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The game is kinda meh from what I’ve seen? Any positive impressions?
Still downloading for me, but I see more than one review saying it takes a long time to get good. I’m keeping my expectations low.
EDIT: Glad I was warned it starts slow. It does get better if you stick with it.
EDIT 2: It entertained me for a week. It’s no Skyrim, or even Fallout. I would have been pissed if I’d paid for it.
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So it’s more Destiny than No Man’s Sky.
Best comparison I’ve heard (by Gopher, if I recall correctly) is Outer Worlds, but less silly, and bigger by several orders of magnitude.
Yeah Outer Worlds was awesome but very limited. So limited that it almost felt linear.
Starfield really does look and run great.
Run great? Absolutely not.
I get 120fps in Elden Ring at medium, 2070, 64gb ram, i9-12900k.
Just got done with Armored Core, rock solid 144fps at medium all the way through, never a blip.
This runs at 30fps on lowest settings. It runs like absolute crap. It’s incredibly jarring to go from games that are gorgeous and well made with high performance to this thing running like something 20 years ago. Absolutely zero optimisation.
It will get a seriously negative response from the average pc user when user reviews start hitting due to this performance.
The most positive I’ve heard is that it is a by the numbers Bethesda rpg game. It doesn’t try to be anything more. If you liked fallout 4 and skyrim odds are you’ll like this.
What if I liked FO3 and New Vegas and hated FO4?
Then you have good taste in games.
What if I liked Fallout 76?
Nobody’s perfect.
FO3 was kind of a disaster in terms of narrative and roleplay. And the established world building.
They got rid of the dialogue wheel and went back to a list of options (influenced by character background / skills), so at least there’s that, I suppose.
Then you are objectively right
Then wait a few months and check some of the in-depth reviews before investing your time. Bethesda’s most well known for its looter shooters with RPG styling.
I imagine this will follow in similar footsteps. It’ll be well designed, well armed, but it’s not going to be an RPG where your decisions have lasting impact. But hopefully I’m wrong
I’ve heard nothing but good things about gameplay. But it runs like shit on most systems. A RTX 3080 at 1440p ultra can’t get 60 fps in cities.
Im not pre-ordering piracy either.
Im waiting for the reviews.
Go watch people actually play it in twitch or steam or YouTube. See if you like it. Why wait for someone else’s opinion?
And also, the “early access” is just a way to get people to pay more for the game in the first week.
By all reasonable standards, the game has been fully released.
“Pre-ordering piracy”… What does that even mean?
The review embargo was lifted with the start of the early access, meaning that all the regular review channels that received review copies have already posted their content.
That’s not “pre-ordering”. Go write the reviews
Reviews hit yesterday, check your preferred gaming sites
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I got installed the game, when i start it steam opens up and give a “no license” prompt
I forgot to tick a box that copies the crack install dir
you probably didn’t copy the crack over
Install the crack on top of it
They fast as fuck. Another W for the pirates.
“Cracked” meaning having replaced a dll file
Exactly; this just needed an emulator like goldberg
Bethesda games usually don’t go for heavy DRM stuff (beyond the basic steam DRM), because it impairs modding (especially injection / nonofficial modding, stuff like SKSE for skyrim)
I have to applaud Bethesda for this decision, it is something that is very nice for the end user.
It really is a big move, since it likely cost them millions in early sales.
I probably would have bought it already if I couldn’t find a crack, but now I can pirate and wait for a nice sale.
I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Tbh what you’re doing is exactly what I did too with Skyrim. Downloaded a crack played for probably 1k hours and then bought it just to play 1k more
Doom Eternal has Denuvo.
And is developed by ID software, not Bethesda Game Studios. Bethesda the publisher has different tactics when it comes to games not developed by BGS.
It had denuvo but the game shipped with a denuvo-less exe so it was “cracked” day 1 lol.
Mighta been the 2016 doom but regardless it was funny lol
It was developed by ID I believe, bethesda only published the game.
They don’t even replace the DLL file for you! After you run the RUNE installer, you have to copy the emulator yourself
You can just click the checkbox for “Copy crack to install directory” to get the installer to do everything for you.
I’m not sure why that isn’t the default.
Is RUNE or IGGAMESCOM trustworthy?
I’ve never had a problem with them.
RUNE cracked Baldur’s Gate 3 recently.
Which is DRM free…
Imagine cracking a game that’s already on gog lmao
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Rune is. A lot of people don’t like IGG, but I’ve never had a problem with it. You gotta be good at dealing with ads and such though.
Hol-eee shit. My GTX 1070 doesn’t meet minimum requirements…and it just won’t boot? Oh wow.
It runs like absolute crap. I have a 2070 with i9-12900k and 64gb ram and get 30fps on the LOWEST settings. That’s it.
I run Elden Ring at 120fps and just got done with Armored Core that ran at 144fps rock solid medium settings all the way through without a single blip.
The performance is unbelievably atrocious.
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Yeah it runs rock solid. I get the impression FS must have good employee retention and have very good methods for building employee skills, so over time they’ve only improved. On top of hiring and acquiring some of the best staff that must have existed in other Japanese studios. No idea how they actually treat the employees, could be like shit because it’s Japanese work culture, but something about them is producing content that is consistently a cut above everything. They’re getting up there like Rockstar in terms of quality but based in Japan instead of the UK.
Gamers nexus had gtx 1070 in their starfield performance review, so it can work on a 1070. 30fps on low settings I think though.
The 1070 is the official minimum requirement.
1070Ti
If you’ve got windows 10 try updating to 22h2 (no, really; a consequence of Bethesda being acquired by Microsoft, I suspect), and update your GPU drivers.
That got it running on my 980ti, so it should also work with the 1070.
Or it’s a consequence of the fact that all earlier windows 10 (non enterprise) versions are end of service.
I highly doubt it’s done intentionally. 21H2 probably misses a feature or they just didn’t care about 21H2 because why should they.
Yeah, I think it’s probably having to do with how Wine/Lutris emulates the Windows version, that makes it think it’s an older version. I’ll try on a real Windows partition…
Did u try adding it as a non-steam game directly on Steam and not using Lutris? I’ve tried both on my EndeavourOS PC and find that for whatever reason, it runs much better via Steam vs Lutris.
Who the hell are they expecting is going to play this game? Only trust fund kids?
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Steam system requirements say RX5700 minimum. Recommended is RX6800XT, which was ludicrously expensive last I checked. Also I need a much newer CPU.
In this economy, that’s gonna be a no from me.
We knew the game would be demanding when MS announced 30FPS only on both consoles. And this time it isn’t a CPU bottleneck
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Dude, the 1080 came out in 2016, that was just… oh.
Adults with jobs?
I’m an adult with a job, and I don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of affording the recommended system requirements for this game any time soon. RX6800XTs do not grow on trees.
It’ll burn your house down
Been trying to run it on an rx480 and it hiccups and crashes so much lol
“Pirates? I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over the gazillion sales we’re about to make.” —Bethesda, probably
The extra cost “early access” stuff just encourages piracy. I’m paying for gamepass, so I’m already paying for access in four days. I’m still tempted to pirate it. It’s probably going to be a better product than dealing with Xbox crap on PC, but I could also play now.
Sixteen times the details*Already made. They’ve got like 200k+ $100 deluxe version sales already, the base game hasn’t even officially launched
Awe as a dev this kind of bums me out a little. I wonder that they used for DRM. Those sales go directly to the devs in way of raises and retention.
Granted this is not EA where i worked, but if you enjoy the game, i encourage you to buy it.
Also NOTE: I DO NOT SUPPORT DRM, just the pay checks of the devs as i was one for quite some time.
I agree with you, but I think both of us about to be downvoted by these cheapskates lol
I’ve thought about this. I think that happened was because of timelines, they released a super early build, fuckin producers.
It’s not the worst thing for an early access game to be cracked, honestly. If the game is has more eyes, that’s great. I am curious about what is out now however.
I am also curious about if the cracked version can be updated with content once the game goes live. Like i have no idea when that is or if it has already happened.
Totally agree on the paycheck. However we need to stop acting like piracy is bad only. Buy the things you really enjoy and support the creator(s).
Back in the days a friend suggested i buy Skyrim and i was like: “Uuh not sure if i want to spend that kind of money on a 2yo game”. But since he was quite a fan, i pirated it. Soon after I bought the LE version and today it is still my most played game.
NGL: i also pirated many things of which i never bought the original version. But because of the bay i also bought some things i most likely wouldn’t have without.
I don’t think piracy is bad lol i do think mega corporate publishers have bad practices for sure. Like cool, the one i worked for is publicly traded. Awesome. Every action is greed motivated. I hate that.
Every time i loose hope in games i just play undertale and ignore the world. >.>
Yup.
I was vaguely interested in Dark Souls for years, but every time I tried, I bounced right off it. I went through a cycle where every year or two, I would pirate one of the souls games, try it out, give up on it after an hour or so, and do it all over again the next time I was sufficiently compelled to give the series another shot. This happened until several years ago when I tried Dark Souls II, and for some reason it finally clicked. I played my pirated copy of Dark Souls II for about 10 hours, before a random crash corrupted my save file.
After that happened, I immediately bought the game on Steam and proceeded to play it for the next month and a half, until I eventually beat it. I’ve since purchased every souls game plus Elden Ring on Steam, and recently imported a copy of Bloodborne GOTY edition after spending $700 on an exploitable PS5, just so I could play it at 60FPS. None of these legitimate purchases would have ever happened if I hadn’t been able to repeatedly pirate Dark Souls for about five years.
You realize this is a forum, actually a whole instance, that centers around piracy, right?
Yeah! You also realize this is a group full of intelligent people right? It’s the whole reason why i chose this instance.
Intelligent enough not to pirate?
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What do you mean you’re a saltbox contributor? How does that fit into context?
Is there a torrent somewhere…?
resources in the Megathread link pinned to the community can lead you there.
Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did.
Steam/windows store drm it seems.
Bethesda Game Studios games don’t have DRM like Denuvo. BGS and Bethesda Softworks are two different entities. ID, MachineGames and other Zenimax studios tend to have DRM, not BGS.
On the other hand, didn’t Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched? So what would they even protect, 76?
No, Denuvo was first used in Sept. 2014 and Fallout 4 came out Nov. 2015.
Why did you start with No?
“Didn’t Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched?”
“No, it came out a bit more than a year earlier.”
Ah. Well F4 didn’t have it on launch
None of them do. It would fuck with people’s ability to make mods for them.
Not necessairly (well, goodbye to Starfield Script Extender in that case). But I think it’s more that Gamebryo can’t integrate Denuvo lol
It would also be unplayably slow. Bethesda games aren’t known for performance even without Denuvo slowing them down.
Lets not pretend that there aren’t Denuvo games without performance issues…
Unless I’m mistaken, Denuvo constantly encrypts and decrypts everything in the process’ memory, including executable code, in order to conceal it. There is no way to do that without massive performance overhead.
There are uncracked Denuvo games to this day that don’t have performance issues. Not everyone is incompetent in implementing it. That doesn’t mean I’m defending it (but Reddit/Lemmy will like to take any sort of non-attack as defense sooooo), I’m just saying that there are Denuvo games that don’t suffer performance issues.
Now imagine how fast they’d be without Denuvo.
True. I guess I thought that because “ghost wire Tokyo” and “redfall” do. But makes sense for a game like starfield to not
redfall
Best copyright protection for Redfall is that the game is shit and nobody wants to play it.
Which sucks, because Arkane was one of my favorite developers before the quality of their output fell off over the past five years. I loved the Dishonored games, and Prey is the single best immersive sim ever made. I was looking forward to DeathLoop, but it ended up being kinda meh, and Redfall has been so universally panned that I haven’t even bothered to try it.
I read that most of the people working there were kinda just hoping it would get canceled eventually. The game industry is so normal and fine.
Those aren’t BGS games. Bethesda that developes =/= bethesda that publishes. The latter likes DRM
Yeah those games are only published by Bethesda, not developed. Their in house games never have DRM, unless you count steam.
Bethesda is a publisher as well which explains that
WTF?! The game is not even released on steam yet? Are they cracking the preloaded version?
AFAIK the digital deluxe edition allows you to start playing 5 days early.
Why would you want to play a Bethesda game 5 days early? The best time is several months after release, when the community has had time to fix the bugs.
Can confirm. Started playing this morning.
What’s your opinion so far?
Skyrim in space. Exactly what I was hoping it would be.
Except when I stole some dude’s sandwich, instead of being arrested he just said “Hey that’s my sandwich!” And then sighed, defeated
Definitely a better experience already than Skyrim
Are there any small pets or chickens for you to murder and get a massive bounty on your head?
There is no “play 5 days early”. The game launched on 1st of September. But those who can’t afford to shell out 100 Euros have to wait 5 more days. Microsoft did the same bullshit with Forza. I didn’t like it back then, I won’t like it now.
There was a 5 day early access, at least on gamepass.
I have gamepass ultimate and it says I can’t play till the 6th
Have to buy deluxe. Timed exclusive bullshit.
Do you keep the game if you get the “Deluxe Upgrade” on GamePass? Or do you have to keep paying the subscription if you want to play?
No, not sure how they handle it. I think the upgrade applies to either a purchased version or Game Pass version, but if you don’t buy or sub, you wasted $35
I was playing it last night on steam. I needed a new GPU recently and it came with a code to download it. 🤷♂️
Which GPU did you get?
For me, I got a Framework 16 and the GPU module came with a code.
Does this mean I can pirate it early? 😮
Something is available, whether or not its safe is another story.
I got nothing to care about. I can nuke my drives at any time and not feel the loss. Plus Dauphong has never let me down.
Alrighty well feel free to reach out, I’ll be heading to bed in a second here but magnets are just so interesting it’s worth discussing
Nothing popped up when scanning it. Not even the crack being flagged as a crack.
Game runs like ass tho. Everything but my GPU meets recommended. I still have a 1660 Super. Get anywhere between 30 and 60 with low settings, depending on where I am and what’s going on. First game in a while to just cripple my shit. 😩
It’s running well for SWIM but the hardware is a 5800X3D and a 3080 so it would be a shame if it didn’t.
Some areas are another than others though, classic Skyrim
It’s weird how being in a small room gets me about 32 fps, but then going outside into a forest I get 60. Usually it’s the other way around, with interiors being the faster zone. 🤷🏻♂️
I’ve seen some others getting similar results on a 3080 with the same CPU (Rysen 5 3600X) I have though, so now I’m not even sure upgrading my hardware would make a difference and it’s probably just classic Bethesda optimizations.
It’s up on IPT already
What is IPT?
IPTorrents, a private BitTorrent tracker.
Shhh
Yes, but it’s huge, over 100GB. BG3 all over again!
I would think that it’s cheap availability on GamePass and likelihood of frequent updates would make for a muted response to this one.
Plus I don’t think it was protected to start with for modding purposes. People will be flying around in Thomas the Tank Engine by the end of next week.
For these reasons, I’d rather buy Bethesda games. As a company, they aren’t assholes. I’d hate for them to get bought out by ea or something like all the rest.
You forgot Fallout76 and their own shitty launcher, well and the fact that Microsoft bought them already…
And horse armour.
And all their attempts at turning modding into a walled garden they could control and profit from.
At least they don’t tread modders like Rockstar, well at least not yet I guess.
As a company, they aren’t assholes
It’s just locker room sexual assault
Yes. Paid mods never existed.
My only beef with them is their complete disregard for QA but, in the end, they’re right.
We’ll do it for them.
Well, and watering down the social commentary in their Fallouts to an absurd degree.
Can’t wait for Fallout 5 to say “AKSHUALLY, it was all China’s fault and capitalism is based and Vault Tec was justified. Join the Brotherhood or die, trash.”
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Yes, that would be terrible for them to be bought by somebody like MS.
While you’re absolutely right to point out they have already been bought by Microsoft. I think we can all admit MS has had an unbelievably better track record with acquiring studios than EA.
Pretty low bar you’ve set there…
As is Bethesda tradition.
I would think that it’s cheap availability on GamePass and likelihood of frequent updates would make for a muted response to this one.
The performance is absolute crap I think everyone should pirate it just to send a message. Like holy crap it’s awful.
I found an optimized ini file on nexusmods that has the game running real well and still looking pretty good. Good lord though yeah the performance is awful.
I think I’d rather play something I enjoy instead.
