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I hope governments make this a trend, although I feel the medium still needs to evolve.
Wow, I never thought about this, but this is probably pretty good to have right? Might be a good way to find info about something if their sites are really confusing etc possibly
That’s a good point. But I think the fediverse needs less friction for this to benefit more of the general public.
Like any new technology, I think it will take a while for the experience to get smoothed out
Working link: https://social.overheid.nl/@beheerder/110684642686045200
"This instance has been technically up and running since Friday, July 7, but not yet officially in use. Please be patient
The instance will contain the accounts of government agencies and will not currently accommodate individual officials."
translated by google translate.
thank you for the working link, was starting to wonder whether something was broken on my side
Probably a poor decision to be creating accounts on government operated instances. Since they own the server, they’re in a position to:
- Siphon credentials and attempt reuse to gain access to distinct services
- Ban individual accounts
- Censor based on post content
I’m all for government support and adoption of open-source software so long as they’re not in the position to disrupt how it’s used by the public at large.
Edit (my perspective is relevant, but doesn’t apply in this case): My nerd impulses outran my willingness to read the link’s content. Seems it’s not for public registration.
Edit 2: Like my cornbread eating American ass can read Dutch anyway 🤣
From the post of the account linked here (in Dutch): it is going to be a place for official government communication, not for individual government employees (and I presume, by extension, public registration in general)
My mistake.
This is literally all instances… Nothing you do here should be considered private or be linked to your real information.
Agreed, but we have to trust the instances we keep accounts on. Trust is subjective, but I certainly wouldn’t trust a government ran instance for anything other than an outlet for information originating from the owning government.
If I run a private instance or know the maintainer of another, then I can have greater confidence in the security/privacy implementations.
I would trust most government instances more than most of the private instances. Would I trust them not to harvest all of that info? Absolutely not. Would I trust them to not masquerade as me? Way more. Governments have way more to lose by being caught.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time as a penetration tester and one of the first things we do once we recover credentials is check for validity against online accounts known to be good for a given user. We do that because it simulates attackers and government operators alike. It’s a guarantee that free credentials will be abused in one manner or another when they’re available to government entities.
The obvious control for this is to maintain a unique password for each account but that’s not always feasible for users due to myriad conditions.
I didn’t say they wouldn’t be abused. I said they wouldn’t be impersonated.
Would I trust them to not masquerade as me?..
Masquerading is literally the term used for this.
Exactly? I’m confused. Did you not understand my position?
This is going to be a private instance. No normal citizens can create an account.
It’s a response to Twitter shielding access to unregistered users. A lot of public services used Twitter to spread information.
And this is how all Governmental instances have to be, private. Mastodon is a great way to communicate for Government as they control it. They don’t rely on a company and can manage the servers.
My mistake.
This is likely exclusively for the government departments or employees, not personal use
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nice approach :)
Great news!
Italy will follow soon 🤥
And all other EU countries. Then crimew.gay will defederate them all later.
Damn a government that actually do something in terms of digitilization.
Cries in German …
It’s weird that you use Germany as an example when Germany has been on Mastodon since 2020 at https://social.bund.de!
TIL that I am a proud German citizen. Our government is leading the digital transition in Europe. 🇩🇪
Wait that is also government based?
Imagine a world where every government has its own instance.
“Breaking News: North Korea has defederated from the United States, as well as hundreds of other countries.”
i’ll take country defederation dramas over the shit we have now any day.
Nah they’re too petty for that. They’d make a huge show about how they’re going to block the US and everyone else. Then they’ll block.
Then they’ll quietly unblock everyone.Three months later they’ll do all over again.
This is just discord in a nutshell
Man I’m so glad to be in the discords I am in. I’ve never had any problems there. I keep hearing horror stories though.
“The Russian federation defederated Ukraine.”
You claim to be a federation, yet you’ve shown that you are actually a defederation.
More like it tried to forcibly merge the instances
Denies there is such a thing as a Ukrainian instance.
“There was never such an instance, it’s a bug created by Lenin”
“The Russian federation defederates itself.”
I tried to start a Mastodon account, but I got the error message “Validation failed: time zone not included in list”
Soo… you’re located on Mars?
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Why exactly?
Why?
afaik european comission’s instance isn’t usually defederated so I don’t see why this one would?
I want to see Canada next!
This is the way. Government, Businesses, Celebrities and News organizations should be hosting their own social media presence. They shouldn’t be beholden to corporate interests to regulate their communications. This also breaks the cycle of exclusive content that causes lock-in. Wins for everyone.
That’s actually hilarious because the coalition of ruling parties of the Netherlands was so unstable that it fell apart today.
Is there a local article about this? I’m very curious
Einde kabinet-Rutte IV - https://nos.nl/collectie/13942
Oh dang, our government has fallen and I first read about it on Lemmy. It’s official, this is my social medium now.