Trumps vision: “Golden showers everywhere!”
Fascism. They keep dancing around it, but what they want is fascism.
This isn’t politics. They want to remake US politics into a fascist state, and they’re not even that shy about it.
Thankfully only about 30% of US adults are falling for this grift. Unfortunately about the same percentage of Germans fell for it in the late 1920s. It seems really low, but it’s enough if the rest of us are complacent.
So let’s not be complacent.
I can’t afford to be complacent, I’m not white. I’d rather die with a gun in hand than in a camp. Some things are worse than death.
I’m a white disabled combat veteran who had hoped to be done fighting, but this is not the America I fought for. I will gladly take up arms again to defend our democracy from those who wish to destroy it. You will not be alone on that field if the day ever comes.
Fortunately, there are more decent people in this country then those fascists.
As a white person, I’ll die next to you if necessary. I hope it won’t be necessary – I’ll do everything I can to stop it getting to that point, but I see where this is headed.
We cannot let this happen again. We cannot let the bigots twist society like that so that people die for stupid arbitrary reasons like skin colour or religion, orientation, ancestry or disability.
We should be past all that, and we can’t allow people who aren’t to gain power again. I’ll do all I can to stop it, and I hope enough others will, too.
Buy guns.
If they want to fight, don’t make it easy for them
I’ve got guns but if I’m gonna have to deal with a civil war I’m leaving to the freaking wilderness and suicide last resort. I’m not going to kill people. Once you cross that line you’re never the same. The problem with humanity is that we never manage to make positive change without constant bloodshed. Fuck that. We obviously are a doomed species.
How do you explain people who kill in self-defense? They’re not usually damaged or changed by what they had to do to live.
I don’t think you’re giving yourself or your fellow man enough credit.
The time is now.
Buy a gun or two (a short one and a long one) and learn how to use them; learn some first aid, field medics really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Meet others in your area who are like you and share your beliefs, start building networks who can help each other because the police will not. This is real, the right is marching towards a blend of Christofascism/Corporatocracy that I’m not sure the world has seen and just winning a presidential race in 2024 isn’t going to cut it.
We need long term solutions, consistent, focused work so actual progress can be made again. Organization is so incredibly important and is why the rightwing has been so successful over the last half-century. We don’t have shady PACs funded by billionaires behind us, we’ll have to organize and DIY.
https://www.dsausa.org/
https://theliberalgunclub.com/
https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/john-brown-gun-club
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I am right there with ya.
Yeah, there are lot of groups that would be targeted if these clowns get their way. Hopefully this fight won’t get physical.
As someone queer. Yep, you’ve summed up how I feel as well.
it’s actually the vision Stephen A. Douglas had for America when he ran against Lincoln… only Lincoln could head it off then…
“We need to flood the zone with conservatives,” how about I flood your mouth with my balls
I don’t see this being any problem as long as young people vote.
Wait.
This is what we need
I feel physically ill… I went to school from 96 to 2010… I remember social studies and American history… The Holocaust being taught… I remember asking my teachers… What would happen if people tried to change our country to dictatorships… Every teacher was emphatic that it would never happen… one, because both parties love the country and two this is why we learn about Hitler and Stalin…
Wtf happened?!
It Happened Here. An unfortunate result of believing in American exceptionalism and not being vigilant.
It’s the ‘loving the country’ that suckered you all.
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross”
Who said that? It’s bang on.
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross
It’s been attributed to both Sinclair Lewis and Upton Sinclair, but it’s real origin is unclear.
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The answer to this is usually Reagan, runaway capitalism and the mega rich.
As someone born in 98, it’s been sad and frightening to have grown up watching so many of my peers fall down the alt-right pipeline and pop out as fully radicalized fighting-age fascists.
Straight out of the Nazi handbook
I hope they call the new country Gilead
“The best a man can get” Gilead?
You’re thinking of Gillette. Gilead is a 3D modeling API that came before Direct3D.
You’re thinking of Glide. Gilead is a genus of sun spiders
It’s what the ultra conservative state calls themselves when they broke off from the USA in the handmaid’s tale
Nothing says “conservative” quite like destroying the thing you were supposed to conserve.
Someone promised them that they could preserve their perceived power. And return the world to a time that never existed. If you understand that conservatives have no ideology Beyond coveting power and wealth and purely reactionary behaviors. This is all very logical and understandable unfortunately.
What book was it???.. “The Party seeks power entirely for it’s own sake. We’re not interested in the good of others”
something, something, boot, face.
Yeah it should say Republican
The only thing they want to conserve is their foot on our neck.
They want to conserve hierarchies, but only certain ones, and will work to create them if they do not already exist.
Only confused or disingenuous conservatives claim to want to conserve the government. That’s why you have conservative puppet masters encouraging celebrating Constitution Day; it helps their useful idiot non-fascists sell the ruse.
Actual conservatives, the ones in power, see the government either as an impediment to their agenda or a tool they can misuse to implement said agenda.
And the AP’s reference to them as “Conservative” in the headline doesn’t help. They should know better.
Well tbf, democracy is sometimes inconvenient.
They’re called conservative but they’re actually regressive.
America will be an openly-fascist state in my lifetime.
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America is a democracy for as long as we can keep it that way. Millions of people are going to die once these fascists take over. The least we can do is not call it early.
Ah, a realist. I completely agree.
I honestly am at a loss of words, this is extremely scary and nerve wracking. I couldn’t describe the bottomless pit I feel in my stomach, you either know it or are in on it. If republicans get into office it’s game over, nothing less then a monolithic dystopia. We need to stop this at all costs, even if it gets physical, this has gone on for too long without much resistance.
How do we even go about organizing ourselves in a way that doesn’t get us put on some watchlist. Which I’m probably on now for even asking.
It honestly feels like its time to take the gloves off. This only ends in violence. They don’t understand anything else.
If we needed to organize in a secure way encrypted messaging is a good start, the government may try to ban it but it’s basically impossible short of completely killing the internet entirely. The hard part is getting a large group of people together to stand against this. France has little issue organizing because most of the population is packed together and is far less land mass as well. The United States is far too big and not very populated considering the land mass. However seeing how black lives matter protests went I can tell one thing that we failed to do. We never completely pushed towards the end goal, we never reformed the system, only got the cons in the slammer. If we want change, it’ll be physical but more than that, it has to be complete, no stone unturned, we can’t settle for half baked protests. We need an all out revolution, and we need a competent leader to guide us toward that success. If we wanna sit here on our asses complaining about this then we’re fucked, we need action and we need it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMJH-UJyENs You might also consider watching this
edit: alt link in case YouTube deletes the video https://file.coffee/u/Kmre8L9pOuOUQ4QP4P0hr.mp4
With ai there is no need for a list.
If republicans get into office, it’s time for civil disobedience.
Don’t make me laugh. The time for civil disobedience was five years ago. If Trump wins (or loses) this next election, it’s time to tighten your belt, learn to shoot, and prepare for life in a balkanized North America.
The time for civil disobedience was Bush v Gore. We failed then and now our votes matter even less.
The best time for civil disobedience was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Tell everyone you know that is not a trumpet to vote blue. We have to take the country back by winning the trifecta. The presidency, the House, and the Senate. That will allow Congress to actually function for the first time in years. We can get new judges in, actually hold the current ones accountable, and pass legislature that prevents a lot of the bs we are seeing now. We cannot stay home this election cycle.
I would love to see that happen, but it’s not going to. They’ve split the country very effectively. We might get a substantial majority in the House, but the Senate is doomed to be deadlocked unless we flip at least 13 states, without them gaining a single seat.
It definitely won’t with that attitude 😔
We’re at the point where the words- “conservative” and “traitor” are synonymous.
They’re openly and actively trying to dismantle the United States.
Lock them all up.
18 USC 2383: Rebellion or insurrection
Text contains those laws in effect on August 30, 2023
From Title 18-CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I-CRIMES
CHAPTER 115-TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
America crushed fascism a few generations ago and we’ll do it again
the Heritage project leans into what legal scholars refer to as a unitary view of executive power that suggests the president has broad authority to act alone.
Did the fascists not just come for student loan forgiveness on the bullshit claim that Biden didn’t have the executive power to do something like that?
Fuck these traitorous pieces of shit. If this shit doesn’t stop we’re about to be living in the fucking Pinochet regime (which was the brainchild of American conservatives, because of course it fucking was) and academics and musicians and authors are going to start getting disappeared along with our LGBTQ family, friends and neighbors. What a fucking shit show. And apparently there’s not much we can do about it, except vote. As though that’s ever done a fucking thing with an absolute anachronism of an electoral system.
I can’t help the nihilism sometimes, jfc.
If it makes you feel any better, voting doesn’t help either.
It’s fairly well understood at this point that US policymaking has nothing to do with the will of the people.
I feel like I need to step in and personally rebuke this shit. Voting absolutely does work. Showing up to vote once isn’t going to magically fix everything - it’s going to take many election cycles to reverse course. US policy doesn’t reflect the will of the people because we’ve been apathetic for so long. Saying “voting doesn’t help” implies there’s no point in voting, and not voting guarantees that we will lose our democracy. I’m sympathetic to those who have been hurt by the conservative and capitalist agenda in this country who are losing hope, but making claims like this essentially makes you an ally to the corpofascist machine.
Please vote.
Sure man.
If you were paying attention, you’d notice that manipulating the government has been a fine craft for the ruling class.
As in, they’ve carefully calculated how much they need to spend in order to influence public opinion. It isn’t much. They have way, way more to spend.
What we’ve seen is only the bare minimum they’re willing to put out to maintain control. It really is that simple.
I’ll gladly vote for the iron boot grinding me into the dirt that still allows me to breathe instead of the one that is going to drown my face in the mud. If I have a choice, I’ll take the best available option.
Yeah, we keep getting punished because we can’t work together against the common enemy.
We’d rather step on each other than build ourselves up.
Yeah this article is terrifying.
