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This got popular right as I became a directionless sadboy so it was perfect for me then. Less Lumineers, more Head and the Heart, Bryan John Appleby, Great Lake swimmers.
Listened to the Local Natives after that. They’ve got hipster tendencies but it’s wayyy less overt.
Now I basically just listen to King Gizz, but wondering if I missed out by not listening to Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros.
Checking out some music videos right now and it’s really funny how many of them are friends going somewhere outside and having a big weird fun time lmao. Weirdly consumptive and hedonistic, some of them, but I do need to lighten up.
I definitely went through a period where I liked some of that music, but I can’t stand to listen to any of it now. Probably the fastest 180 I’ve ever had towards an entire genre of music.
I used to like a couple of Mumford and Sons songs till they masked off as fash and invited Jordan Peterson to their studio.
You have to hand it to the guy — he’s managed to make being the banjo player in Mumford & Sons the second-most embarrassing thing about him.
— Article, Ex-Mumford & Sons Banjoist Becomes Conservative Blogger, Somehow Contributing Even Less to Society
Fascist banjoists are fucking weird to me. There’s a complicated, racist history to this black instrument that it’s a shock someone can harbor such attitudes.
Lol no fucking way
Fun fact - the producer of the new Depeche Mode album said this in an interview a couple of months ago:
“Well, the one I wish I’d never done was that fucking Mumford record [2015’s ‘Wilder Mind’]! […] “I don’t know why I did that. It paid for my house but it’s the record I regret doing.”
Hahahahaha
I used to like Mumford and Sons songs until I found out they were British. Was like finding out Santa isn’t real.
Was like finding out Santa isn’t real.
Like you knew Mumford and Sons were British but dressing up not to disappoint you until you were old enough to know by which someone in school had already ruined it or you’d found the presents Mudford and sons had hidden in their bedroom for Christmas day?
I mean I always knew they weren’t actually from the American countryside and it was just a costume. I always knew it was, but I did have the illusion ruined by someone else in school tho
That must have been particularly traumatic
im sorry that happened 
Mate, I’m still trying to process learning Creedence Clearwater were from C*lifornia
Northern Cali has plenty of legitimate hick spots, forgivable
No it doesn’t:
“Born on the Bayou”, “Cotton fields”, “Green River”, etc. All those songs cosplaying as southerners for what???
They sound great but why the fuck would you pretend to be from 2000 km away
I did not know that, but I feel relieved to have critiqued their music years ago when someone played it. Felt like they would be open to right wing, rightist popular, national focused content with some sprinkles of misogyny.
I’m so guilty of not understanding or hearing lyrics and just making up my own lol so I never even picked up on the content and just liked hearing this band at a festival.
The Jordan Peterson stuff was a bit of a wake up call.
Now im unironically curious. Could you. Or someone else link some of the music you all are talking about ? Because I have no idea what it would sound like.
IVE BEEN SLEEPING IN MY BEEED
THIS IS GONNA BE THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
imagine a car commercial
Lumineers “Ho Hey,” the ultimate song in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoSe_KAQEr8
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I think this genre bugged me more than any other bad genre because I really liked the previous era of indie rock - early Arcade Fire, Broken Social Scene, Wolf Parade, Neutral Milk Hotel, Animal Collective, The Unicorns, Stars, Final Fantasy/Owen Pallett, The Microphones, ahhh, I’m getting powerful nostalgia just listing them out. Not that all these bands sounded similar to each other, but there was this weirdo/folko/p4k-zone that they all occupied that I found really moving and relatable, I think cause most of the people making it were depressed and anxious or otherwise mentally ill like me.
When all this stomp/clap “indie” bullshit started it felt like they took music I love, stripped everything interesting from it, and gave it to the rich kids with no problems that were often CAUSING me mental illness. It felt like some cruel ironic punishment from Greek mythos.
Same. I’ve always thought of frightened rabbit in particular as more of a touchstone than they get credit for. A lot of their earlier stuff sounds like the groundwork for this fake ass bullshit that came after. Shame, because they were actually really good.
Holy shit I love Stars they’re still one of my most listened bands, and if you don’t count listening to Hybrid Theory on repeat when I was 12, In Our Bedroom After the War is probably my most repeated album of all time.
Nana Grizol inherited the NMH brass section, and they really are the most precious band in existence and I will buy every shirt sticker and button they ever put out.
Wait, is it the same musicians?
Just the horns players but yeah.
I feel the exact same. I loved most of those names you listed, and my poor Sufjan banjo brain was not ready for the onslaught of assembly line indie that came barreling in after them.
Some of those original indie darlings are goddamn weird people, and they brought all their quirks into their music. There’s a very messy personal artistry you get with bands like The Microphones or Neutral Milk Hotel that is completely polished away in the generation of indie bands that exploded in the early 10’s.
I’m glad some of the earlier scene is alive still though. I saw Owen live this year and I can tell you he is still fucking killing it.
there is a fucking thing called “the dead south” and they are like my curse . Youtube does not stop recomending me theeir fucking Song to me …
they walk a Railwaytrack and are all dressed in this 20’s folksy clap step way … and its probably hunting me since this shit was In ,…they mus be the Most Nepo of Nepo … real bad vibes musi
Keep it dead
Things that should be dead:
The South
Evil
Presidents
Kennedys
Great addition!
A couple years ago I got hit with the same campaign. Idk what changed about my online presence but for a few months I heard that song several times a day and then one day it just stopped. I’m sorry to have passed the cursed AdSense profile on to you but I’m not sorry to be rid of it.
It has also stopped mostly sometimes it still pops up but its power has diminshed … I have since then acended to a new “Fuck anglo Music in general” status so i dont know if i killed it by this nuke option , but like a unforgiving master, i have teached my algorithm.
Thanks for the links, I love these!
One of my friends still really likes this music
Mumford and sons, lumineers, x ambassadors, that type of garbage
So I guess there’s a market for it somewhere
I like some of it in a “nostalgic shit music i used to like when i didn’t have much of an identity”, so yeah.
does clap your hands say yeah fit under this category?
I only know the name of that band because I have Satan said dance likes on Spotify. So I do not know
I don’t think so. They can be kind of folksy but clap your hands say yeah are distinctly different, weird, and interesting in a way Lumineers and Mumford are not.
lol i was thinking about doing a halloween costume based around exposed suspenders, flop undercut, beard, and full sleeve tattoos. because that is 1000% NOT my look, but i could affect it quickly for maybe $20 in materials. it’s sort of my thing to wear a costume that is obviously a costume, but also has like a dozen answers to “what are you dressed as?” and let people guess.
last year i wore a track suit, a flat cap. dyed my facial hair, and had a bunch of fake tattoos on my face, fingers, hands and neck. funniest guess was “post malone”.
i got the idea one year because i dressed up as “anti fascist santa” and the libs always guessed i was “some kind of terrorist”, which still makes me laugh.
“anti fascist santa”
half the presents are snacks and water bottles and the other half are molotovs
anti fascist santa
Not Santifa?
with the people i know, that joke would absolutely slay in my mind but basically everyone would think it was some knock off instant coffee brand.
sleigh in your mind
I hated it when it came out but I’ve been going back to it recently.
The older you get the more you have nostalgia for different times. You don’t only have nostalgia for your childhood. You’ll have it for your teenage years, college, your 20s, etc. This music was big when I was in college so that’s what it reminds me of.
I concede that it has nothing to do with the quality of the music.
my experience of music and culture was objectively better when i had less health problems
there, I just solved nostalgia
The older you get the more you have nostalgia for different times. You don’t only have nostalgia for your childhood. You’ll have it for your teenage years, college, your 20s, etc. This music was big when I was in college so that’s what it reminds me of.
The real sign that you’re old is when you have nostalgia about that time when you have nostalgia.
I concede that it has nothing to do with the quality of the music.
You’re better than the vast majority, who confuse nostalgia with quality all the time.
imagine dragons survived and it’s doing worse shit than that
I went to a department store with a large sortiment of music CDs recently and as it turns out, it seems their album is pretty unpopular, considering the stack was full.
that comment does me well. it does me well.
There’s this song called “Life Goes On” and whenever I heard it I always thought it was Imagine Dragons but it turned out it was some guy named Oliver Tree. I have no idea how he’s popular https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8F2s8ivKXNY&pp=ygULb2xpdmVyIHRyZWU%3D
horrible song lol, but he had a couple viral hits on tiktok a few years back as well that are less detestable (but still bad)
Imagine dragging my balls across their faces.
They’re on the Starfield soundtrack lol
this made me audibly laugh and beg “no, no, no”. thats so fucking funny jesus christ
:(
And why is their lead singer always so angry?
He’s Mormon
ah, the religious wing of the
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Rich people should be identified and shunned when they create music
Lmao
Never ask a chart music person why their parents names are blue on Wikipedia.
they’re all rich unless they’re some sort of local novelty noise punk band barely scraping by through dive bar performances. or alternatively, an exception
uuhh ??
lmao he’s joking
but frankly we’re like one more imagine dragons away from white people having their music privileges taken forever
I’m sure he is…
okay, good? i’d be worried about your reading comprehension if you weren’t, since it’s pretty obvious.
Deleted cuz it did kinda suck lol. Will admit it, I thought longer about it an just only know pop music from the west
Lmao this is delusional.
There’s plenty of local scenes and there’s plenty of people that do it for fun or passion (actually the majority) and some of those are very lucky to cut thru the line of nepo-babies.Yeah I’ll tak the L, shitty take. Was making a classic mistake of hating capitalism but conflating it with western culture. There’s good and I was in a pissy mood and forgot. Good crit
No worries
This is incoherent.
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White Americans shouldn’t be allowed to make music. Some of the euros are alright
Fuck it dude I’m saying it
Some white people make good music
Controversial take, but I’ll allow it.
BLAME IT ON MY A.D.D.!
WAKING UP
TO ASH AND DUST
I WIPE MY ASS
AND SLAP MUH NUTS
All these guys work at gourmet $20 burger joints now
The cool part is that all of these places taste the same and fries are extra 👍
But they’re not restaurants! They’re a gastropub, or even an eatery.
Those places tend to be like a temple to whatever rich jackoff owns it, with pompous slogans and insincere epiphanies scribbled over the wallpaper, on the tables, even in the fucking restrooms.
I hate that shit so much.
You use eatery because you’re a redditor.
I use eatery because I can’t spell restaurant without help from auto correct.
We are not the same.
remember, you can’t have a restaurant without a taur
Omg why are so many of those pictures unapologetically horny lmao
Someone call the volcel police
The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.
you got a problem w that?
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it’s fur affinity lol
Lol I’ve never visited before 🤣
furry art site that also allows nsfw content
Omg why are so many of those pictures unapologetically horny lmao
“Tell me about it.”Someone call the volcel police
“Do you know we have an armor division now? It’s on its way.”
The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.
“Do you know we have an armor division now? It’s on its way.”
THEY FLY NOW!
it’s easy, you just have to remember that it’s PECTOPAH in russian…
Oh nice my problems are solved
This is William the bastard’s fault. The Fr*nch ruined English spelling.
Like we need any more reasons to dislike
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You forgot about mentioning how it’s located in a highly gentrified area
I still like The Lumineers…
Cleopatra is an awesome album, but I haven’t enjoyed their more recent stuff as much.
That’s the album I have! I just listened to it the other day while doing dishes.
OH Ophelia, you been on my mind girl since the flood!
I unironically do not believe bad music exists. There are genres we subjectively find annoying or distasteful but there is absolutely no such thing as objectively bad music/low quality music.
I mean, music that is soulless and obviously low-effort in its production exists, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to it being bad.
The only music I can’t stomach is the white nationalist sort of country music, the stuff all about beer, god, driving a truck. Bleh. It’s so cloying and clearly made by middle class suburban ghouls pretending to be rural country people. I include that Oliver Anthony idiot here, and Jason Aldean. The worst culprit is Luke Bryan. Just propagandists working for coordinated fascists, all of them.
I gotta ask what you think of musicians who make music that’s intentionally supposed to be bad. Like Lou Reed possibly made Metal Machine Music as an insult to his record company. Bob Dylan made the album “Self Portrait” bad on purpose as well. My personal favorite is Hanatarash, who made music so inaccessible their performances were actually dangerous. They’d include construction equipment like jackhammers in their music, and one time they had to be stopped from throwing a lit molotov cocktail on stage. They eventually got banned from every venue in Japan for insurance reasons.
Then there’s Hello Kitty Suicide Club which is on a different level
Sometimes, music that’s made to be “intentionally bad” ends up having people who like it anyways. Like the one dude on TikTok who tried to make an “objectively bad song” but accidentally made kickass breakcore
I’d bet that people who intentionally make bad music end up making music that sucks according to the people that like the genre they’re making, not music that’s universally bad
If the stomp clap hey genre didn’t exist, I’d be completely agree.
I was tempted to say something like this but I thought it’d take away from my point
i think you’re right, and its a great post. 
i just have to hate on this musicI think making a joke about it is a lot less weird than the tendency to say a specific genre is “bad” without any trace of irony. When it’s joked about, it draws attention to how absurd the idea of objectively judging music is- while also giving you the ability to express your distaste for a specific genre at the same time.
Like being “racist” towards white people, it subverts the norm in a way that seems to conform to it at first.
And, to be clear, I have never heard this genre of music and don’t plan to after this thread.
I listened to the examples discussed in this thread and I’m like… it’s fine? I guess they’re kinda hipstery but it’s fine what’s the big deal.
To each there own comrade
The music people hate the most is what played when they worked retail.
Oh this post is giving me flashbacks. To restaurants instead of retail but
On one hand that shit sucks on the other hand without it high school me wouldn’t have been sent down the rabbit hole into actual 60s folk revival and Pete Seeger and shit so who can say if it’s good or bad.
