IPA’s are like someone took the worst part of beer and made it the only part of the beer.
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Yeah, alcohol. IPAs taste like bitter piss as much as lagers do but at least with IPAs I get drunk faster and don’t put on as much weight.
For anyone who likes IPAs anyway, their low alcohol versions do tend to taste a lot more like real beer than any low alcohol pale lager does.
What types of beer would you recommend?
Personally I’m more of a pilsner guy. I just hate the bitterness of IPA’s.
Bitter is the flavor of hops. IPA’s are made with a ridiculous amount of hops. I prefer beer with lower amounts of hops.
Bitter is the flavor of hops.
It very much depends on how you apply the hops. New England style IPAs aren’t bitter at all (very low IBU comparable to some pilsners in fact), even though it is probably the type of beer which has the most hops added. The hops are added in the form of aroma hops, which usually provides a citrus flavour instead of the bitterness of bittering hops.
I wish that was how American IPA’s worked. 90% of them are bitter af. Like I’d rather eat an entire grapefruit than drink the average American IPA
Saisons, sour, pilsner, altbier, Oktoberfest, stouts, bocks, porter
Oh, no…I like IPAs…does this mean you guys are gonna make me go back to Reddit?
I’m afraid so. Enjoying an IPA is simply unconscionable in the Lemmy hive mind.
Seriously though, I like an IPA once in a while myself, I just wish the local store had a little more selection
It’s not a hive mind, it’s a central consciousness
It’s a collective consciousness
It’s a federated consciousness.
It actually is more of a hive mind than reddit. A decentralized consciousness.
Resistance is futile.
No, you’ll just be the lemmy nerd and be bullied about it.
Is a porter too much to ask for?
Hear hear. So few and far between to find a good Porter these days. Then when you do, half the hipster two rooms serve them chilled.
I just want a dark good thick porter that doesn’t taste like an IPA but burned and bitter.
Thank God stout season is coming back at least
I was so sad when I once stumbled on a limited run stout on tap and they served it ice cold in a heavy frosted mug.
Assuming you’re in the northern hemisphere, yes? Wait until it’s not 100 degrees out and they’ll be back
IPAs are literally so fucking gross. Give a me a blonde lager any day
I agree. Shitty IPAs are shitty, but I guess that is by definition.
What is this, 2012?
I thought, not so long ago, this was the same meme but with “pilsner” instead if “ipa” .
I guess things are a trend/popular for a reason.
As someone who doesn’t drink beer, reading this thread feels like I’m trying to read Dutch: I definitely know some of these words, but the rest is a mystery.
I kinda thought all beer was made roughly the same with just different ingredients, now I’m falling down a deep Wikipedia rabbithole.
It gets nutty.
The Bavarian purity laws defined beer in that part of the world as something that can only have hops, water and wheat. German beers tend to be straightforward and balanced
Belgians had no such compunctions and some will put fruit and other stuff in their beers. Their beers are a bit more out there and yeast (clovey) forward. Lots of Belgian beers also add candy sugar that gets fermented off which is how you get some golden ales that don’t have heavy bodies but have ABVs of 9% and up (Bud is 4% and wine stays around 15%)
British beers tend to be malt forward (ie, biscuity) ales. Legend has it that when the Brits shipped beer to their far off colonies that they over hopped the beer (hops are the bitter element that also acts as a preservative) the deployed soldiers came home and asked for the pale ales like they had grown to love in India and the IPA was born
Americans kind of picked and chose from a lot of the styles around the world and true to form made them bigger, bolder and borderline obnoxious. A lot of the hops being grown these days have been bred to taste certain ways which is why some IPAs taste like citrus or pine trees.
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The Bavarian purity laws defined beer in that part of the world as something that can only have hops, water and wheat.
Hops, water and barley. I think not using wheat was kind of the point actually, since wheat can be made into bread, and you wouldn’t want a bread shortage, would you? Banning others from brewing wheat beers, and then giving a monopoly to your own court brewery to corner the market, is also a baller business move.
Bah! You’re right.
And that’s funny: I never knew it was for someone else to have a monopoly on what beers. Thank you!
cant relate. i love the International Phonetic Alphabet
Well, I also like Isopropyl Alcohol
At this point my taste buds are even burnt out on good IPAs (for those who accept such a premise as possible).
I’m lucky enough to see some good reds/stouts/etc come through a few times a year, but the ratio of IPA:Not is just ridiculous IMO.
yeah TBH I barely drink beer at all anymore because finding beers I like has gotten to be such a chore.
There’s some IPA’s I like but I don’t like drinking nothing but IPA’s every time I drink beer. And pretty much the only “mainstream” beer I spend money on is Modelo, but again, if I drink nothing but that all the time after a while I start to get tired of it.
If you haven’t tried it, Carlsburg Elephant is a seriously good pilsner that’s widely available.
Fun fact*: Carlsburg gave Niels Bohr a house with a tap straight from the brewery for winning the Nobel prize.
Edit: * maybe not a fact.
*Carlsberg.
I like saisons and kettle sours, not always easy to find those
Gose beers finally arrived in my area after years of waiting. Still fifty IPAs to every gose but it’s something
I feel lucky. Two great local breweries are as easy to visit as a grocery store run.
They both do classic styles and delicious NEIPA.
And, these two joints aren’t even the top breweries in the state per many, many beer snobs. Fuck, Treehouse and Trillium.
Rock it Widowmaker and Long Live!
New England represent!
Even some gas stations have big selections of local craft beer around here.
I did a Sweet 16 bracket elimination contest for regional IPAs a few years back just to force myself to identify the ‘good’ ones and eliminate bad ones. Even after doing that, I do a little dance any time there’s something else available.
Some brewers can’t help themselves. Even when they brew a style that would traditionally have low IBUs they bump it up by about 10. Lagunitas totally messed with Newcastle Brown Ale once they got their grubby hops-loving mitts on it.
This breaks my heart as I’ve been looking to try it since I loved the old one
Lagunitas already makes too many IPAs. I like them, but you would think they would want some variety in their lineup. Its sad to hear that they messed up the old brown ale.
Here in Kansas City we have plenty of IPA. But there are a bunch of breweries and they all have plenty of non ipa varieties.
Even more luck need if you dare like dark beer.
I guess I’ll always have Guinness and negro modelo. but I crave variety.
There was a time where i could walk down the street and get a 4-pack of guinness from the gas station, but now it’s all IPAs. That, or cheap beer.
Stout n port game down under is strong. We have good selection here now but it’s pricey.
I just want a good brown or porter.
Honest advice? Brew it your self.
I started making my own beer because I couldn’t find a good Scotch ale. I now have a pile of recipes for English style of ale (which I’m happy to share for those interested).
Same here. The few that are available aside from guineas extra stouts and a couple nationwide coffee/oatmeal stouts are like $16 for four cans. I can’t afford that.
Depends where you live. Areas with a smaller craft brew scene do end up with the “nothing but IPA” problem. But where I live in the PNW there’s simply so damn many that even with 50% of them being IPA’s, you still get a huge selection of other pilsners, stouts, amber ales, hefenweizens… its pretty nice.
About 10 years ago it was probably closer to 80% IPAs. It was a big joke here that IPA stands for I Pretend (I’m not an) Alcoholic.
The only reason there is more on the market now is because we all stopped pretending the taste of motor oil with grapefruit gave us a better buzz.
Even now, most breweries will only seem to offer 4 varieties of IPAs, a pilsner/lager and a stout. Maybe an Amber but I feel the Mac & Jack’s copycat scene has mostly died out now.
My comment isn’t disagreeing with you. Only adding my two cents.
I live in an city that is on the top 10 list for breweries per capita in the world. And it’s all IPAs. Maybe 20% is not. And yeah it’s nice that I have 20 beers to chose from that aren’t ipas when I go to a place with 100 taps. I just hate having to sort though it all.
There should be an IPA menu, and a non ipa menu.
Also: IPAs have a lot of sugar content, and combined with alcohol sugar gives me a shitty buzz and a headache. I don’t know how people can drink more than one.
My IPAs and my pilsners finish at the same final gravity. IPAs do not universally have a lot of sugar. It’s the same as any other beer of similar alcohol content/starting gravity. If I got rid of the hops, I’d just have a strong English ale.
I believe you. You obviously know more. But it just seems so clear when I drink something crisp and light that I’m not getting that sugar high and headache I associate with strawberry daiquiris. But I get it from IPAs.
Very true. I thought I hated craft beer because I lived in a small town in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, Minnesota. I moved to Minneapolis, and it’s craft beer galore. My personal favorite brewery is Fair State
Same here in New England, but… The restaurants are IPA heavy, and the beer vendors have lots of IPA.
And some of us are ok with that…
Yeah. I like Hazys, IPAs, Stouts, Reds, Amber’s, Pils, Browns, Bitters…shit. I think I just like beer. I’m not a fan of lager and wheat beers though.
But when weather calls for it, love a nice hazy, gose, or sour. And like parking through a strong IPA.
Live in Seattle and that’s not true. 95% of them are IPAs and I just want a good Blonde…
Same, except I want something like a bock or doppelbock.
Blondes are not completely uncommon here. They generally have one or something similar on tap at most bars/restaurants.
1 blonde and 47 IPAs that taste like compost. Ambers are good too amd Mack & Jack’s African Amber is a good beer to that I can usually find here.
An exaggeration but I do get your point. Bars should probably have maybe two IPAs (one hazy and one standard) and then a host of other beers styles. I’d love to come across more dark lagers personally but those are pretty rare even in places like Chuck’s Hop Shop
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This always cracked me up:
The brand is not named after the famous St. Pauli neighbourhood in Hamburg, which is home to one of the world’s largest entertainment and red light districts. Rather, the name comes from the former St. Paul’s Friary [de] in Bremen, which was next to the original brewery established in 1857 by Lüder Rutenberg. There are currently three brands of beer brewed: St. Pauli Girl Lager, St. Pauli Girl Special Dark and St. Pauli Non-Alcoholic Malt Beverage. The beer is only produced for export and is not sold in Germany.
guh, blonde ale, really?
Or Ambers
Amber Ale is waaaaaay more complex and generally better than blonde ales imo… Do you like malt forward beers?
Yarp. Theres lots of good beers out there, but the vast majority are IPAs at the moment.
True. It does seem like it is more than 50% sometimes. Unforthcoming my taste buds are pretty burnt out from too many IPAs at this point. I used to love a wide range of beers but now basically stick to a hoppy-nonhoppy scale. I used to love Belgians and ambers and porters and all sorts of beers that were on the maltier side. Not really my jam anymore.
I work for a brewery in Portland, and we’d like to make over varieties, but hazys and IPAs are what sell.
Nailed it.
“Welcome! We have 30 beers on tap.”
And dark beers?
“We have this single India pale ale.”
Oh, we’ve got a hoppy red for people who want something dark…
