• @[email protected]
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    Have a bunch of them made alts on Lemmy .ml? I feel like this comment section ripe with bears that are on .ml. I suppose being able to make alts is one of the advantages of being decentralized.

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    Its a 6 sided bear, the peak of the polygonal phylogeny.

    Monomouse

    Duodugong

    Traye-aye

    Quadferret

    Pentacoyote

    Hexbear

    Heptaherpeton - this is the furthest we’ve discovered in the polygonal phylogeny but research indicates the likely existence of an octorca as well

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      Octoria are scientifically impossible, the grazing territory requirements alone for a sustainable breeding colony would be immense. Any reports of them in the wild are either misidentified pairs of quadferrets copulating, or hoaxes perpetuating the psuedoscience.

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        quadferrets copulating

        That’s where you’re messing up. Those are pentacoyotes, not quadferrets. The contact side between two polygonimals mating is actually obscured, so the actual number of sides in a copulation configuration is the sum of the sides of all involved polygonimals - 2. Therefore the octorca could not be two mating quadferrets, but could be two pentacoyotes, or a chain of duodugongs.

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          Youre quite right, rookie mistake by me. You would think a Polyphylogenonomist would know better.

          However, wouldnt it be more accurate to say that the actual number of sides in any given copulation configuration containing n polygonimals would be n*(sides per polygonimal)-(n-1)? Assuming we exclude tricopulations of hexbears where any given individual may be contacting two other individuals’ sides at the same time in a tessalation layout? I must admit im not certain though, my field is polyphylogenomics, not polyphylogenomatics. Im sure there are some edge cases Ive missed, pardon the pun.

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            My bad, I was thinking in terms of simple intraspecies pairing like they taught us as undergrads. Once you get into polypolys and tessellations the math is frankly beyond me. Well spotted though.

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    my problem with this thread; u can’t tell who is actually communist and authoritarian, and who is just authoritarian

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      Leninist/Stalinist/Maoist/“Left” Authoritarian Communism is just authoritarian nationalist state capitalism that uses classist rhetoric instead of (or as well as) racist rhetoric.

      And before people call me a tankie: Anything authoritarian is trash-tier shit.

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          Not every right wing extremist caused the holocaust, and besides, if you compare all right wing extremists with the nazis at their peak power, you could also consider yourself a stalinist for downplaying his actions by simplifying history as some people I disagree with

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            If you compare right wingers with little power to left wingers with little power you get mass shooters vs mutual aid enthusiasts.

            If you compare right wingers with a lot of power to left wingers with a lot of power, the fascists have a spectacular kill count and the left wingers are less bad than the bourgeois democracy baseline.

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      They don’t give a shit about worker enfranchisement - they’re all right wing fascists, it’s just that some of them are red-coded.

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      The difference is whether you get sent to a concentration camp or a gulag.

      Oh, I guess they are pretty similar…

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        Uh, depending on the concentration camp, not really.

        I don’t want to defend gulags but they didn’t have poison shower rooms or child corpse disposal staff.

        Working your slaves to death sometimes, sure, but you mostly came out the gulag alive.

        Broken, but alive. Historians estimate that of about 20 million people sent to the gulags about 1.5 million died in them.

        Which is a horrific example of compliance through terror but not quite the same thing as an extermination program.

        Don’t minimize the Holocaust on your way to agree with everyone else that tankies are delusional assholes.

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          Just for information the death count of gulags is largely unknown. Russia itself says its 1 million but pretty much all other sources say its too low to be even believable. There are credible sources for 1.5 to 8 million deaths (also non-credible sources that go much higher). Unfortunately unlike the nazies, soviets did not really have record keeping at all so all sources are estimates based to prisoner and guard writings. Another factor that makes estimates hard is the practice of when a prisoner was near death they would be shipped home, a lot of those never made it home but don’t count as killed by a gulag.

          There was also mass deportations from satellite states that weren’t sent to gulags presumably but that’s a different thing.

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          I don’t want to defend gulags but they didn’t have poison shower rooms or child corpse disposal staff.

          Neither did concentration camps:

          "Interned persons may be held in prisons or in facilities known as internment camps (also known as concentration camps). The term concentration camp originates from the Spanish–Cuban Ten Years’ War when Spanish forces detained Cuban civilians in camps in order to more easily combat guerrilla forces. Over the following decades the British during the Second Boer War and the Americans during the Philippine–American War also used concentration camps.

          The term “concentration camp” and “internment camp” are used to refer to a variety of systems that greatly differ in their severity, mortality rate, and architecture; their defining characteristic is that inmates are held outside the rule of law. Extermination camps or death camps, whose primary purpose is killing, are also imprecisely referred to as “concentration camps”."

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment

          Don’t minimize the Holocaust on your way to agree with everyone else that tankies are delusional assholes.

          The singularity of the Holocaust lies in the extermination camps, where millions of people were murdered with industrial efficiency:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

          Saying that concentration camps exist(ed) in other countries is not Holocaust relativism.

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              No, I don’t know which ones “he” meant, because nobody mentioned Nazis, and apparently you still haven’t understood the difference between concentration and death camps, and assuming everyone here is male is also kind of yuck you know.

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                Sure bro. You’re making an honest argument in a comment chain that has used the phrase “authoritarian nationalist state capitalism.”

                Fuck all the way off, this isn’t Facebook, people know what you’re doing.

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                  This comment chain doesn’t have the words “authoritarian nationalist state capitalism.” in it, and you don’t know shit about anything, go back to facebook.

                  I’m also not your fucking “bro”, asshole, get lost.

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            Sure, but the commenter had a very specific set in mind and it’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

  • @[email protected]
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    I think it may be referring to the people who blame all social ills on “corporate greed” and think that belong leftist is exclusively being anti-capitalist. I think this may go along with some pro-Putin/pro-Xi viewpoints, possibly because they believe that “the west” is bad and capitalist, Andy anyone who opposes it is anti-capitalist and good.

    I’m glad I know who these people are, so I can be more careful of them. Both here and on Reddit it felt like I was trapped in a bubble with these guys.

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      I have to ask… Is DMV.social related to the actual DMV?

    • @[email protected]
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      Tankies are politically incomprehensible, because they claim to be queer-friendly communists, but support insanely queer-phobic bourgeois dictators like Xi and Putin.

      They are vulnerable to the same online radicalization as alt-right bubbles. They say things that get increasingly insane, because it gets them more and more internet points and attention, until they start believing their own outrageous hyperbole.

      For example, I have one tankie currently trying to unironically argue with me that the UK is a vassal state to the US Empire. Like we’re living in Star wars and he’s the rebel alliance that is bringing down with evil empire with lemmy shitposting.

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    Ever wanted to be talked down to by a 14 year old alt-right sociopath who pretends to support lgbt so they can stealthily insult liberals and blame western whites for how China is?

    Edit; downvote more, at the end of the day you’re still a hexbear 🤢

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      Like mainland 9gag with a veil of solidarity.

      For the majority who don’t know, 9gag is a Hong Kong based meme recycling organization run by people who are equally intolerant of lactose and melanin.

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      These accusations specifically are always so wild from you libs. Blue anon through and through.

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            I’m not equating anything here, Donald j Trump is a communist.

            Don’t like it? Shouldn’t have drank all that kool-aid. That’s right, you’re propagandized for disagreeing with me!!1

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          According to some weird red-brown alliance “patriotic socialists,” “maga communists,” or whatever they’re calling themselves now (The first one was probably way too on the nose). We’re not them though. We even immediately drove one of the main figures behind that cryptofash bullshit out, and now they’re just a semi-regular feature in the dunk tank.

          /Edit - May be confusing the drumming out with another far less edgy community and/or the r/CTH days. Folks like that are prolific about trying to wedge their way in. Latter point there still stands though.

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          We’ve never “pretended to support lgbt”, why would we? What would be the point of a load of alt right channers roleplaying as queer communists for years on an incredibly niche social media in the hope that eventually redditors would come to the site? And even supposing we did, and we were all just alt right types, if we’d spent years doing reading groups of queer theory together and kicking out transphobes and creating the most queer friendly space on lemmy just as an incredibly long extended bit then would the supposed communists we’re impersonating even take issue with that?

          Like just use some critical thinking, at this point almost half of the sites users are trans and most of the rest are queer, most new users cite our radical opposition to queerphobia as their reason for joining, what evidence is there that we lie about being queer friendly? Like just check out [email protected] or [email protected] or [email protected] and tell me in good faith that all these people have been lying for years about being queer

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          They’ve decided a radically inclusive, three-year-old community of lefties who were here well before there was any serious activity on Lemmy are secret fascists who only pretend to be heavily LGBT for laughs. How are you supposed to respond to that? It’s hugely insulting and absurd on its face.

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        Who is misgendering anyone in the comment you replied to? They clearly edited their comment at some point, as they posted 29 minutes ago while you replied six hours ago, but what is up right now has no gendered terms at all. Did they remove that language?

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          You know how you can misgender trans people by claiming that they’re faking being trans right? That’s what it comes down to when they claim we aren’t supportive of lgbt people/faking being lgbt.

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            I wasn’t aware that would be misgendering them however the comment as posted states faking supporting LGBT people which is different than what you are claiming here. I am asking if they altered the comment in any way that would make your claims logical or did you just misread them?

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          Literally claiming trans people aren’t actually trans and are just faking it as part of some conspiracy is misgendering.

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                  Weve all spent three years faking being gay and trans for your amusement, yeah. We even went as far as to code in mandatory pronouns next to display names to own the libs. /s

                  Imagine being so conspiracy brained that you say such incredibly insulting nonsense.

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                Okay, and I’m still confused on where “faking LGBT support” implies anti-trans? You’re literally seeing things that aren’t there.

                🤡

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        I don’t believe you.

        Donald Trump is a communist and he said you’re wrong. Sorry.

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          Do you want to see their genitals or what? This happened way before the exodus and federation.

          I’m a trans hexbear user, are you going to accuse me of faking?

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            No, but trump is a communist and I have loads of proof.

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                Trump is so broke he can’t pay his lawyers and is selling coffee cups with his mugshot on them but, okay? Hopefully he’s in prison one day for all he’s done.

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                  Trump is so broke he can’t pay his lawyers and is selling coffee cups with his mugshot on them but, okay?

                  This is standard rich asshole stuff. The point is being a billionaire is antithetical to being a communist.

                  Hopefully he’s in prison one day for all he’s done.

                  Hopefully he’ll be executed.

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                Wow, someone clearly is totally propagandized, the evidence is right there and you simply ignore it. Wow, lib moment 😮‍💨

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            We’re just interested to see if there are statistics around that support your claim that

            20 percent of hexbears user base is trans.

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      Gods yes, it’s all I’ve ever wanted. Do they do birthdays?

      • YeetPics
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        No, celebrations of any kind are western propaganda. Your question has been audited and was found to have negative implications towards the state. Shock troops have been dispatched to your most recent location, have a great day, comrade.

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      holy fuck I laughed out loud at this outside by myself at ten to 1am … I didnt know what hexbear was, soooo, I reported a post for saying that anyone who ever supports a democratic candidate in america needs to be hit by a truck, and that violence needs to befall them, so the mod I reported it to posted my username and announced I had reported it in a comment to that post. people then piled on saying how I was a hypocrite and deserved violence brought against me, because violence has been done by cops agains homeless and trans people. also, that all I care about is getting brunch

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    snarky know-it-alls that believe that they possess the most advanced political analysis derived almost exclusively from parroting reddit comments which have slowly turned their brains into velveeta

    but anyway, enough about Lemmitors.

    Hexbears are actually a nice bunch if you read through the comments on the current megathread. They just have very little tolerance for self-satisfied libs that congratulate themselves for thumping the Washington consensus-approved ideologies that most of hexbear graduated from years ago. Even I find it difficult to read lemmy comments because they’re legitimately what I would’ve written as a teenage redditor in the late 2000s.

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    A social network that was formed as a fork of lemmy, before lemmy had really entered the fediverse (tho they were planning to). Both Lemmy and Hexbear had communists among their founders, but the Hexbear devs found it more… Central to their objectives. When Lemmy federated, Hexbear didn’t. It planned to initially, but ended up being pretty satisfied of being a small, yet centralized social network, basically a communist Reddit. But the idea of joining the Fediverse appeared tempting once again with the boom that happened on Mastodon when the muskrat ate the bird, and to a greater extent when Reddit changed their API policy and lost a lot of the user’s trust, causing many redditors to move to Lemmy.

    Hexbear devs then worked to essentially make it a Lemmy instance, but there were always disagreements about who to federate with. They first federated with Lemmygrad and Lemmy .ml. Lemmy .world quickly blocked them. They temporarily federated with sh .itjust .works, but this wasn’t well received on either side, so this was soon undone.

    Ideology wise, pretty much everyone on Hexbear is some kind of communist. However, altho the “tankie”, pro-russia type is often seen, it’s not that homogeneous (there are even anarchist channels over there), arguably less than lemmygrad.

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    Edge lords who couldn’t handle someone telling them they were wrong, so they had big sook and defedederated after a day.

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    A large part of it is a fanbase of Chapo Trap House which has a particular brand of humor that is rampant with esoteric inside jokes that are vulgar as a point, let alone to the extreme.

    That humor, especially without that frame of reference, usually offends your average internet denizen.

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    It’s a bunch of woke lefties that want to tax billionaires and shove their gay agenda down my throat. They hate honest hard working landlords and CEOS and shill for the lazy poors.

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    Look I’m trans but I don’t trust any online communities for this unless it’s informative since they usually aren’t too welcoming of masculine presenting or straight trans people