Chrome OS saw a good raise too. OS X(Mac) saw a decrease.
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Oh yeah
This is the year
All the linux fanboys just ejaculated at once
The revolution is coming!
I kind of don’t want Linux to become mainstream tbh because then corporate enshittification becomes a much more real threat.
They’ve already tried. Ever heard of Ubuntu?
That’s why you just use a community run distro. Also if the kernel it self gets enshittified then I’m sure there will be a fork someone will make. Heck right now there’s the libre kernel that is just the Linux kernel with no proprietary blobs
These corporate interests are the reason it works so good. If you read into the Linux mailing list, major lifting is done by these companies.
Intel, AMD, Suse, Red Hat to name a few, all they follow are their corporate interests.
Some things just need money to be thrown at, i don’t have a problem with benefiting from money of corporations. It also makes it more accessible for people who are not able or willing to pay.
There are paid distros already out there, but there will always be the option to ignore them.
You cannot enshittify the GPL 🥹
Is this actually Linux gaining any significant new mindshare, or is it just that the use of desktops is in relative decline, and the holdouts are going to be the more linux-inclined?
Doesn’t the inclusion of other platforms make Linux mindshare look even better?
Are steam decks included in this because Im pretty sure valve has sold a LOT of them.
Partly my fault - I have that page set to auto open on my browser every week
It’s ok, I’ve never been on that site and I changed windows to tumbleweed nearly 2 months ago on my laptop.
Is Linux actually growing, or are other users simply buying fewer computers because their phones have reduced the need for personal computers?
I didn’t crunch the numbers, but as far as I see, most of the linux growth comes from the Steam deck, which runs a Linux OS.
This could also be the reason for the decrease of OSX, because more other, non classical computer, devices are included, which automatically reduces the share of Laptop and PC devices.
So there is a similar percentage of users in the desktop and laptop space as before but more Linux-based handheld systems. Overall market share has become too broad nowadays for at a glance look at percentage of users for each platform as different sectors of systems will have different market share percentages.
I swapped to Linux in the last month. But honestly being able to use my phone as a backup made me not worry about needing a computer right then.
Wow, if it keeps going at this rate, it’ll be the year of Linux on the desktop (50% share) in 2079.
Idk, mass adoption is usually slow at first, and then gets faster as it goes on.
Curious, but good news. Hopefully it doesn’t reverse. We could do with less macs and windows machines.
If I wasn’t a noob gamer I’d have no use for Windows. Unfortunately I’m too dumb to figure out how to make games work, even on Mint.
Wine, lutris and steam are your best friends on linux in terms of gaming
In order of easiness:
- Steam (click and play)
- Heroic (click and play)
- Lutris (search the right game entry, then click and play)
- Bottles (gives you access to some game launchers made for Windows)
I suggest to install all of them with Flatpak to avoid messing up your system different with Wine versions, prefixes and whatnot
It takes less than you think. It’s not always windows-easy but a little troubleshooting and googling is usually all it takes. The biggest sticking point is anti-cheat, if the kind of games you like require it.
I don’t really want Linux to become the dominant OS. I want Microsoft to release Windows under a free software license. Windows is actually not that bad an OS from a purely technical standpoint.
Of course this won’t happen. The day they release it, world will collapse because of the newly discovered vulnerabilities and stuff. Security over obscurity is major player in securities of closed source programs.
There are no longer just 5 of us! There are now 6 of us, YES!
Just an FYI that at this rate it’s only going to take another 115 years before Linux has 100% market share.
That’s fine, there’s no rush.
2138, year of the Linux desktop.
Exacting 100years after y2k38
That’s for August. And the growth is exponential, not linear.
To a point. Let’s be honest it’s going to be more like an S-curve since you can’t go past 100% market share, and some people will refuse to switch.
And people not wanting to switch is fine imo. Having competition will likely help all OS’s get better over time
i mean i’d prefer the competition to be BSD and such, not windows and macos
What if S-curve instead of linear rate?
You mean Linux isn’t going to have 200% market share one day? Shit, I’m starting to think my calculations may have not been totally serious.
Entirely possible if the population dubbles
I get that, I just like math
This is the same logic that a right wing ex-president of my country used to criticize the current leftist president while talking about the COVID-19 vaccination campaign.
Market share is usually a curve.
Why would market share increase linearly?
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Proud to be one of them. I tried to disable the job that runs windows update, they said I don’t have permission, so I switched to Ubuntu on every single computer except the one that runs VR games.
As a bonus, as an enthusiast for artificial intelligence stuff, more programs run on Linux than they do on Windows
Powershell as admin then type set-service wuauserv -startuptype manual; stop-service wuauserv
This will disable the windows update service. If you do want to run updates again (and you should do that regularly), just type start-service wuauserv and use the windows update page in settings.
Linux is still way better though.
On the VR PC you may find O&O ShutUp 10. It has a collection of settings for privacy and generally control over your PC that microsoft didn’t make really accessible.
The critical mass needed to tip the scales is not high. Once Linux has enough market share to matter as a customer base, game studios will switch to developing as cross-platform for it by default, so that they don’t lose launch sales. Once this happens, a lot of people won’t have any reason to stay on windows anymore as gaming was the only thing holding them back. This will then create a virtuous cycle of users migrating and games (and then apps) switching to it. Along then come hardware vendor supporty and then pre-built PCs and laptops. If the tipping point is reach, the rate of market share gain will be exponential.
The same thing happened with Internet Explorer 6
The only thing that can stop this is outside pressure from software giants like Microsoft through lobbying the Governments, buying out game studios or buying exclusivity, or strong-arming hardware vendors.
steam deck is helping a lot on that front.
MacOS holds a nearly 30% market share and few game developers give a shit about publishing their games on Mac. Why would Linux be any different?
Are you including iPhones in this market share?
Although macOS holds a high market share, it holds a smaller percentage of Steam users than Linux right now. Essentially, there’s more people on Linux known to buy games than on Mac (at least on Steam).
Gamers only seem to think that the only reason people have a computer is to game.
30%? Wtf is the source
Apple is notorios about being anti-gaming, yet many games support it while not supporting linux. Don’t know the actual stats though.
If you throw proton and wine into the mix, Linux is almost as good as Windows in game support
Because linux doesn’t have deprecated opengl, doesn’t run their own proprietary api for gpu instead of implementing vulkan and last but not least because linux does still have support for 32bit application.
You can’t build a gaming mac. Or a mac at all. Apple does seem to have better gaming support than Linux does though. The majority of my steam library has macOS support. Only a couple support Linux.
Other than gamers, there’s a huge share of enterprise Windows users. And they’re not likely to shift OS, because of IT admin issues. Others in this thread have commented on how Apple is struggling to get devs to build native games compared to Windows.
Sure the number of home PC users might decline, one can always hope.
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I can actually imagine a scenario where MS actually wants that to happen. They don’t really make money on windows sales anymore (comparatively to their other products). So this could free up quite a lot of resources and reallocate them elsewhere.
The majority of home consumers basically just use browser services anyways.
There are also Windows users who rely on niche business applications. Wine isn’t great for that sort of software yet. Another big one is the creative industry. While the VFX industry is very Linux-focused, and 3D is very viable, other parts of video production are not. And GIMP needs non-destructive editing before it can even think of competing with Photoshop or Affinity Photo. Inkscape is a viable vector image tool. The many other Adobe programs don’t have great alternatives, and if you need to collaborate, that means you all need to switch to a new program. Then there are the retraining costs to consider.
Gamers have the easiest time in switching to Linux. The amount of compromises and sacrifices you need to make in other industries are much greater right now.
However, Adobe is trying to bring some of their programs, like Photoshop, to the web. It’s unlikely we’ll see stuff like After Effects on the web, but Photoshop, Illustrator, maybe even inDesign could possibly, maybe be there in a few years. Photoshop web is already in beta (though it’s garbage). The web continues to be the great equalizer.
I think Krita is a more viable competitor to Photoshop than Gimp at this point… It’s also great for pen tablet drawing and arguably superior in that category.
But yeah, video editors are lacking. Kden live is ok (and awesome for the price)
Audio editors are behind too. Audacity is pretty good for 2 track. Bitwig is a great multitrack alternative to Ableton… But Ardour isn’t developed enough for a pro studio and I’ve never seen one that uses Linux. Part of this is poor support for vst plugins developed for Windows, mostly due to their copy protection.
I think Krita is a more viable competitor to Photoshop than Gimp at this point… It’s also great for pen tablet drawing and arguably superior in that category.
Absolutely agree it’s there for artists. Krita is a very successful project and I hear mainstream artists talk about it often, while not being an artist myself. Well, technically I own a Cintiq…
I haven’t been able to get it to work well with PSDs, though, and I find the interface clunky for the sort of image editing I’m doing. I find GIMP easy enough to use, but it unfortunately lacks some crucial features. 3.0 is right around the corner (for real this time), so I’m hopeful. Unfortunately, PSD is a must because of collaboration. GIMP’s ingest of PSD is better. But Krita does have non-destructive effects.
What I’m really hoping for is Affinity Photo to work well in Wine. Most people can get it running now but I think it’s a little buggy or lacking in performance. I’ll have to give that a shot soon.
But yeah, video editors are lacking. Kden live is ok (and awesome for the price)
As it so happens, I’ve thought about this a lot.
Kdenlive is definitely the best free software option but the lack of hardware accelerated playback really kills it dead in the water for me. I’m hoping it will improve soon, given the success of the fundraiser. DaVinci Resolve is fantastic but needing to transcode footage if you have H.264/AAC source footage (geh, I know, but some of us do) and being stuck with H.264 hardware encode in the best-case scenario is not great. I found Lightworks was the best option in terms of professional features + workflow. Proprietary, but hey, at least it works really well on Linux.
Audio editors are behind too. Audacity is pretty good for 2 track. Bitwig is a great multitrack alternative to Ableton… But Ardour isn’t developed enough for a pro studio and I’ve never seen one that uses Linux. Part of this is poor support for vst plugins developed for Windows, mostly due to their copy protection.
That’s a shame to hear! I don’t work with audio on a very professional level, so Audacity is fine for my use cases. It’s improved in a significant way since the Muse Group acquisition (mainly non-destructive editing, but plenty of other stuff). I’m also annoyed but unsurprised to hear that DRM has thwarted compatibility yet again.
Reaper can go toe-to-toe with any DAW, including Pro Tools.
I work in audio for film and television, and we would all drop Pro Tools and switch to Logic/Nuendo/Studio One/Reaper if Avid didn’t have a legacy stranglehold on the Audio Post industry.
