SUMMARY
- The EU has identified WhatsApp as a gatekeeper in the messaging industry and has given it a few months to enable interoperability with other apps.
- The EU’s Digital Markets Act aims to promote fair competition and give consumers more options for alternative services.
- WhatsApp has already begun working on interoperability with other apps, potentially allowing smaller players like Signal to compete more fairly.
I setup my own matrix instance and ran a few bridges on it, so I don’t need WhatsApp thanks
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How does that solve communication with people that are exclusively on whatsapp?
There’s a whatsapp bridge.
I never used matrix or bridges so I don’t know what that means. Do you still need a whatsapp account? What do people using whatsapp see when you send messages to them? How does encryption work if you bridge something like signal, if there are “bridges” for other apps out there? Can i bridge viber on my phone and avoid the annoying ads that way, how reliable is it?
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You login to your account with the bridge, so the bridge can pretend to be you.
I’ve been reading a bit about it, it sounds good in theory but I’m not sure most people are willing to selfhost (since otherwise you’re just trusting another party with your data anyway) and maintain all these bridges for something as crucial as day to day communication that should be stable. It kinda wraps it all in a single point of failure as well.
Still seems like the EU legislation could be a better option, if I can just interface with everything through signal or telegram.
Matrix is FOSS, Synapse (Matrix server) is FOSS, bridges are FOSS. The only thing stopping most people is a server that can run 24/7
Bridges?
You can set up bridges to link to your other messengers. Then you will only need Matrix to be able to reply to everyone.
How
This is the way
Doubt it
Not a fucking chance!
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It does not. Discord was not recognized as a gatekeeper.
Do people here know about beeper, i would make it my main but it doesnt support calls and stuff which unfortunately makes it a dealbraker. I hope in the future we will be meta free
No, 1st time hearing about it. Apparently, it uses a matrix homeherver that uses open source bridges to connect to 15 different chat networks. If it supported calls would be great. Should give it a try regardless later. Anyway, here’s the faq for anyone interested: https://www.beeper.com/faq
On a side note, I was wondering. Can’t WhatsApp ban you for using a 3rd party client? I heard that used to be the case before. But, I’m not sure what it’s it like today.
I have no idea if they would ban you, i atleast havent heard of that happening. Also just so you know there is is waitlist for signing up and it can take months
I used it a bit, but you need a WhatsApp account to chat with WhatApp user.
The goal is to have all your account and messages in one App, but you still need one account per Service (whatspapp, telegram, twitter … ).
Yes of course, but till we have that its a very good workaround
I do, but I’m on a waitlist (and don’t want to selfhost) so I’ve not been able to try it out yet (I don’t make calls through WhatsApp, so I see the lack of support as a benefit).
Oh I see, then it would probably be perfect for you, hope you get the invite soon
Message me and I’ll send you an invite link to skip the waitlist. I think it’s a thing I can do on the desktop app now
Oh, thank you very much! Will send you a DM.
This looks pretty good, signing up for the wait-list.
Whoa this is bonkers! Would be great if all apps supported RCS as a fallback
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Genuinely interested:
Made obsolete by what protocols?
Odd way to spell Matrix.
I can assure you, it won’t for me. The only people I ever see using it IRL are meth heads and prostitutes lol
You run with an interesting crowd.
And this is where I wonder, how long until Matrix servers preemptively defederate from WhatsApp?
Probably won’t. WhatsApp is already huge. Threads was a new platform with artificially inflated user numbers.
Why though? To avoid users leaving Signal for Whatsapp? if you need to chat with someone through matrix into whatsapp, right now you laready have whatsapp installed. I prefer to talk to whatsapp users from a more secure app, thanks.
Nostr fixes this.
Simplex.Chat fixes this.
Why is this being presented as “whatsapp will be the one and only” instead of “whatsapp won’t be the only option”? The DMA will users to install nearly any chat app and chat with users from another chat app.
Where are you getting “the one and only” from? Are you misinterpreting “one-stop solution”?
What are you interpreting “one-stop solution” as?
I will finally be able to replace fucking SMS with a few people that simply won’t switch to Signal, I simply won’t use Whatsapp and that did cause some security issues till now!
It already is outside the US
Nice try, WhatsApp.
Eww no get that trash outta here