What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?

— Only the monstrous anger of the guns.

Only the stuttering rifles’ rapid rattle

Can patter out their hasty orisons…

– Wilfred Owen

  • @[email protected]
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    … says the guy that belongs to a party that fears the freedom of love, and…. books.

    The world has not ever known a cowardice of the level that conservatism has currently reached.

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      Never been on an aircraft carrier, but I wrote many a snarky poem while in the desert.

      Does this guy just think that every Soldier, Sailor, Airman, and Marine operates in battlefield mode 100% of the time?!

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        I have a lot friends and family who served. I think its hilarious the way everyone but people who have been in service hold up the image pushed by recruitment efforts and Call of Duty and the like.

        From everything I’ve been able to tell it’s one of those “it’s boring and sucks until its very very very NOT boring and then it can REALLY suck.”

        And I hope that doesn’t come across as dismissive or something. It’s meant to be the opposite. It seems absolutely more brutal to me and probably why it’s not the part that makes the movies. Sit around in difficult conditions until some horrible fucking shit breaks the monotony… that sounds insane.

        I have a friend whos a firefighter. Usually they’re doing cooking, cleaning the truck, whatever… until they’re watching a kid fucking die or something.

        Fucking write poems, do some coloring books, fucking whatever gets your through it lmfao.

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          It’s definitely not the same as combat situations, but in my experience in emergency medicine, you really do learn to love boring. I’d much rather sit around doing crossword puzzles, playing solitaire, and meticulously restocking the department than have 3 back-to-back codes in a pediatric level 1 ER.

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          82 years ago

          If you have a good unit then most of the military experience is hanging out with your friends all the time.

          Except for the 5am PT every morning, and at 7am when you’ve got to get your truck ready at the motor pool, or 8am when you’ve got special duty to set up the range, or 9am when there’s a 2 hour briefing about keeping your hands to yourself and having a designated driver.

          Lunch at 11am is usually alright, except the base you’re at has the worst DFAC you’ve ever seen.

          That range you helped set up? It’s at 12am, and it’s fun to blast away at targets thinking about how much weapon cleaning you’re going to do tonight.

          There’s a lot of leftover ammo, but you only had to shoot 2 magazines, so your rifle isn’t going to be that hard to clean. (Any vets know what’s coming next?)

          First Sergeant says we can’t waste ammo, if we don’t use the 10,000 rounds they give us, they will only give us 5 rounds next time.

          So the next several hours is spent in the sun, loading more rounds to mindless blast in the general direction of targets on the range.

          7pm rolls around, it’s quitting time. Just kidding, night land nav, time to stumble around around in the dark with shitty NVGs and try to find all the points scattered throughout 2 miles, using nothing but a compass and a map.

          Except nobody ever gets all the points, so everyone gets together at the end to share the points they found.

          10pm, now it’s quitting time, except wait, some moron has lost their night vision goggles, so instead of going back to the barracks, everyone is going to spend the night on the land nav course until it’s found. In the morning it’s found right next to one of the vehicle tires.

          Those are the general events of a somewhat easy day in a combat unit. A day without overnight watch, hours of formations and drill ceremony, 30km ruck marches, endless briefings, flipping landscaping rocks because first sergeant doesn’t like the side you flipped everything to last month, etc etc etc.

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    362 years ago

    Ernest Hemingway would out drink, out spit, poetry slam this guy to death with his bare hands.

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      Hemmingway didn’t do any of the things he said he did- or rather, paid people to take him there and show him things. He certainly wasn’t a skilled hunter, and he’ll was a merely adequate writer.

      Which is why all the good bits were shadow written

      Which, I can’t really disagree with your statement. Tuberville is that useless, after all.

      • SpaceBar
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        Did Hemmingway write 100% accurate biographical accounts of his experiences? No. He was a fiction writer who self promoted and built a brand.

        To each is own. I’m not a huge fan, but he’s hardly the first writer to build his own ethos.

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        I’ve seen and heard nothing about Hemingway having a shadow writer? He was certainly a drunk and not entirely a good person, even for his time.

        • FuglyDuck
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          Wait until you find out who shakespear’s shadow writer was.

          It’s actually historically very common. Most of the “classics” had them.

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            Where do u get this nonsense ? There’s no hard evidence for ghost writer theory and not much evidence at all.

            Scholars have said such a theory is highly improbable

        • Flying SquidOP
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          Never heard that about Hemingway, but I have heard that about Tennessee Williams. Maybe they’re confusing the two?

    • YeetPics
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      True, I wrote a limerick when I was a kid and now I’m begging for sonnets on skid row.

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        Here’s a free one to keep the shakes away:

        How Do I Love Thee? By Elizabeth Barrett Browning

        How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
        I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
        My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
        For the ends of being and ideal grace.
        I love thee to the level of every day’s
        Most quiet need, by sun and candlelight.
        I love thee freely, as men strive for right;
        I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
        I love with a passion put to use
        In my old griefs, and with my childhood’s faith.
        I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
        With my lost saints, I love thee with the breath,
        Smiles, tears, of all my life! and, if God choose,
        I shall but love thee better after death.

        Edit: Kind internet stranger pointed out to fix the formatting issue,

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          This is Markdown, like Reddit. There is an easy fix, and you don’t need bullets (though that did the job in a pinch, good thinking). Check it out:

          If you put two spaces after every line before the line break, they will display as separate lines.
          Without the spaces, the line breaks don’t matter and you end up with a big paragraph.
          I usually do four spaces just because, but two spaces should do the job.
          Try it.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          You can’t apologize in advance after you do the thing you’re apologizing for. That’s just apologizing.

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        102 years ago

        Keyes was not a socialist as he owned slaves throughout his life. Im fairly positive that slave owning does align with any form of socialism.

          • @[email protected]
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            He owned eight humans when he died. He liberated slaves to oversee other slaves. Calling him a socialist is like calling Marx a neoconservative.

            • Flying SquidOP
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              I didn’t say he was a socialist, I said his relationship with slavery was complicated. Which it was, as you can see if you just read that part of the Wikipedia entry.

                • Flying SquidOP
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                  Ok, and the comment I replied to said a thing about a man whose name you got wrong which is not as black-and-white as you make it out to be. You don’t get to be free from criticism yourself, sorry.

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        Tuberville seems like he gets offended when the NFL wears pink to support breast cancer awareness.

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      He is not even from Alabama and doesn’t live there nor own any property there. He lives in Florida.

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        Just like Josh Hawley who doesn’t even live in Missouri, Dr. Oz who didn’t even live in Pennsylvania, Herschel Walker didn’t live in Georgia, and Marge Traitor Green who doesn’t live in the district she “represents”.

        Boy, republicans sure do love their carpetbaggers.

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      Pretty sure it sprang into existence from the frothing sea foam when America tm cut off England’s balls and threw them into the Boston harber, a la Birth of Venus.

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      Oh I know this one! Francis Scott Key was the badass sitting in jail watching the battle from his cell window and wrote it as the world exploded around him.

      (Thank you Jimmy Williams of the 4th grade who got me into detention - teacher made me write an essay on Francis Scott Key. Jimmy thought it was funny, little did he know of the 2 Lemmy points I would eventually get for my endeavors 30 years later - oh ho ho - who is laughing now, Jimmy!?!)

      Pretty sure those old timer GOPers are just afraid of people who read and understand art because they are barely literate and slightly insane from lead poisoning. That 5G and it’s Wuhan Virus… (angrily shakes arthritic fist)… will get you every time.

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        You’ve got 5 whole Lemmy bucks from where I’m standing! Don’t spend them all in one place.

        That Jimmy Williams sounds like a good guy. Maybe he didn’t do things on purpose, but maybe he did. Sadly teachers aren’t usually allowed to teach history and instead have to teach “history.” He may have seen an opportunity to get you to see the real thing.

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    132 years ago

    Imagine being a politician and going out and saying anything other than “our military is the greatest in the world.” Political discourse on the right is completely off the rails.

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      Where’s the propaganda from Dems on how this guy DOESN’T STAND FOR THE TROOPS? I would think it real easy now.

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        Where’s the propaganda from Dems on how this guy DOESN’T STAND FOR THE TROOPS? I would think it real easy now.

        I’d also think it would not be propaganda.

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          Propaganda is about intent, not whether its true. It would still be propaganda if the intent is promoting a political point of view.

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    “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools” –Thucydides Sir William Francis Butler

    Tommy should be happy they’re writing poetry on aircraft carriers.

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    doing poems”? Who does a poem? Don’t you write a poem?

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      92 years ago

      In the article, his quote mentions reading them over the boat PA systems. Probably just jealous of their literacy.

      Something something ship not a boat. Come at me, squid-bros.

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          Kinda wish I’d been on a ship just for the experience of it but the closest I got was a grudging admission about being under the “Department of the Navy” umbrella and a dangling carrot of a MEU if I’d been willing to reenlist. Sorta regret not doing it but I’d had my fill of the routine daily bullshit and was ready to move on. All the Navy guys I knew with the first name “Doc” were cool as hell though, the rest were probably at least all right.

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            I got about a week’s worth of boat time. Definitely not for me glad I just joined a department of the navy too.

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    Tommy Tuberville is the kind of cunt that would imply that strong people can’t feel. Give me the poetic military members that will contemplate their actions, please.

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      When people say “what’s there not to like about the South?” I point to the fact that this dude got elected and he’s a walking cte.

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      Two of Britain’s most highly-regarded poets, Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen, who I quoted above, both wrote their best poetry while serving in the trenches of WWI. Owen because he died going over the top.