original PS1 in a while, but it seems like they are old enough now to start becoming collectible?
A great term I’ve run across recently is “anemoia” - nostalgia for a past you’ve never even experienced. I think I see some of that in Gen Alpha, anyway. Actually, quite a lot of it…
Oh, so that’s what Anemoiapolis is named after.
Golden Eye - pyramid level, slaps only, no odd job - was the height of gaming that the industry has yet to recapture.
The egg’s been captured already, give it a rest, tomorrow’s Thursday.
I liked Duke Nukem 64. Me and my mates would play that non-stop. Goldeneye was never worth playing because the guy who owned the N64 was unbeatable.
“What popularity there was”
It’s actually been quite nice here in Canada lately, in the last few years we’ve been quite politically divided but once Trump started talking about annexing Canada it seemed like everyone I know came together to be like he can fuck right off lol.
Our household is still refusing to buy anything American or go anywhere near the place until (at the very least) Trump is gone and the US can demonstrate that something like this won’t happen again.
But Trump said the world loves us?
By world he means Russia and US oligarchs.
Nah, the oligarchs only love themselves. Fuck the little guy
Whatever he says, the opposite is true.
420 standing by.
Color me shocked.
Careful, that might get you detailed. No colors allowed.
Trump is the symptom not the disease
He’s a cancer, and it has spread.
wdym?
Our culture is trash and it finds trash to represent it.
Trump is a result of American culture, not driving it.
Trump is a representative of America, not an outsider.
Trump happened again secondary to the diseases of hate and greed, not in advance of.
A fascist nation produces a fascist leader. Clearly the leader is the problem.
Capitalism produces fascism as its end result, period. The merger of state and corporate power is just the logical expansion of the selection of maximized profitablity over ethical behavior.
So every modern Western country is fascist?
They are steadily getting there. The far-right is gaining power EVERYWHERE.
To further expound: In a healthy political ecosystem, Trump would not be able to get anywhere near any political office. He would have been immediately voted down as the cruel joke that he is. It’s only because America is so evil and toxic that he was elected twice.
Exactly, Trump is a perfect mirror of America 2025
“the diseases of hate and greed” - is found elsewhere too. Which is why Fascism is also on the rise in Europe and elsewhere.
I agree and that rise saddens me, but in Europe, I still generally have confidence that the majority of countries’ populations respect general decency, human rights and lack of corruption enough to keep the hate and greed mostly at bay. In the US, it’s now long past hope - the corruption runs so deep, so broadly that it’s taken over, and that means the country is doomed to be somewhere I never wanna live.
I still generally have confidence that the majority of countries’ populations respect general decency, human rights and lack of corruption enough to keep the hate and greed mostly at bay.
And yet fascism is on the rise 'cos dumbass illiterate bigoted motherfuckers exist in the EU too.
also have better political and electoral systems to resist the kind of capture we see now in the US
Trump was the best we could do. He represents our citizens.
He represents the morons who voted for him and refused to vote against him.
that’s like 2/3 of the US tho :/
Yeah, it’s not great. More people didn’t vote than those who voted for either candidate. All the dumbass “both sides” propaganda.
Honestly it’s the media’s fault. It’s extremely favourable to hatred and simple explanations. They lap up and spread everything he spews plus all the hate against him.
I’ve been saying for a while that George W. Bush was the one who sold the doors and windows to the house. Trump is just the inevitable crack head that climbed in and started living on the sofa.
The removal of democratic checks and balances has been furthered by every president since Reagan.
This article is 2 months old.
And it’s only gotten worse
I think US popularity is collapsing in the US as well. I know I’m starting to hate it here.
I’ve been trying to convince my wife to leave since 2016. I’m 99% sure the main reason she won’t agree is because she will burst into flames if she ever admits to being wrong about anything.
When I married my wife in 2005 she told me she’d NEVER leave her home and family. Took her to Australia for the first time in 2015 and within an hour of landing she was ready to move, which we did in November 2015, right before trump 1.0. Now since last November she’s looking into Australian citizenship and says she’s never going back. Don’t give up hope!
What about it made her want to move?
Mostly it was moving from the Midwest to a sub-tropical beach paradise. Which I thought (but definitely didn’t say) was kinda funny, because her reason for saying she’d never move was family. But pretty much all the reasons she’s been glad we did move are related to trump and what the US has become.
Politics have been a convenient correlation, but I’ve been convincing my wife to move further and further north to more climate-change resilient areas
Almost like that poleward range shift is gonna affect humans just like any other animal
You still can’t have Canada though. But if you’re nice and promise not to annex the country, we might let you in.
We (me much more strongly than my wife) are considering leaving altogether.
One reason I advocated for the twin cities as our “final” stopping point was because the boundary waters are a very porous border and I know i could get my family across with relative speed and low risk
(Also I’m 100% cool with the expectation of reasonable cultural conformity and aside from dropping the occasional “ope” and “lemme just squeeze right by ya” I’ll blend right in)
Hope it works out for you. Due to certain financial outcomes, I’m pretty much stuck where I am, for better or worse. Will have to be satisfied that my teenaged daughters never had to live in trump’s America.
Sounds very american of her.
Some people like their family, friends and communities. Even non-Americans, believe it or not.
Was more refering to the “burst into flames if she ever admits to being wrong about anything”
Why not get a new wife?
One is plenty.
In this economy?
Just go to the wife store
Yup, half our population is now defending human trafficking and statutory rape.
Never in my long life have I considered leaving America, but I’m looking at options now.
US
popularityis collapsing - FTFY.
Is this really surprising to anyone?
Probably only hardcore MAGA. Actually probably not them because they wouldn’t believe an MSM article that claimed Trump was hurting the image of the USA, even if they could read
They probably believe it but think it’s because Trump is playing hardball and making them pay their fair share and that’s why they’re mad.
I think they love the hate. Because it’s the only emotion they get from anyone.
They love the hit of Dopamine they get. There’s lots of ways to do that, but they’ve socialized themselves to get their fix in response to political outrage.
FoxNews knows this, so they oblige by offering various outrages all day, every day, so MAGA Nazis can stay constantly cranked up.
They’re addicts, it’s as simple as that.
They do, they think it’s “winning” somehow.
It is to me. That means the popularity came back after the Bush years and after Trump’s first term. It’ll come back after 2028 too because people have the memory of goldfish.
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