you get what you accept
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Accept this downvote then, basement dweller.
Did you miss the mass protests in Iran?
What do you mean by this? I am not sure I follow.
I’m very surprised at you getting mass downvoted.
Their current plight goes all the way back to the 70s, where they literally got everything they wanted.
The Shah deposed, check. Carter humiliated and out of office, check. Religious oligarchy / theocracy / Islamic fundamentalism and Khomeini in power, check. Reagan elected, check. The US embarrassed and shamed, check.
Nothing good it seems come out of getting involved in the affairs of the Middle East.
Iran should just deport all their engineers, philosophers, critical thinkers, social unacceptable members to other countries that would be glad to receive a brain boost. That way, Iran could just happily fucking rot in its own juices.
Nah, the religious fanatics should all just move to a mountain top monastery like they did in ancient times. They’d be much happier there.
I’d accept that too! And stop being allowed to make social policy and laws!
Who is going to take them? Every country puts up walls to keep refugees out.
People with advanced education have a much easier time immigrating.
Money
Well one of them managed to escape
They already are!
All religion is fucking useless Jai sree ram jai sree ram 😼🚶 Anyone knows about Dinkoism ? Its a parody religion from kerala
That’s actually really interesting. I wonder if any religious folks are able to deconstruct their own beliefs after seeing this movement.
I hate all religion but damn, Islam is sooooo fucking archaic. Literal Stone Age bullshit. Ahhh the “religion of peace.”
Mate. The Christian religion spawns YE creationists. Thoughts and prayers for the victims of avoidable massacres. Life sentences of servitude for mothers of rape babies. Life sentences of fear for gay people.
All religion is twisted. Why pick on one or another? They all need to go.This isn’t specific to Islam. This is what theocracy looks like. Very few religions are fit doctrines on which to run a country. There are plenty of American Christians who would have me killed for who I am.
The US was ~90% Christian until recently. Same with our elected officials, bad things happen from time to time and stupid laws, but the rate of attrocious incidents like this are far less. You could argue it’s cultural, not based in religious text, but tell that to apostates that fear for their lives.
Throw some bombs at Mississippi, kill the bulk of their leadership, and they’ll be hanging queers in a week. I have been attacked in public by an American Christian extremist; I sometimes get to fear for my life right here in the Midwest. Put these people in a state of desperation, and it’ll be a swampy theocracy in no time. America is ~250 years into running a country that was founded on not having a state religion. That’s a far cry from a theocracy founded under violent foreign interference less than a century ago, and we still have dangerous religious extremists. It’s not a matter of culture. It’s a matter of circumstance.
Mississippi, Alabama, and Missouri are 100% archaic Christian shithole countries that are just propped up by virtue of being US states. The religious stranglehold is just as real.
To be honest I’ve avoid that region pretty much entirely because that’s the impression I have as well.
The descriptions I hear about conservatism down there are wild.
I think Christianity can be used as the banner for an archaic regime just as easily as Islam. It hasn’t mostly because Christian majority countries happen to have moved on to science, industry and commerce. Middle East countries have been so actively fucked with by the west that they really can’t climb that ladder, except the ones that have some stability thanks to having a monarch defended by the west. Iran’s holy revolution was a response to a US puppet ruler. Afghanistan has been kept in the dark ages by constant war fueled by western states. Yemen has been brutalized by the Saudis without repercussion because the West protect the Saudis.
So who are really the barbarians in this picture? The west enjoy all the trappings of a modern society but the games they play with other regions in the world are beyond barbaric: the barbarism is just more obscured and geographically removed.
OK… Can we free Assange or Snowden?
There’s no ‘freeing’ Snowden. He dumped US intel, got scared, and decided to move to Russia of all places, where he couldn’t be charged or extradited. He has now lived there for a significant portion of his life. For the entire war against Ukraine. If he were half as critical of Russian or Chinese spying as he is American, I might see things differently. Point is, he made his own choices and moves a long time ago. His allegiances are clearly elsewhere. Maybe he was dumb enough to believe the Russians and Chinese respect privacy more than Americans.
I’d rather see Navalny freed.
He didn’t decide to move to Russia. The US revoked his passport during his layover while he was en route to Ecuador.
I don’t think you can say he didn’t make the decision to move to Russia at some point. You don’t get there accidentally, and his decisions most certainly brought him there. And that’s where he lives and has lived for many years now. I think you can see the hypocrisy of the situation. If he did what he did in America in Russia, he’d be dead. If he were FSB and leaked internal Russian intelligence, they would kill him. If government spying is his concern, he moved to the worst place, and practices very selective criticism. That’s primarily what I take issue with.
TIL that having your passport revoked while you are traveling is the same thing as intentionally moving somewhere
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TIL you can also practice selective reading. Why do you think he hasn’t criticized the Russian government?
If anyone is interested, here’s what really happened:
“On June 21, 2013, the United States Department of Justice unsealed charges against Snowden of two counts of violating the Espionage Act of 1917 and theft of government property, following which the Department of State revoked his passport. Two days later, he flew into Moscow’s Sheremetyevo International Airport, where Russian authorities observed the canceled passport, and he was restricted to the airport terminal for over one month. Russia later granted Snowden the right of asylum with an initial visa for residence for one year, which was subsequently repeatedly extended. In October 2020, he was granted permanent residency in Russia. In September 2022, Snowden was granted Russian citizenship by President Vladimir Putin, and on December 2, 2022 he swore the oath of allegiance.”
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Lmao thanks for writing the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.
You’re welcome, asshole.
Hooray, a Persian Gulf country sentenced someone to a punishment other than death for a harmless crime!
I thought 74 Lashes were clearly lethal?
AFAIK there is nothing humane about such a sentence, on the contrary, it can mean slow and painful death.
I just tried to find this out, in most muslim countries, the too many lashes are spread out over several times, to avoid death. A limit is for example 50 lashes per time in Saudi Arabia.
Obligatory I don’t agree with the mess going on in Iran.
With that out of the way, there’s a decent amount of restrictions on the lashing process to make the sentence painful but not lethal or permanently disabling. Lashing someone with all your strength and ripping the flesh off their back pre-Civil War America style isn’t a thing., because ripping the flesh off people’s backs tends to kill them.
Fucking barbarians.
Absolutely, although I don’t think barbarians were quite that bad.
Wasn’t barbarian just Roman slang for non Romans?
I think Barbarian comes from much later when the Barbary Pirates were kidnapping people and razing villages and towns to the ground and forcing people into slavery. I think “Goths” and “Vandals” would be more appropriate, but I could be wildly mistaken
Yes, but more specifically the non romans from the north.
Queue the blood eagle!
Religion of peace
This is wrong by an islamic standpoint. Go to reddit with this bs… Life isnt that simple you 🤡
“This is wrong by an islamic standpoint” why don’t you go and say that in Iran, Brunei, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan (or practically any country with an islamic majority), your point of view will surely be much appreciated. Oh and do you remember when a bomb was thrown at the headquarters of a French magazine, killing 12 people, because they drew mohamed? Good times…
Does not change anything about what i said. Religion has nothing to do with any of this, these countries would still be shitholes even if it never existed, but sure keep telling yourself what you want, makes it easier
“Religion has nothing to do with any of this” fck… what does it have to do with then? what practical reason do you have to force people to follow rules from an old book full of bullshit?
İran has been muslim for quite some time, was it always as it is right now? Do you seriously think that islam is the only factor here? Think a little bit for yourself
Hijab is not mandatory in Pakistan, you obviously have no clue what you’re talking about
(or practically any country with an islamic majority),
Oh you mean like Indonesia, Malaysia and all of North Africa? You’re free to be an ignorant Islamophobe, but please do it after using Google for five seconds.
so now the exception is the majority? And Islamophobe it was created to deflect any criticism of islam, I say it’s wrong to throw a bomb and kill 12 because someone drew a picture of mohamed and I’m islamophobic, if I say it’s wrong to give 74 lashes because someone doesn’t agree with your religion and I’m islamophobic, if I say it’s barbaric to behead someone because they spoke against islam and I’m islamophobic, “everything I don’t like is is islamophobia”. Come up with better arguments instead of using buzzwords.
And I’m against all religions, especially Abrahamic ones, don’t think Islam is special just because I’m criticizing it here.
And Islamophobe it was created to deflect any criticism of islam,
No, it was created because people like you hate Muslims, and we needed a term for that. Or are you somehow denying that Muslims experience discrimination based on their religion (if only we had a term for that, maybe something starting with Islam and ending with phobia)?
Either way I don’t intend to pursue this conversation any further, but if your answer to my question is yes (and even if it’s no, really), you need to interact more with the outside world.
“Either way I don’t intend to pursue this conversation any further” then there’s nothing more to be said, why answer if you don’t want to discuss it? do you want attention?
This is wrong by an islamic standpoint.
The part about it being the religion of peace? Yeah we noticed.
You definitely convinced me.
I dont need to convince you, believe what you want. Im just telling you that youre wrong
A country of barbarians.
every religious-led country is a country of barbarians.
it is the human collective absolving themselves of responsibility in liue of some greater power
religion is a transmissible poison that must be removed, like cigarettes
so much fuss over a hat,please muslims, make it make sense. why is it a female’s job to worry about your stupid ass erections?
Dont say muslims, i dont give a shit what you think this is OBVIOUSLY not what the majority of muslims want or support. This isnt even right in the most literal islamic pov
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Would you kindly explain how the no true Scotsman fallacy applies here?
The people doing this are muslims doing it in the name of Islam. If you’re only defence is that they’re not “real” muslims then youre what the fallacy is talking about.
I’m not saying they’re not real Muslims, but that doesn’t mean all Muslims, or Islam as a whole, is like that. Actions of the minority don’t define the majority, or else they’d be just that: A majority.
It is explained for 5 yearolds in the article.
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Again no, there is no such rule. You can not enforce Islam and you can not punish someone for not following it with lashes, such things are forbidden.
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Just because they claim that doesnt make it actually 100% islamic dumbass tf
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How tf do you even get a thought like ? It really impresses me You willingly misinterpret what im saying
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The silence of the mayority is complicit approval
And Mohamed can take his shit book and push it right up his pedophile ass
Yeah nah over a billion people dont have to speak up because of actions like this in random ass countries, especially a shia country, that mist wouldn’t even consider muslim…
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Not to detract from a very important issue, but why does this image look like it was AI-generated?
Wait what??? But my college buddy who fell down the ruzzian propaganda pipeline tells me the west is evil and Iran is actions of the most moral countries out there!!
Jfc
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it was iran?
lmao I can’t fucking read
“We are struggling against sanctions and need to build our own capacities up and become more independent.”
“Better attack the people we need to do it then. A piece of cloth is more important than our survival.”
Several comments on the “real” Islam, sad…
