• @[email protected]
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    I can’t put my finger on it, but I think there’s been an uptick also in posts purely in the form of increasing engagement. Safe ‘bets’ on getting responses (i.e. ++ to AskReddit), remarkably bland headlines, and just shit that reminds me of controversy of the “jumpstart” of automated bots they used in the earlier days.

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      A lot of suspicious “wholesome” posts on all, too. Seems like an astroterf to make the whole thing more digestible.

    • athos77
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      I’ve been half turn between blaming spez for that, trying to keep “engagement” numbers up so he can IPO and walk, vs blaming karma bots. And then I thought, “Why not both?”

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        Pretty sure one of the new (announced?) changes is that people will be able to get money from being popular enough. Encouraging “engagement” and karma farming over actually using the site as a human.

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          My understanding is that that’s an expansion of reddit’s earlier cryptocurrency effort, where users in like 3 subreddits could earn reddit moon tokens. Which is nice and all, but it’s about as reliable as any other cryptocurrency; it follows reddit’s usual policy of never giving out anything of real value and making other people do the work; and since they’re “awarding” it themselves, that means they have the main stash of moons in hand and they’re the ones who will “win big” if moons ever takes off.

  • @[email protected]
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    reddit is rage fuel. i’m so glad to be done with it. it seems everything written there is driven to make you upset or your day worse somehow.

    • @[email protected]
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      Hate to say it, but Feddy verse is no different.

      Nowhere is safe from the shrill endless war of shitty middle class Americans with nothing better to do than stink up every available channel with whatever you dumb shit politics they refuse to shut up about.

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        could be worse, they could be whatever dumbfuck you are from whatever dumbshit country you’re from with it’s dickfaced politics and shitbird opinions you post.

        the crap is always browner on the other shoe, fuckwit.

    • Freeman
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      NGL it totally depends. For general news/politics etc yeah.

      Some of the more niche subreddits…Its definately much less of that and some of the folks that have been around, arent using default subs. My “home page” looks severely different from the default.

  • @[email protected]
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    We find that our deeply engaged users are quick to challenge and downvote harmful or misleading content across the platform.

    Yeah, right.

  • @[email protected]
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    Dunno if this is related but for the first time in my life I’ve been receiving spam PMs on Reddit in the last few weeks… Very annoying

    • @[email protected]
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      As per your screenshot & the contained link, you reported this comment as racist?

      There them privileged white folk at it again, causing atrocities left and right. Love them that lack of culture.

      It sounds to me like you got banned for a good reason, because that was an abuse of the reporting tool.

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        Reporting a racist comment isn’t “abuse”.

        Even if you think racism is OK if it happens to be against a group you hate, it’s still not justifiable to ban someone for bringing it to the the attention of the administrators.

        That would achieve nothing except make people afraid to alert the mods.

        Thats a bad outcome no matter what.

      • @[email protected]
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        there is a difference between racism and prejudice. that comment is prejudiced but not racist. if white was replaced with black then it would be racist, bc there is an inherently power structure in play meant to create more economic and social opportunities for white people.

        I really wish more people understood this 😭

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        Hi @[email protected] , would you be so kind and elaborate about, how comment that is aimed on group of people based purely on their skin color is not racist and therefore reporting of it should be punished as it was? I say, it is misusing admin, or mod privileges for sake of spreading hatred against that specific group of people. All people should treat each other equally and nobody should banning people that fight racism by only option they have (had) on that platform, ergo reporting that.

      • @[email protected]
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        Imagine if you were to replace “white” with “black” or “asian” or “gay” in the text you quoted. Is it now a racist comment?

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          Sure is. But “White” is prejudice at worst, not racism. Racism includes the inherent power dynamics and systemic racism against minorities.

          • @[email protected]
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            So when it done in average African country with total population 5% of white(definetly a majority, swear on math meth textbook) is ok. Basically racism by non-white people is not a racism and there is nothing racist in this statement.

            I’m not sure if I should mark such absurdity as mere sarcasm.

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                  Racism is my favorate word in any spelling bee because of this. So simple its easy to remember. Especially in comparison to 10 letter words.

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              Yes, and racism is also a social hierarchy and systemic structure that utilizes tools of oppression to allow the in-group to have power and control over the out-group. Calling it prejudice alone is not acknowledging the full picture.

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                Oh my gosh, the closest thing to reasonable and you get a “consult your dictionary” comment.

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                  Yeah, this thread has been fascinating. It’s the most basic concept and people are wild’n out. My last comment at the bottom of this thing I think will summarize it well for anyone who reads through it all. I think the biggest concern is why people are so resistant to understanding the additional power/control and systemic shit within racism. I use “gravity” as an example, but when it comes to racism, these are people’s lives. And I’d hate to think how invalidating it would make someone feel to hear this “no” and “check the dictionary” shit in a conversation outside of the Internet.

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                  Lol mate, you’re being willfully obtuse. As you already know, there is knowledge beyond the confines of the dictionary, and the dictionary is merely attempting to summarize a very complex subject. If you’d like to broaden your perspective, you can turn to the research which is where I’m pulling my definition. If you’d like to understand why it’s so important to include those other things I mentioned in the definition, there’s plenty of reading opportunities to explain that.

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            Its about power, completely devoid of racial lines. It matters If you are given the privlage and act apon convincing yourself of lies. It also matters if you chase power at all costs.

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          Imagine that I have that kind of imagination even without your wise input, and that I do not change my opinion on " " being racist or not based on whatever you insert for the perceived skin color.

          Just the idea that you have that I would make a difference based on what someone inserts there makes it seem like in your mind it does matter who’s being addressed. Because in my world it doesn’t matter.

          Also, complaining about some “privileged” is not racism in and of itself, and with the addition of “committing atrocities”, the commenter on reddit outed themselves as a dumbfuck of a troll. And the previous poster clearly took the bait.

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          If it doesn’t involve oppression of a minority race by an in-power race, it’s not racism. Might be prejudism, not racism though. Racism involves a power imbalance that treats as inferior a minority.

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    the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit’s sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn’t know why.

    Wow this is the part that made me laugh the most. One of the first things I learned when as a mod was that you had to change the side bar in both old.reddit and the newer version since they both have different sidebars.

    I never even realized that the loss of whole mod teams could make this simple feature unknown by the new team.

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      Tons of mods don’t know, as all of the sidebars on old.reddit of many newer subs are blank

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        And that’s the problem right there.

        Reddit shat away the experienced people and gave the reigns to brown-nosers

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          Meh, that’s their problem. I’m sure the subreddit I used to mod has been shut down. It was dead anyway. CTCD, but few remember the stupid dog

    • @[email protected]
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      One of the mods on a sub I moderated got compromised, and the css of the sub got turned to cancer as part of a site wide attack.

      I got a few PMs bringing it to my anttention and fixed it/demodded the culprit. A day later, I remembered new Reddit and saw that it was changed in the attack as well. Not a single one of the 1M+ subs brought it to my attention. Either they weren’t using new Reddit, or they didn’t care.

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      Well yeah, when reddit just picks up whatever volunteers yell loudest, they don’t exactly get experienced mods. Those people all left reddit already.

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      There are a huge amount of redditors these days who have no idea old reddit ever existed and the first time they heard of 3rd party apps was when Reddit announced they were pricing them out of existence. Naturally, a lot of those people are going to become mods now and their ignorance about fundamental aspects of the site is glaring.

      This is only tangentially related but I started using reddit 13 years ago and the userbase has become increasingly unrecognizable in recent years. But what makes me truly feel like a dinosaur is seeing six month old accounts refer to reddit as “an app”… It’s bizarre to me that so many people’s exposure to reddit is limited to the worst way to possibly use the platform (the official app).

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        Everything has been an app first for years now. Not sure when it switched.

      • @[email protected]
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        I remember Reddit 13 years ago and it really was a different place. The whole calling it an app was something that annoyed me too lol.

        I also still remember my first reddit experience was BaconReader on the Windows 7 phone lmfao. I’m old.

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        what makes me truly feel like a dinosaur is seeing six month old accounts refer to reddit as “an app”

        At least you haven’t met people referring to the internet as “wifi” and didn’t have a 16 year old say they “needed at least 8GB of memory on a laptop to store music” (this was about 6 or so years ago). They thought that the RAM specs (aka memory) was the same thing as storage on phones. I saw his brain melting when I tried explaining it to him and was confused by my saying “phones have both memory and storage, the same as a laptop or desktop”.

    • athos77
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      You could block the community (I think - we can certainly do that on kbin, not sure about lemmy).

    • @[email protected]
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      Some people like to watch the news, some people like to stop and look at car accidents… some people like to watch reddit.

      This community has a low enough volume that when I notice it, it’s interesting.

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      Better to keep it contained. You’ll see the same article posted to less specific communities. Ideally it would all be here and you could just block the whole community.

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    Probably the best written article I’ve read on this subject. All concerning things in the article that Reddit absolutely doesn’t care about. Canning milk? What the fuck.

    Edit: I forgot that condensed milk is a thing…wondering if people can make it at home?

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          Yes you can. Take milk, simmer for an hour. Thats basically it

          Edit: step 3 would be NOT canning it. Keep it in the fridge like a normal person.

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            Take milk, simmer for an hour. Thats basically it

            I feel like you’re one of the people this article is talking about.

            Dromio05 showed me several posts he deemed questionable since Reddit took away his own mod badge. For example, this post shares a link to an article about “rebel canners,” which Dromio05 argues “gives a public platform to people who openly encourage methods and recipes that are known to be unsafe, like canning milk and open kettle canning.” The post is labeled unsafe, but Dromio05 would have removed the link to the article.

            • @[email protected]
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              You can make condensed milk at home. You absolutely shouldn’t can it at home. That’s a pretty big difference.

            • Captain Aggravated
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              Now there’s a difference between cooking and canning.

              You can safely make sweetened condensed milk in the home kitchen. What you can’t do is safely preserve it.

              Safe: I want to make a key lime pie tonight, I’ve got my limes, I’ve got a pie crust, I’ve got my eggs…no sweetened condensed milk. Grocery store is closed too. Okay, but I’ve got milk and sugar, so I’ll just mix some sugar and milk in a saucepan and simmer it down, then I’ll use that to make my pie tonight.

              Unsafe: I’m going to make a big ol’ batch of sweetened condensed milk, pour it into mason jars, boil 'em for ten minutes and put them in the cupboard so that it’s ready whenever I want a key lime pie.

              There’s LOTS of stuff that’s safe to cook and eat immediately that’s not safe to put in jars on the shelf.

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                Thanks, I think I misunderstood the above, I thought they were saying you could make canned at home.

                Never knew what was in key lime pie (it’s not much of a thing here), so that’s cool to know!

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                  It’s not all that hard to make; you may have to substitute ordinary limes for key limes as they can be difficult to find in most of the world but you should give it a try.

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        Ah yes, the 2018. That’s a good vintage. Aromas of pestilence and disease overwhelm the nose. An enticing menagerie of dumpster and botulism coats the palette with a subtle finish of garlic sharts lingering between sips. A pronounced effervescence from years of fermentation leaves a most pleasant mouthfeel. 95/100

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      I think you can make sweetened condensed milk at home but not safely preserve it. Have you noticed there’s no shelf stable normal milk? There’s no dairy products on the shelf on the Welch’s aisle. Even given industrial equipment, the best you can do is evaporated milk.

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          Anything but. They’ll be using that feedback to profile you, to better target ads at people like you. It’s like Facebook’s “I want to see less ads like this”. It’s to give an appearance of control. But really it implicitly means “show me more of what I didn’t reject”. Even if you’re there anonymously they’ll be associating any interaction you make with the ad with the subs you visit, the types of comment you make etc

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      it’s odd because I find lemmy more engaging, but perhaps its because of clickbait discussions that come up on the first page.

    • @[email protected]
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      Replace “reddit” with any free service. Welcome to the Internet.

      And before you “ackshually Lemmy” me, someone is paying for it. Perhaps even you, if you’ve donated to your home instance.

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        The Fediverse - being “free as in beer” rather than “free because you’re the product being sold” is different.

        It’s different because it costs somebody money. If you’re being an asshole on commercial social media, the company has financial incentives to keep you around. You’re bringing in more eyeballs.

        If you’re being an asshole on a Fediverse server, it costs an admin something. They have to deal with complaints. They have potential reputational loss or defederation for their server. The server that they pay for!

        Admins are paying for the server, so they must decide: is all this bullshit worth it? Is it something they really believe in and stand by with their real money and energy?

        I think that changes the calculus of assholes, bots, and Onlyfans on social media.

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      100% correct. It’s a powerful illusion because back in the day it was a real site with real people on it. It’s taking some folks a long time to pick up on this.

      There is almost no real content on there. If it’s not a bot / AI, it’s some shill with an agenda. It’s all about the ads and clicks.

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    I’ve noticed a huge increase of ragebait AITA posts every time I check the front page. They’re all pretty similar - disowning a child or deciding not to attend a wedding. And people fall for it every time. It’s kind of sad to see one of the smartest places on the internet turn into social media junk food.

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      Umm, reddit readers, most never even acknolaging the exodus situation publically, began to really bug me. Knowing this, your words now stronger than ever throw into question their nature because:

      people fall for it every time

      That likely means both audences and creators. AITA is almost completely hyperreal now. Few non fictional interactions exist anymore. Was it always like this?

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      I tried to post an AITA post on there about a traffic incident and Reddit locked my account down LOL. You expect rageposts on that sub anyway.

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    I also have the feeling that the comments started to suck a lot more. It’s starting to feel like comments on Youtube or Instagram, not like real people having a somewhat reasonable discussion about the topic.

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      Yep. I was casually talking about which country to move to for getting a master’s in a computer science-related field and I got lambasted just because I mentioned that I graduated from fine arts, despite that I’ve explicitly mentioned that I was going to move away from that field anyway and that the programs I plan to move to allow undergraduates from any background.

    • Flying Squid
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      The last thing I read before quitting Reddit for good was someone calling me a prick in a pinned post on my profile telling people to go to Lemmy. Needless to say, I’m not sorry I left.

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        Wow, ive been away for a bit. I heard AITA is gone sour, (rspash havn a good time i guess) what else?

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      Yep, interactions are definitely becoming more toxic. Indeed it starts to feel like youtube. I adopted Reddit at fisrt because of how friendly the community felt. That was 8-9 years ago and that time is clearly gone. Lemmy is nice, I hope it will keep growing.

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        I’ve noticed YouTube comments have actually become more positive (though still mostly useless). It seems YouTube has implemented some algorithm where it prioritizes “positive” sentiment comments above all. That’s why all the top comments on popular videos are generic platitudes.

        For example, go on any MrBeast video and read the top comments. They are all praising MrBeast for his videos and hard work. Finding any negative comment is difficult. On the other hand, if you go on a Reddit discussion about MrBeast, you’ll find plenty of people complaining about him.

        MrBeast is just an example, I’m sure we all have our own opinions about him but that’s not the point I’m trying to make. In fact, the same is true for any popular YouTube channel. Even political channels, where you’d expect to see heated debates in the comments, mostly showcase top comments agreeing with the video.

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        Anecdotal, but I’ve personally noticed a lot more open hostility in comment sections. I’m noticing that it’s starting to make me feel like I felt when I still had Instagram and FB: Lousy.

        So I’m now making a conscious effort to use it less and hopefully stop it all together, one day.

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          If it can be a front of the culture war, it will become one. Society has polarized, and so, in turn, has public discourse.

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          That feeling of dread when you notice you have a reply in your inbox