One officer is seen standing at her door and repeatedly telling her to “get out of the car”.
“For what?” she responds twice, adding: “I’m not going to do that.”
One officer seen in front of the car has his left hand on the hood, his gun drawn in the other hand.
“Are you going to shoot me?” she says moments before a single shot is fired and the officer quickly moves out of the car’s path.
The cop who killed her was in no danger, and has time to casually stroll out of the way of the vehicle.
What he doesn’t have is a name or a face — as often happens, the police haven’t been named, and their faces have been blurred in the video.
Why?
If they weren’t cops — if they were just a pair of random dudes killing a black pregnant woman, and there was video footage — would their names remain secret, their faces blurred?
Look at the ‘related’ links at the bottom of that BBC page…
No charges for officers who fatally shot black man Published 17 April
Black man was shot 46 times by US police - autopsy Published 15 July 2022
Ohio black man shot 60 times by police, video shows Published 4 July 2022
I think it’s no wonder she tried to get away. Her fault was to not step on the gas HARD.
We need to get rid of the police. They’re nothing but gangsters
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They wouldn’t have qualified immunity
She was shoplifting. These fuckers are murderers, plain and simple.
ALLEGEDLY shoplifting! The store worker could have been confused and it could be as simple as that, we don’t even know if she did the thing
This is one of the reasons I refuse to shop at my local Meijer stores. Their fucking registers are quick to accuse you of stealing something, and you’re treated as guilty by the employees even if you try to prove that the machine is wrong.
I know more than one person who has had this experience, chiefly my sister who already has severe social anxiety. She won’t step foot there again.
One has been banned since the first time she went because the employees confused her with someone that actually shoplifted. They called in the cops, who told her should be trespassed if she came back.
Fuck these systems.
She was suspected of shoplifting. We have due process for a reason.
Fuck cops.
Even if she committed a crime, cops are not judge jury and executioner.
A judge with a conscience would give them the death penalty for this
No shit? Really??? I never would’ve guessed /s
I don’t see the need to immediately gun someone down. She’s in a car for fuck’s sake, note down the plate and visit her when she’s calmed down.
The car she was driving didn’t have license plates, not that it makes any difference with respect to the shooting.
Then let her go, because the alleged crime isn’t worth escalating the situation to the point where someone could be harmed. Follow the car if you need to, but in this case you probably don’t need to. The cops had no need to escalate the situation, but they enjoy it.
I don’t disagree.
With that kind of thinking, you’ll never make it as a cop — a high compliment indeed.
You’re right, I should always preface my questions with shooting.
I’m surprised all the bootlickers I saw in the other thread about the body camera footage aren’t in here defending the cop, claiming their life was threatened, aren’t in here. What bullshit that was.
Both officers, who have not been identified, were in the parking lot for an unrelated call.
Footage shows officers attempting to question her for alleged shoplifting.
So they are there for something completely unrelated. Then just decide to question pregnant woman about shoplifting and fucking shoot her??? That’s not even why you’re there!!! What the fuck happened and I’m sorry stolen property, especially corporate property, should not warrant taking a life.
Oh wait sorry but SA survivors, even children, can’t have an abortion, and they are willing to take doctors to court for it. Because life is precious. Until it’s taken by a cop.
So they are there for something completely unrelated.
This is the ‘official’ story that the police gave:
Belford said the two officers were in the Kroger parking lot helping someone who was having a car problem when a store employee alerted them to Young, alleging she had taken multiple bottles of alcohol from the store without paying.
Multiple bottles of alcohol without paying? Wow, definitely worthy of execution. There’s no defending these murderous cops.
By wearing the badge, they’re the chosen whites
Chosen to have their noses closest to a hypothetical wall.
Cops were and are over-represented in covid death statistics because
Some of those who work forces want the paste that’s for horses.
They straight up murdered this woman because she refused their illegal commands. That really pissed them off. You can see them seething in the video. Some bag boy claimed she was shoplifting and the cops killed her for an imaginary profit margin.
I don’t think their commands were illegal, rspecit if she was a suspected shoplifter. Then again, even pulling out a gun for a shoplifter is something you only really see in america, this is insane
This guy is a murderer. What they were doing before that was 100% legal. If someone broke into your house and stole from you and cops happened to be right outside, she couldn’t get away with it by just not opening the car door and driving away straight into a police officer when the cops came over. If she were innocent and complied, bonus! She could’ve probably successfully sued the store and the cops. Instead, she refused and started running over one of them with her car.
I was pulled over once for driving the speed limit with a car full of family. The cops asked for my license and our names, asked what we were doing and we gave them everything. They apologized and explained that everyone speeds on that street and they’d found that road to be used for stolen cars. That was it. 3 minutes and we drove away. If I had refused to give them anything and started driving away while a cop was in front of my car, I’d have at least gone to prison. That cop should be in jail. Her behavior was terrible.
Instead, she refused and started running over one of them with her car.
That line is such tired cop propaganda, and untrue.
You’re misrepresenting what happened here. She pulled the car ahead, yes, but only moved forward at a speed less than the speed the cop could walk backwards. So characterizing it as “started running over one of them with her car” is a little inaccurate, don’t you think?
And the cops were beside the car and then for some reason, one guy moved around in front of the car. I suspect he did this because she started the engine or in some other way indicated she was going to drive away. If that was the case, the cop put himself into a dangerous situation over a shoplifting accusation. So that means any argument that he was afraid doesn’t fly with me because he made the mistake of putting himself in that situation.
And yeah, I’ve never had problems with police because I don’t break the law either. But after seeing enough videos I’ve come to realize that I don’t have problems with police because a) yeah, I don’t break the law, but also because b) I’m white. That second factor that can’t be ignored in all of this. If it were a white woman would this situation have gone down the same way?
And the cop feeling threatened (because of a situation he put himself in) also applies to the woman. Was she trying to drive away because she was afraid? I suppose she can’t give testimony now, so that’s convenient for the cops, isn’t it?
The cop fucked up by putting himself in front of a running car, and then murdered a woman for slowly moving that car forward. None of their actions are defensible.
It’s possible for both people to have been in the wrong. That woman wasn’t a murderer, so let’s remember degrees of wrong, but she definitely wasn’t innocent. One of cops’ literal jobs is to catch criminals who don’t want to be caught. That’s why they approached her and probably why he stood in front of the car. They weren’t accosting some rando on the street. What they did wrong was drawing a gun, pointing it at a person, and pulling the trigger when not in mortal danger.
I don’t appreciate that in these situations, everyone lines up on one side or the other and whomever we’ve decided to defend could have done no wrong. The wrongdoers were wrong in every possible way. It’s mob mentality. And then we wonder why those on the other side can’t see things our way. Hyperbole helps nobody.
So the cops didn’t take down the license plate? The job of the police is to maintain law and order. Escalating a situation so they can gun someone down in a parking lot is the exact opposite of maintain order. Instead of of doing the sensible thing of allowing the person leave the parking lot and then arrest the person in a less dangerous situation, they continued to escalate it and then shot and murdered a person in the middle of a busy parking lot.
I don’t appreciate that in these situations no one has any regard for the bystanders that had nothing to do with the situation put at risk by murderous cops. These cops are greater danger to the public than a woman slowly moving her car forward.
That woman wasn’t a murderer, so let’s remember degrees of wrong, but she definitely wasn’t innocent.
“Innocent until proven guilty” is a fine principal, quickly forgotten by most, and a punchline for police.
It’s a strategy so commonplace that I suspect it’s part of police training:
If someone doesn’t step out of a car immediately on command, an officer stations him/herself in front of the car’s headlights, with gun drawn. Not in front of the car, but in front of a headlight. This allows the claim that, holy smokes, the cop could be run over if the car moves an inch, but it leaves the officer ample time and space to jump out of the way even if the driver floorboards the accelerator.
It’s bogus, but such a well-practiced maneuver that even people who recognize other police misconduct tend to believe it. Well, I guess they had to kill this particular perp — she was trying to run him over!"
Yeah and I’m thinking if she drives off, they have her license plate, right? And it’s someone accused of shoplifting not a mass shooter. Of course if it were a mass shooter they’d be holding back and assessing the situation to avoid being put into danger.
Do countries have travel advisories against visiting America? Because it looks like they should
I kind of had this. I’m in the US and my company has a foreign travel advisory. When I went to Norway this year it literally said I’m safer there than at home.
Canada has a few. Random shootings, and LGBTQ rights.
I am so glad I’m not in America. It literally looks like everybody is at risk to get shot all the time, everywhere.
Nah, that’s just a stereotype. I haven’t been shot in weeks.
It’s really not, but doom scrolling sure makes it feel that way. The human mind simply does not understand mass statistics as applied to individual risk.
While true (over four decades without seeing a gun used against a living target in the US here), the statistics are still pretty bad here per capita.
Someone in my school growing up killed their sibling (accidental shooting). A guy that did some work for my family couldn’t finish the job because he shot his wife’s boyfriend and went to jail. There was a spree shooter within half a mile of my home once. I’ve never seen anything personally, but have more “close calls” than people in a lot of countries wouldn’t believe.
Of course, I’ve known more fatalities from cars or cancer or heart attacks. But still our statistics on gun violence is not great, just not to the point of it being quite as ubiquitous as reported on the media.
Only when cops are around. Or when you set foot on a stranger’s property in a red state. Or if you piss someone off. Or…ok, you have a point.
At work someone was visiting from overseas. When asked if he wanted to do anything in particular, he asked if he could see our guns and maybe go shooting.
We explained that contrary to stereotypes, we didn’t all have guns, and in fact no one in the room had a gun.
Later while walking outside to lunch he asked what all the loud bangs were. It was the gun range across the street that we had all just kind of forgot about and ignored.
ACAB
usa does nothing but talk these days with no results citizens say they are upset and want change but noone is willing to put in that effort to get there does not help electing procop leaders like we have done always just look at the last two elections procop presidents won and not from the same party cops are the militarized force meant to keep us in our proper stations our country will never for example put funding into education enough and proper social investments enough where so many cops are not applicable
You have the Republicans that think Authoritarianism and Fascism are good
The Democrats think it’s bad, but think that shaming Republicans into behaving with their “Good Boy Points” is how you stand up to this.
Maybe I’m crazy, but if police have a gun pointed at me and tell me to get out of the car, I’m just going to get out of the xar, knowing they might shoot me if I don’t.
This can almost be considered suicide, knowing how bad police are with restraint.
Victim blaming
This can almost be considered suicide, knowing how bad police are with restraint.
How is this not victim blaming?
Lol no. I guess critical thinking isnt for everyone. Good luck with that
They might shoot you if you do…
I wonder what percent of the time cops fire their guns when drawn. As a person of color, I’m not sure I’d know what to do if a cop had a gun drawn on me. I’d probably be fearing for my life. Thinking, it’s either them or me.
Maybe I’m crazy, but if someone seems intent on killing me and I’m in a car, I’m not going to be inclined to get out of the car to make it easier for them to kill me.
Then you need to reevaluate your logic when that gun is pointed at your head by someone who can lawfully use it on you without much fear of punishment
someone who can lawfully use it on you without much fear of punishment
I think you might be missing the core issue here…
She’s black, or she was. She’s about as likely to be dead stepping out of the car as staying in it.
No she isn’t.
Ya, just follow the police orders and you won’t get shot.
