RIP to the monkeys. They deserved better.
I went to a major medical university and studied humanities. The amount of soon-to-be doctors and nurses complaining about why they needed to study things like ethics, philosophy, or history astounded me, it’s like these people didn’t want to deal with the human aspect of medicine and instead just wanted to make money.
I wouldn’t be shocked if more medschool students dropped out from the humanities courses than the medical ones, they hated it
Noticed the same when I studied computer science. My fellow students complained about having to study the history of computers, ethics, social studies and especially ex.phil. "I just want to program all day, not study things I will never use!’
I switched bachelor programmes after a couple of years
There was any soon-to-be psychologist or psychiatrist among those students? And, if so, how did they reacted? 👀
So it’s working as intended then?
It’s funny because doctors make like nothing compared to finance bros.
Was this in 'murica?
*Laughs in big pharma*Unsolicited petulance like this is why, instead of being empathetic about a situation we both share, I will never not laugh myself to tears as I watch the NHS deal with its massive backlog by killing brits via slowly privatizing.
You’re like the weird kid on the playground, pulling our hair because you have a crush on us
Mate, nobody is crushing on the American healthcare system
I had more fun studying the required courses than CS at my university. I read TAoCP for fun in high school I could sleep through most classes. If I could do it again, I’d do geology as my profession.
I didn’t hate them, but it’s tough when every professor assigns homework like they’re the only class you’re taking.
Not meaning to imply they should be dropped, but looking at the state of the world most people aren’t internalizing anything from the humanities.
I had a professor that said a good student will study Monday to Saturday the amount of hours a day as the amount of credits you take. Take Sundays off. We all had 15 credits a semester.
I was interested in the humanities, so I interacted with that material very deeply. I would say that most of my classmates weren’t interested in humanities, but they weren’t really interested (as in curious, questioning, interacting) with the STEM classes either.
You even have to study the history of film if you’re in filmmaking school.
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Did any of those courses succeed in teaching empathy, sociality, ethic? If it’s similar to what I experienced in my university, it didn’t do jack shit. University is great at teaching scientific knowledge but horrible at teaching philosophy. I learn more about ethics, philosophy and history via YouTube than from university
Students have an obligation to respond and receive the materials. If you chose not to engage with the classes, then that’s on you, but it’s generally a good thing for doctors and people working with the public to have an education on things like empathy and history (specifically the history of discrimination against marginalized groups).
I learn more about ethics, philosophy, and history via YouTube than from university
Oh, you’re one of those people.
You sound like a jerk
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Why do you have to be rude? They were simply claiming the classes were not effective at their apparent goal of making students more ethical. It doesn’t mean they don’t think doctors should be ethical.
I also had to take a required ethics class, and it was the worst taught class I ever took there. It wasn’t effective at teaching me about ethics, it was just a pile of bad tests, and it certainly wasn’t effective at convincing me and the other students to be more ethical in our respective careers.
The free website where many people put up easy to access high quality educational resources is a great way to learn stuff on a budget. Not all of youtube is great but being rude to people who watch youtube videos to make yourself feel bigger is shitty.
I once had a chemistry professor who used to work as a senior drug researcher at a major pharmaceutical company. He often joked about how the company treated the monkeys used for testing far better than the PhDs. If a monkey suffered a negative reaction there was a major investigation. I’m incredibly surprised Musk can be killing monkeys left and right and hasn’t been thrown in jail.
He could probably shoot somebody dead in Times Square and nothing would happen to him…
But could he grab them by the… nevermind, if he can buy a horse, he can do anything.
Here is a cnn article about it.
Elon wasn’t really involved with it. A university was.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/17/business/elon-musk-neuralink-animal-cruelty-intl-scli/index.html
You mean someone went onto the internet just to tell lies? on purpose?!
The difference is that guy was working at a major pharmaceutical research firm with animal advocates and whistle-blowers and accrediting board all over them. Musk’s group is new and is still in the fucking around phase. As soon as they have to answer to any outside org, suddenly this will be a huge liability.
We’re still in the ‘move fast, kill monkeys’ phase.
So agile. Much lean.
Please explain how this is a meme.
Well hating Elon has become all you need.
Not…really. I mean, I hate Elon too but that doesn’t make it a meme by itself. It’s how it is presented, and this ain’t it, friend.
I’m agreeing with you.
Oh.
I apologize. I didn’t realize.
Down vote and move on. That’s how this works.
Well my instance doesn’t allow downvotes, so… shrug
No one knows what a meme is anymore. And idk if mods care.
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Wow! Been a while since I’ve seen a Michael Crichton quote. I think I’ll have to do a reread of Jurassic Park now.
He’s not even stem the dude is a business major freak
I think he did actually major in physics
I don’t think he actually finished that degree. I could be wrong, but i think theres some questions around it
well he’s clearly a dumbass now so whatever happened with that degree he can’t have learned all that much
No he didnt he has the same degree in the same uni as our big wet boy.
Bussiness freak, failing upward with bazinga characteristics
He’s a major freak. He paid off Penn for his education.
His education is clearly limited to color by numbers.
Business/economics and politics students also need classes in ethics.
Should start in kindy, tbh.
Eveyone needs it. Aristotle starts out his Nicomachean ethics stating that virtuous acts are first and foremost for the benefit of the virtuous person.
Platonic ethics should also really be taught widely, even more so than Aristotle’s because they’re easier to receive. Even if he has some hard to accept views such as that commiting injustice is worse than suffering it, everyone would benefit if children grew up with the notion that everyone does what they think best, and that those who do “wrong” things do so out of ignorance of what is good, rather than what we currently have where everyone knows what is objectively good, and those who don’t do it are willfully wrongdoers and you just need to punish them enough and they’ll become good.
Although you can have the best educational plans in the galaxy if the educarional system is crap. I don’t know about the rest of the world, but where I’m from all education from primary school to a master’s degree is just a bunch of information being thrown at you with 0 context and reasoning behind it, and when you’re able to reproduce that information on demand (without any context): congratz, you’re educated!
Yes, but they cant win capitalism if they apply those lessons though.
The other 8 died, too. In excruciating pain. One of them vomited to death. These people are barbaric and should face animal cruelty charges.
Source?
You’re looking at a tweet from well over a year ago. They’ve killed well over 1500 animals at this point, and I think you might want to look up “neuralink” on literally any news site.
And I’ve also seen that they just had to put them down because that’s a requirement when they cannot prove if the animals might be suffering, which is hard to do with brain implants.
Same kind of source.
I thought they were still experimenting on pigs. God damn.
Bazinga mindset is a helluva thing
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And he wanted to put those in humans?!?
Correction… still does
At least you get to take an ethics class. Mine was just about patents and Therac-25
I mean, we really don’t want a repeat of the Therac-25
Still can’t believe it happened the first time.
“Oh let’s just reuse the code and forget the hardware breakers on the machine it’ll be fine.”
Like I have no ethics training but they even had a (human operated) control rod in the first chicago pile who trusts a radiation gun to a SOFTWARE toggle?
It wasn’t collectively known that software was hard to do right at that time. If it always performed as intended it would have made for a less expensive and perfectly safe machine. It’s the textbook case in doing software wrong because there wasn’t one that happened before it.
I only learned about it from the “Well There’s Your Problem” podcast. Can’t believe my school never talked about it. We did hear all about Challenger though as well as a few other disasters where the lesson was “If you cut corners, or take chances, people can DIE”
I still think we should try it on musk himself. Those monkeys just didnt have moxie
Considering his recent behavior, I think he already tried it
Who could be controlling the chip?
A monkey of course
It’s cute you believe that he is actually delivering a product that works.
He is just torturing animals for his own delusions.
This startrek.website site loads like 15% of the time for me. It’s really annoying.
How do I upload this bin file to my neuralink firmware ? DD?
It’s been a bit laggy and inconsistent since the instance switched hosts last week. I wonder if that’s still it…
