• roguetrick
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    32 years ago

    That sounds low enough to ensure a dystopian future. It could be much higher and still get there easily.

  • @[email protected]
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    122 years ago

    27,000 deaths a day approximately. According to the WHO 150,000 people die every day right now. 385,000 people are born every day. I mean it sounds bad, but in this context it doesn’t sound that bad…

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      32 years ago

      Causing 15% of deaths is a big deal. Maybe not as much a big deal as Doomsday Next Tuesday, but a big deal nevertheless.

      • Mubelotix
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        You cannot compare this number and the current population. It’s not the same unit. We have humans/time and humans.

    • themeatbridge
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      112 years ago

      Exactly, and it’s not like it’s going to be me dying. It will be someone else. Thanks to denial, I’m immortal.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        Yeah. Don’t blame people at all for not having kids. Frankly the planet probably needs less humans.

        • Alto
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          62 years ago

          The planet can absolutely support more humans.

          We’d just have to be something that even halfway resembles responsible about it. Good luck with that part

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            The planet can absolutely support more humans.

            As the world becomes more industrialized and its citizens desire more of the “first world life”, I’m starting to be wary of that view.

  • @[email protected]
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    142 years ago

    Sounds conservative to me. I feel like to cap it to a billion we’d need massive agriculture overhaul and renewable energy investment, and neither of those are valued in profit or political capital.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      It’s a brutal contrast of the world we grew up in , the only certainty seems to be that the next year will be worse than the last , and death . Which doesn’t seem so bad all things considered.

      • Alto
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        122 years ago

        Bit younger than that but hi. There’s a reason I’m not having kids

        • TWeaK
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          22 years ago

          Because that worked so well in the movie Idiocracy.

  • @[email protected]
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    62 years ago

    What are the most likely causes of death? Are we talking average life expectancy drops by a couple of years, but quality of life remains constant? Or are we talking famine and war due to a loss of areable land?

    I assume it’s a little of both, but it’s useful to know which sides the scales tip.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      It’s an estimate of premature deaths based on CO2 emissions.

      "Pearce and Parncutt found the peer-reviewed literature on the human mortality costs of carbon emissions converged on the “1,000-ton rule,” which is an estimate that one future premature death is caused every time approximately 1,000 tons of fossil carbon are burned.

      “Energy numbers like megawatts mean something to energy engineers like me, but not to most people. Similarly, when climate scientists talk about parts per million of carbon dioxide, that doesn’t mean anything to most people. A few degrees of average temperature rise are not intuitive either. Body count, however, is something we all understand,” said Pearce, a Western Engineering and Ivey Business School professor.

      “If you take the scientific consensus of the 1,000-ton rule seriously, and run the numbers, anthropogenic global warming equates to a billion premature dead bodies over the next century. Obviously, we have to act. And we have to act fast.”"

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    This doesn’t account for the fear of rich humans as the poorer humans aggressively seek relief and/or completely justified revenge.

  • Poggervania
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    282 years ago

    Reminds me of a bit that George Carlin did regarding climate change: “The planet’s gonna be fine. The people are FUCKED!

    • themeatbridge
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      142 years ago

      Just want to point out for all the people who say things like “We didn’t know how bad it would be…” George did that bit in 1992, and everybody knew exactly what he meant. Jimmy Carter warned of climate change while he was president.

      We’ve known for nearly 50 years, and we did almost nothing to stop it.