• idunnololz
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    2 years ago

    Indoor cat owner here. I will say I think if you really want your cats to be outdoors you can buy special collars that will prevent them from killing birds. I did 15 minutes of research so this might not be entirely correct but it appears that putting a bell on them is not enough. It needs to be a special collar specifically designed to prevent them from killing birds.

    Source: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/general-science/should-i-attach-bell-my-cats-collar

    • @[email protected]
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      02 years ago

      Won’t stop them from getting themselves run over, or catching FIV or FeLV, or getting mauled by my German shepherd when they hop into my backyard. PLEASE just keep them inside.

        • @[email protected]
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          02 years ago

          Dogs need to go outside. Cats don’t. My dogs stay on my property, your cats don’t stay on yours. I don’t want to bury any more cats, so please just keep them inside.

  • keeb420
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    32 years ago

    american police can fix it with one simple trick, pet owners hate it.

  • @[email protected]
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    282 years ago

    Australian cat owner here. owners that aren’t responsillble enough to keep their cats inside are deadset dickheads. the most my cat sees of the outside is our backyard when I take her for a walk either leashed up or in my arms, and even then her killer instinct is so obvious as she tracks lizards lying in the garden and such. cats are born hunters. keep them inside

    • @[email protected]
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      132 years ago

      American cat-directed can opener here: re outdoor cats - we have so many of the same dickheads here. We have coyotes on a nearby trail that eat cats all the time, you’d think their owners would care enough to keep them indoors but no such luck.

      My cat has taken the time to break me in, he’s not going to want to train a new can opener and is happy at home indoors.

  • @[email protected]
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    142 years ago

    I see so many missing cat flyers around my neighbourhood it’s depressing, and yet people keep letting their cats outside. It’s bad from just about every angle I don’t understand why people keep doing it.

  • @[email protected]
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    642 years ago

    Good.

    Australian with three cats here - they’re all indoor and happy about it because i’m not a shitarse pet owner. An outdoor cat in Australia is ecological genocide

    • @[email protected]
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      2 years ago

      From the cats perspective I think it’s quite uncontroversial to say they’d be happier roaming free.

      EDIT: I’d really love to hear the argument for why a cat actually prefers to live its enitire life indoors, despite this being something we’ve only done to them for the past few decades or so.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        I mean even if they would rather be outside, they live longer inside, they are healthier and they would have better deads

      • @[email protected]
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        2 years ago

        We’ve selected for traits that make some of them only really suitable at being indoor companions or mouse hunters.

        Hairless cats for just one instance.

        These aren’t wild animals.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 years ago

          Okay, sure, but that doesn’t apply to the vast majority of cats. Your average house cat is much more a wild animal than a dog for example and it’s quite ridiculous to think they’d prefer being indoors.

      • @[email protected]
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        I could literally leave my back door wide open and Cerys would not step foot out it. She hates the outdoors. Punkin’s stuck his nose out a few times, but it holds no real interest for him and Misha - who was an abandoned cat that literally decided to move in with us and has lived an extensive part of her life as an in-out cat could not give a shit about going outside.

        Needs are met - food, safety, security and entertainment - they’re very happy.

        But all of that is downright irrelevant. We are talking about an introduced species that wreaks unimaginable ecological damage if left to its own devices. Why the almighty fuck would a cat’s fee-fees override that? Not to mention the cat safety issues. I mean i’m sure punkin would be ‘happier’ with his balls intact merrily raping and impregnating his sister and mother but that shit ain’t happening either.

  • @[email protected]
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    372 years ago

    It’s crazy how it’s seen as socially acceptable to “adopt” or “rescue” them and then release them to freely roam your neighbourhood as an invasive species.

    • @[email protected]
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      Aww but lil Spencer was so happy and always knew how to avoid cars before he got run over

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        There are a handful of kitties in our neighborhood and fuck, they make me so nervous any time they’re even remotely close to the road. As far as I know they’re all housed, and the lady a few doors down to me said, “just tell him to go home and he will!” If I see him on the wrong side of the road I pick his ass up and put him back in his yard.

        My cats stay inside. We’ve let them out on the deck (supervised) but the rule is if one single toe bean leaves the deck, it’s inside time.

  • @[email protected]
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    232 years ago

    Im so mad with people not willing to put down feral cats, the live of a single cat is worth more than the live of the hundreds of wild animals that it will kill in its lifetime? Fucking not, but some people are delusional and only think in the cute cat pics. They say ignorance is bliss

    • Sentient Loom
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      I definitely think one pet is worth hundreds of wild animals. I even believe that one pet’s happiness is worth the lives of hundreds of wild animals.

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      Buy biodiversity is more important than the happiness of all those pets. Something should be done if this is a real threat to the ecosystem.

    • mihor
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      22 years ago

      You’re an entitled speciist! If cats are good at hunting, it’s just nature’s way of creating balance and it’s none of your goddamn business to prevent that. In my personal opinion people like you (entitled speciist scum) are redundant and we don’t need you on planet Earth.

        • mihor
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          22 years ago

          Neither were 99% of australians, you illiterate dummy.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 years ago

                It is similar to the Dodo bird. Humans(Dutch settlers) brought Dogs and other predators to the island(Mauritius) where Dodo birds lived. Over time, the dogs and humans overhunted the bird to extinction. dogs were good guides and predators, same thing with the cats we brought to Australia. Humanity has done unfixable damage by bringing species that would not know better.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            It is similar to the Dodo bird. Humans(Dutch settlers) brought Dogs and other predators to the island(Mauritius) where Dodo birds lived. Over time, the dogs and humans overhunted the bird to extinction. dogs were good guides and predators, same thing with the cats we brought to Australia. Humanity has done unfixable damage by bringing species that would not know better.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            And that also means we caused many species’ to go extinct, and we did!! Mass colonization actually has caused extinctions for tons of species, including the Dodo bird.

    • Helmic [he/him]
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      62 years ago

      TNR works absolutely fine at reducing feral cat populations. The issue is not that people are not killing enough cats, it’s that getting a cat spayed or neutered can be expensive and therefore inaccessible to a lot of people, and a lot of dickhead liberals just expect poor people to not have pets if they can’t keep $10,000 USD in the bank at all times to cover emergency vet expenses (legit shit you’ll see bandied around as advice for “responsible” owners). An effective response would be offering free spay, neuter, and chip services for all pets, alongside people keeping their pets indoors, and maybe offering stuff like pine litter for free to address some reasons why people might want their cat to be outside.

  • Rhaedas
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    92 years ago

    *cat owners

    And I’m not sure how a curfew is going to work since that relies on cats to give one ounce of shit.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Simple, cats that are outside past X o’clock get taken to the RSPCA and they’re put up for adoption after a week without being claimed.

      • Rhaedas
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        52 years ago

        Partially. It also relies on the cat listening to the owner when they try to get them inside. Some cats will, but most come when they feel like it. “Like herding cats” has its meaning for a reason.

        Pets in general shouldn’t be allowed to roam freely outside. There’s too many dangers to them and things they can do to cause problems.

        • Deceptichum
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          52 years ago

          Entirely.

          If you can’t keep your cat inside on time, than keep it inside all the time. This is 100% on the owner, they have the capabilities to stop it.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      Australian farmers have, unfortunately, had to find certain methods of enforcing curfews on cats. Keep 'em inside, folks.