yes, I just got a new (referb) laptop for the kids - fuck MS was anoying trying to install chrome on it (yes I know, but all their bookmarks/setting/etc in there…)
And it’s pissing users like me off. I have one laptop for work and one for home. My work laptop has a professional work profile and for some of the programs I’m required to use I need Microsoft apps like edge and office. As a result I get these popups non stop when opening edge. I also am not an administrator on the work laptop so I literally cannot just decide to upgrade from windows 10 to Windows 11. If the damn thing would stop blocking my work flow with full page ads, that would be awesome.
Well Windows 11 got me to use arch, for which I use btw
Hahahaha perfect
I tried installing arch but it would tell me there’s no such thing as vda or something I looked it up but found no answer so I switched to pop!_OS
Love pop!_OS, Manjaro is a really cool and good fork of Arch that’s easy to install if rolling distributions are something you’re interested in
seems like a good idea to try it out, thanks. :D
I’m not sure how this is different from Google pushing popups in every Google app to switch to Chrome.
I don’t recall seeing a popup like this from Google, but even still a popup in the os should be for important messages not for advertising
They do, and it’s also mentioned in the article. While I agree, for many people the browser is effectively their os, and so we shouldn’t discount the weight of browser notifications simply because they’re not originating from the host os.
What’s your point, exactly? Let’s say we accept your premise that this is an unfair double-standard that Microsoft shouldn’t have to respect… have you considered the logical conclusion that this creates? That the public should just… blithely accept Google-style nag prompts baked into literally any piece of software or hardware, even when they hold a paid license? I don’t think a reasonable person would intentionally advocate for such a thing, so please help me understand what you really meant.
That’s neither my premise nor the logical conclusion of the premise you invented.
A reasonable person should interpret my comment to mean that Google does the same thing, and if you feel a certain way about Microsoft for doing this, you should feel the same way about Google.
I see! Thank you for clarifying. I am very sorry for inventing premises and arriving at illogical conclusions.
The fucking bing bar pop-up!!
I am the only one that use Linux and bing as a default search? (On firefox) I personally think bing have better results than google right now
I installed Pop OS on my laptop since it’s pretty gaming friendly. Between that and the Steam Deck, Windows 10 might be my last version of Windows for personal use.
Anyone who uses windows these days gets what’s coming to them.
So sick of people saying stuff like this. Linux blah blah blah. Linux is not suitable for the vast majority of business and home users due to software incompatibility. People don’t want to mess around with wine or whatever else just to use photoshop or word.
Linux is absolutely suitable for most people.
If you are dependent on software that locks you into windows, then you deserve what you get.
Maybe if you had higher standards, then software vendors would be forced to reach them.
I’d love to be able to replace all my software, but 80% of what I use a computer for is not possible on Linux.
There’s no Linux alternative to Lightroom (that actually works) there’s no way to play almost any online game with an anticheat.
Even if someone had “higher standards” that’s not going to change anything, they’re just not going to be able to do their job.
Even if someone had “higher standards” that’s not going to change anything
Wrong. If enough people had higher standards, businesses would have to meet those standards or go out of business.
It’s a very simple concept, and ya’ll deserve to suffer together because you can’t work together.
There’s no way to meet anticheat standards on Linux. It’s inherently a less secure platform for all the reasons you love. That’s not a dig against the OS, it’s a fact that enabling Linux in anticheats makes it less secure on all platforms due to the level of open customization Linux gives. That’s great for the user, but a pretty much unsolvable problem from game companies.
I don’t use FOSS most of the time because it doesn’t meet my needs. My standards are too high for Linux by your logic then.
You sound like a complete cunt.
Some software just literally isn’t available for Linux. And lets face it, even Ubuntu requires more tinkering than the average user is prepared to do, or in other words, any tinkering at all because they would have to install it themselves and they do not know how to do that. And the few times I’ve bothered to use Linux even as my backup, the tinkering never stops. Its not worth the hassle at this point in time.
How are you guys seeing this? I constantly hear these complaints but never see it myself.
I’m in the US and the only time I see mention of edge is when installing windows and then again when changing my default browser, which is kinda silly but not something I bother wasting mental energy to care about when it’s something that shows up once and then never again. I would love to see legislation in the US match what some of the European countries have but considering how things could be, it’s of least concern to me. I paid for Windows once in my life via an OEM license I ordered from a German retailer and I’ve had about 16 or so computers since then and all of those have either been custom built machines, used computers, or parted together boxes so if they want to bug me about installing their browser which effectively will recoup revenue based on data from me which varies from useless to misleading and probably becomes a net negative and moves them further from their goal. Then sure, I don’t mind clicking that “no thank you” button
The yes and no button do the same thing.
Yeah, same.
I assume it’s just a test they’re running on specific groups of people just to see how effective it is in getting people to switch. I’ve never had any of these types of things happen to me either, so, yeah.
Makes sense. I guess I’ve been a very lucky boy.
Depends on the laws of the country with the language you picked during setup.
e.g. use UK english or German for setup and change after.
At least until they switch to detect via IP range or whatever.
Oh maybe that’s it. I’ve also never seen any kind of popup or ad (same thing for my Samsung TVs) that I’ve seen people mentioning.
I had no idea why I might be spared.
I’m in the US, using English as my language. Idk, this is weird.
I installed windows 10 on my brothers PC for him the other day after a catastrophically corrupted prior install. I saw seven ads by my count.
Ones for Spotify, onedrive, office 365, several for gamepass.
Did you install an official version? I’ve never seen those.
Yes Sir, straight from the windows media creator tool
Windows acting like oldschool viruses, giving random ad pop-ups 💀
A malware company using malware practices. Nothing to see here, gents.
Nothing to see, except its effective monopoly in the OS PC sector and its presence in the entertainment and corporate industry.
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Let them fight.
There needs to be a legally mandated option to turn off all recommendations and tracking, and to require consent to enable it in the first place.
Or the courts should force MS to split off into an os company, an online services company, an office productivity software company, and a gaming company.
If we had an actual anti-monopoly/umbrella corporation law that would be badass.
Hell Amazon would tank instantly, since they just operate on pumping AWS profits into their loss leader (Amazon delivery) constantly.
So would Google to some extent. This actually sounds like a good plan. We should go back to the 90’s antitrust law. Before we made it toothless and basically unenforceable.
Fuck yeah! Lets do some trust bustin!
So pretty much just an extension of GDPR. Sounds good.
I found edge mysteriously on my phone yesterday I’m not sure if the culprit was the bing app or the Microsoft launcher (not my main launcher I was just curious).
One thing I do know is I didn’t install edge myself I use mull.
In what wild wild west can one app install another on your phone?
That was my thought also I am on Android 13 and even double checked the permissions on the two Microsoft apps I had installed. I’ll be watching to see if this happens again or to anyone else as I immediately removed edge once noticing it.
Shouldn’t be possible I would never voluntarily download it, yet it got on my device somehow.
One where F-droid exists?
Surely that permission must be granted on install, no? Can’t imagine installing an MS app and granting “install whatever you want” permissions
There is a permission for it yes.
On newer Android versions you typically aren’t prompted when you install the app but rather the first time it attempts to initiate an install of another app (or update itself)
They also rolled out some change where long pressing on text in android would suggest bing search. I found out that happens if you just have their outlook app installed. Never uninstalled something so fast.
I bet the Bing app is full of trackers.
OK, that really makes me suspicious that they’re installing Bing via MS Authenticator app as well… Bing app showed up on my phone and I just noticed it yesterday. Hmmmm.
My personal laptop updated itself from 10 to 11, and 11 is infuriating. Never mind the pop ups and ads, the whole thinf just sucks. This was just the extra bit of incentive that I needed to switch back to Linux Mint. Thanks, MS!
