Im not american so i dont know all the freedom of speech laws work but its so fucking convenient that republicans can just decide what is and what isnt freedom of speech.
You can put anything in your window that isn’t fraudulent, straight pornography or otherwise illegal on its own.
“Kill x” would likely be illegal as it’s incitement to violence. “x need to die” would likely be legal.
Until recently the politicians didn’t really have abuse their power to do this. But since the Republicans have no spine whatsoever, they decided if it’d possible - who’s stopping them.
This is exactly the thing that should be stopped by the first sane person in the chain of rolling this out - but the Rep did a really good job infiltrating most of it.
While this article implies they want to restrict freedom of speech of the businesses, the actual threat is against the town who is distributing the signs. I still think it’s abuse of the state’s oversight powers, but it’s not the 1A violation the article makes it sound like.
FYI their law is federally illegal
deleted by creator
Wtf is even their argument for this?!
Edit: I obviously know their motivation, what I wanna know is their excuse for why this is supposedly justified.
They’re claiming it could cause boycotts and hurt the local economy. Which even if it were true, wouldn’t make much sense
So much for the “free market” 🙄🙄🙄
“Freedom of speech unless you’re saying something that I don’t like.”
To a Republican, a safe space for people who aren’t straight, white Christians is akin to a safe space for pedophiles/Satan/dark-skinned foreigners (all the same thing in their terms). The people they hate with everything in their being must not be allowed to peacefully exist. This is the very foundation of Republicanism/conservativism.
This comment needs to be put on top. I am not American but I did live there for a short time installing very big machinery, and I’m glad to be out of there.The Republicans who are doing this think a pride flag is equivalent to putting up a sign that says ‘kill kids’. Which you can’t do, free speech doesn’t cover overt threats to crime or violence.
That’s how far gone these people are, they have drank so much of the kool-aid they perceve every pride flag as an overt call to crime and violence. They perceve the existence of LGBTQ+ as an overt threat to crime or violence. At this point they’re too far gone to bring back. They’re so full of misinformation and vitriol that they only things they can feel anymore are fear, pride, and rage; it’s kind of of like Ingsoc in 1984 using those exact emotions to manipulate their people. It’s bad.
They want non straight (and non white) people dead. Thats it.
Don’t forget subjugating those filthy poors into slavery.
And non conservative
Obviously, but they usually try to obfuscate that with an excuse for why they’re trying to portray this as a good thing without being too overtly bigoted. I’m wondering what possible excuse they could have for this.
I’m wondering what possible excuse they could have for this
Something something “won’t someone think of the children?” Same excuse as always.
It’s almost certainly some nonsense about harbouring paedophiles… Because exercising your freedom to wear what you want means you diddle kids… Because reasons, you see.
As much as I hate that they’d want to do this, I’m kinda glad they are - the voter base wants more than just trans panic from their leaders - people have real problems they want solved, and this nonsense negatively affects both their electability and ability to deliver on this hateful, but very silly bullshit.
It’s got to be something to do with “political” slogans in retail spaces. But how that doesn’t straight up violate the first amendment I don’t know…
The lawmakers that wrote the businesses a letter are essentially extorting them. “We’ll fuck you with you like we did Disney but you’re too small to fight back so your town will die under the punitive regulatory smack down we will rain down on you”
Imagine being such a coward that who someone else loves scares the shit out of you.
Imagine the rich owners of this country using religion to group shame communities in order to produce more slaves
Not everything is about rich people. Exploitation exists, but ending it, does not end queerphobia. Yes, poor people are vulnerable to religious indoctrination, but so are ^middle and owning class people. Ending religious indoctrination also isn’t enough as we saw in several Eastern European countries with extensive lock-down on religious communities, where the countries continued queerphobic discrimination.
Eat the rich, but don’t expect that to end queerphobia.
Eating the rich won’t end queerphobia, but it would shut down a bunch of the money that’s being used to promote and normalize such phobia.
But I thought god owned the rainbow™️? Now the good Christians are disavowing it??
Some Christians are opposing Jesus teaching now.
they always have
But now they’re openly admitting they don’t give a fuck.
It’s been forever.
When the rainbow stopped being a reminder that god won’t genocide the world AGAIN and started being a reminder of love and inclusion, man that was too much for those great purveyors of xtian love.
Technically, it was a reminder that god won’t genocide the world again by flooding. No word on climate change or nuclear holocaust in the Bible.
Maybe that’s why it’s so traumatic
Every time they see a rainbow it’s a reminder that the god they worship is a petty, insecure, loser who will happily murder people, including children, just because his feelings were hurt
As a non-Anerican I read that Florida is being awful to a lot of people and I wonder, if people there notice a difference in rural or urban areas? Do people start to migrate to other states? Does it have an impact on the state and its economy? Or are these just impotent talking points designed to engage voters but with no effect on public life? Would love to hear from residents how to relativize all those horrible headlines…
People aren’t going to just upend their family for a short term political climate, even as bad as it is. DeSantis is heading down a path that he won’t win the next election. It’s easier to vote him out, then to move your family, and start a new life elsewhere. But, businesses will stop coming, and that is already happening. Businesses have stopped expansion plans. Florida is a huge place for conventions, and large meetings (corporate vacations), and those have been getting cancelled. Florida is losing Millions of dollars over this.
These are complicated questions with answers that lack solid data at the moment. People think the “woke” war is too much when it has govt telling corpos what they can and can’t say. So the GOP doesn’t care about free speech of their opponents unless it is their business opponents. Desantis is backing off the Disney fight.
It’s quite interesting from some who lives out of state. Florida seems to be a testing ground for all of these terrible policies, as if they aren’t afraid to pass a law no matter how shit it is. Maybe it’s because they know people are going to be moving out of Florida because of climate change so they might as well see what kinda shit they can get away with. But maybe it is all talking points.
Tourism to Florida is down across all fronts but the only thing you’ll hear from right-wing news is that Disney is “too woke” now so people aren’t visiting anymore. Of course that’s complete bullshit but that doesn’t matter to the talking heads.
I don’t understand why this is a headline, constitutionally, lawmakers can’t do jack fuckin shit to forbid that.
deleted by creator
The party of small government people
In this case they’re ending a government program I guess. These kind of headlines are not doing us any favors.
What program are they ending?
Follow the url on the sticker.
I did. Nowhere on there are they suggesting to remove a government program.
It’s the first bullet point in the article?
The towns mandate thing?
Yeah?
I feel like the GOP has pretty much abandoned the “small government” pretense altogether.
Can we just sell it back to Spain already???
This is really crazy. What’s going in the US? Aren’t LGBT groups protesting this?
Yes they are, but they’re being stalked by the Proud Boys who do things like show up at drag shows with baseball bats wrapped in barbed wire, and the cops don’t have a problem with that. It’s scary.
I don’t live in the US, but we are really fragmented - both geographically and politically. I guess some are exhausted, from the last ten years. I also guess that there in fact are queer groups making noise, but they’re likely not being heard enough. They do important work, but it’s hard to keep up, even without the violence and formal political landscape.
Why aren’t the Free Speechers protesting this?
Ah yes the party of free speech.
Then again, stuff like these stickers are only needed due to the type of idiotic assholes who would remove them, existing.
You can’t expect these people to be able to identify their own hypocrisy. Or to care if they do.
And small government…
And “pro business”
And red hats, and trucks with flags, and Punisher stickers, and blue lives matter decals, etc. etc.
deleted by creator
they’re so brave, they are willing to go to war with stickers
We’ve lost the wars on hunger, poverty, drugs, the middle-east and un-fucking the middle-east; why not go for stickers next? Goose egg omelettes for everyone!
No thank you. I had one once. It tasted fishy.
(Blechooooorkbarf, I did not need that pong memory)
After losing to Disney, it’s a safer bet!
from cartoons to colorful stickers, what’s next… postage stamps i guess… beer coasters at Buffalo Wild Wings maybe… whatever it is, i’m sure it’ll put up a good solid fight against these morons…
You mean “Buffalo Woke Wings” !
start using language like that and you’ll see a bunch of wings up in arms, brother… they’re not chicken…
they’re not chicken…
They’re Chixen™
“The assholes doth protest too much, methinks”
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Some central Florida lawmakers said they were considering “all legislative, legal and executive options available” to stop business owners in a small town from voluntarily displaying rainbow decals in their windows indicating that they are a “safe place” for LGBTQ+ people who feel threatened.
Four Republican lawmakers wrote a letter to officials in Mount Dora two weeks ago warning that the new, optional city-sponsored program could put the central Florida community outside Orlando “in the crosshairs of potentially detrimental and absolutely unnecessary economic harm.”
The lawmakers cited boycotts of Bud Light and Target, which followed the brands’ efforts to promote diversity and inclusion of the LGBTQ+ community.
Mount Dora’s city council approved the Safe Place Initiative last month.
Safe Place programs are visible throughout metro Orlando — as well as throughout the US — including ones sponsored by the Orlando Police Department, Orange County Sheriff’s Office and Osceola County Sheriff’s Office, all in central Florida.
The council’s decision to approve the program has coincided with an uptick in anti-LGBTQ+ incidents, including vandalism last month at two LGBTQ+ centers in Orlando.
The original article contains 339 words, the summary contains 179 words. Saved 47%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
Thanks bot
So, carrying guns os freedom of speech, but showing rainbows is not?
