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Honestly, I only use it for when a site will not work in FFX-based browsers
why not vivaldi?
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Degoogled Chromium then? And try Epiphany & WebKit too
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Vivaldi’s only proprietary part is the UI. Because it differentiates them from other chromium based browsers. Under the hood it’s open source.
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Who cares, it’s a browser…use whatever you like.
did not know about the founder’s past, cheers for this. whenever i’m forced to open a chromium browser for something from now on, i’ll be using vivaldi.
I don’t see any of this as legitimate reasons to stop using Brave.
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yes the CEO donated $1k some 10 years ago to anti-LGBT stuff, and that’s bad, but kinda small fries in the totality of factors.
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ads. Firefox has ads and trackers just like Brave. You can disable them on either.
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you can also disable crypto.
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hijacking affiliate codes is unethical and should be stopped but don’t actually affect me in any way.
What else ya got?
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I use Firefox + Brave Search.
Stop using it with honey mustard sauce! Stop using it with tangy sweet and sour sauce! Stop eating the new fiesta Brave salad! Stop enjoying Brave on the patio, in the car, or on the boat… wherever good times are had!
🎵 Pop a poppler in your mouth
When you come to Fishy Joe’s
What they’re made of is a mystery
Where they come from no one knows 🎵
Brave Software, the company behind the browser of the same name, was founded by Brendan Eich. He’s best known as the creator of JavaScript from his days at Netscape Communications
Say no more fam.
Truly no atonement can be sufficient for a sin that grave
To be honest the best chromium based browser I’ve used (when I’m forced to use a chromium based browser) is the Samsung internet one. It has a dark mode that actually works and protects my vampire eyes lol.
Never used brave because I heard all of the scammy ad network and crypto stuff years ago, immediately put me off it. Now learning that the creator probably hates me, it’s just another reason not to touch it.
The fact is i don’t care about these things. All it matters is that Brave uses Chromium, therefore I’ll never touch it.
Never used it to begin with.
Why?
from the article…
Ultimately, Brave Browser is the apparatus of an advertising company, a bloated and complicated experience for the average user, and the pet project of the person kicked out of Mozilla for continuing to defend harmful political donations. If you want a privacy-focused web browser, use Firefox or Vivaldi. If you want to support your favorite content creators and publishers, turn on advertisements or support them through the methods they already support (Patreon, Ko-Fi, and so on). Brave Browser is irredeemable, and you should not use it under any circumstances.
I don’t use brave and I am not interested in using it, so YMMV.
because it’s shit
All those i figured
and the pet project of the person kicked out of Mozilla for continuing to defend harmful political donations
This one is interesting to me because it begins to explains why it has the same terrible clipart lions head logo as a bunch of deadend political parties, groups, and candidates. It seems pretty obvious now
Everyone who I’ve ever seen talk about using Brave has been a chud, so I always thought it was sus.
Is Vivaldi good for privacy? It is closed-source and I don’t understand its business model.
exactly, there’s a lot of trust involved in using Vivaldi. I don’t know why someone recommends it over Brave in the name of privacy.
Not according to PrivacyTests.org. It lacks a lot of state partitioning, amongst other things. Just FYI, the front end UI is closed source, but the backend/engine is open source, because they’re just another chromium spin off.
I love it when people just flat out refuse to read the article. Why read when you can comment instead?
You could ignore my reply, but instead you decided to attack me. I don’t know what’s your problem, but it’s between two years right in your head, so please leave me out of it.
Someone needs a nap. It’ll be ok.
Dude, this is a Firefox. Why tell us not use something what…95% of people here are not using in the first place?
EDIT: The crypto stuff is opt-in. You don’t have to use Brave Shields (in browser ad blocker). It can be turned off. Now you can use uBlock Origin or another ad blocker.
About the CEO, I can’t see nothing about his beliefs reflecting in his work. Looks like he kept them separated. I’m not for said beliefs.
EDIT 2: Also Brendan Eich is a co-founder of Mozilla. So if you’re not going to use Brave because of him. How can you use Firefox?
Just ignore everything I said here. I misinterpreted stuff. My bad.
this is a Firefox
It’s obvious that op meant that we are on r/Firefox, therefore there’s no need to shill against brave.
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Given what I had said about it, the interpretation made sense. I already apologized. There’s no need to correct me after the author already did. It adds nothing but trying to be condescending.
Claiming it’s Firefox is a bit misleading. Claiming its suggesting it’s equivalent to saying don’t use Firefox is outright deceptive and/or downright ignorant.I’m sorry but what?Sorry, I thought you were saying it’s based on Firefox. Just realized it was an attempt at the Wendy’s meme.
np
I used to but it got bloated to hell and back.
I use Brave as a second browser (mainly to separate different activities) and did not have any issues with it apart from dragging tabs between monitors (it creates an additional empty tab sometimes when doing this). Turned off all unnecessary stuff right when I first launched it and that’s it. No bloat, no issues, just works. Didn’t know about this CEO controversy but seeing as it was a long time ago, don’t think it’s a valid reason to not use Brave. And both logo and name are cool.
It’s a solid option which we don’t really have a lot of in open source spaceI use it for streaming because the ad block works on spotify and YouTube. I could never get spotify working on Firefox consistently.
Same here.
mainly to separate different activities
Firefox has profiles AND container tabs for exactly this though.
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I’m talking about the browser user profiles, where your user data (bookmarks, passwords, extensions) is stored.
Firefox puts them into profiles so that you can change between those sets, as if you’re a different user, without changing user accounts at the OS level.
This isn’t about online accounts.
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Yep, Mozilla doesn’t tie your Firefox settings to your Mozilla account. It does require it for syncing between devices though.
Glad to get people to understand Firefox better. Hope my comment didn’t come out as too crass or anything 😅
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Do you think you were anonymous before and the profile is what broke that?
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What are you talking about? Firefox doesn’t need an email address for container tabs or separate profiles, and I think you can still host your own sync server if you want that capability.
I haven’t checked if Container tabs work on Torn Browser, but that’s my go-to for anonymity.
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Yup, on Firefox, profiles are just directories of settings, and you can have as many as you choose. AFAIK, few people use them, since you can get most of that behavior with container tabs. For example, at work, I have one container group for work Gmail, one for personal, and if my wife uses it, she can open another group for her stuff.
I’d use profiles for a shared login on a computer, but I’d just use separate user accounts instead. I use container tabs for multiple logins for the same service on one profile. Switching then just means opening a new tab with that container group.
I mean, there’s simply just Firefox. Which is apparently not the basis for Brave. It does sound like Brave collects data so it still seems shady.
Edit: could have sworn brave was built on Firefox. It’s not. It’s chromium. Which in my opinion counts against it as I’d rather avoid a monopoly considering how much control Google has over chromium and the inherent biases Google has.
Brave is based on Chromium, not Firefox.
My bad. Not sure why I thought that. Still. Firefox is still a better alternative in my opinion.
You might have been thinking of Mullvad Browser, which is based on Firefox and came out somewhat recently. Other privacy-focused browsers based on Firefox include Librewolf and Tor browser.
Summary:
- Brendan Eich’s donation to Proposition 8, opposing same-sex marriage.
- Backlash and resignation from Mozilla CEO position due to controversy.
- Creation of Brave Software and fundraising despite backlash.
- Plan to replace ads with Brave’s own ad network faced legal challenges.
- Introduction of Basic Attention Tokens (BAT) cryptocurrency for ad incentives.
- Privacy scandal involving affiliate codes added to URLs for revenue collection.
Please at least copypaste the content when you post…
I don’t usually judge by looks, but you can just tell that Brendan Eich is an insecure fragile person with many mental problems.
I don’t know what’s worse: The whole anti same-sex marriage deal or inventing Javascript.
Probably Javascript…
Oh he’s THAT guy?!
Fuck that guy. He basically is the reason popups was so damn widespread.
JavaScript is also the whole reason that the web is interactive. Without JavaScript the web would be mostly just static pages without any client side dynamic behavior.
Brendan Eich is a tool, but JavaScript is a useful tool, at least.
If there’s no JavaScript, there will be another language developed to fill that void. We don’t know whether it’ll be better or not. But with TypeScript, working with JavaScript has been quite painless for me.
Forms are interactive and dont require me to run your shitty code and execute it on my computer.
Keep that shit running on your server. I dont need another vector for malicious code to run on my machine
I think I’d prefer a mostly static web. Guess I should finally check out ublock origins medium mode or whatever its called.
I think I’d prefer a mostly static web.
Me too, gemini looks promising https://gemini.circumlunar.space/
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I’m viewing this comment without JavaScript.
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Lol nice
I’m literally replying to this because of JavaScript
I don’t know what’s worse: The whole anti same-sex marriage deal or inventing Javascript.
Probably Javascript…
Heh. Made me smile.
Here, have an upvote! ;)
oh sorry! forgot about it adding a description. will do next time.
