It’s incredible how much the prices have fallen and that’s how it should be. Sure, I bought the 960 close to launch but still the difference is staggering.
The 960 Evo still chugs along albeit it’s a new one because a few months after I bought it, I had to RMA it. I guess that’s what happens when you are an early adopter. I lost a few hours of work when the original 960 Evo decided to stop working but it also taught me to be more paranoia with backups.
Good to see the prices are going down when everything else is getting crazzy expensive.
I bought some SSD in 2019 worth of 290$ and payed with 0.5 ethereum. That would be 900+$ today kekw
Cheap af!
Amazing to see!
By this point do USB sticks make sense anymore as opposed to a super fast SSD inside an enclosure? It seems like the former hasn’t seen any technical progress in years eitherI usually have one USB stick tied to my keys, just in case. I can’t imagine carrying an enclosed SSD everywhere with me.
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I’ve had SD cards fail catastrophically though, unlike ssds and hdds.
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They can be failry small though, no? The NVME form factor allows for something that is maybe two times longer than a usual USB stick, so it’s still reasonably small and a tad harder to lose
My Dell XPS has a 256gb nvme for it’s OS maybe it’s time I upgraded it 🤔
Deflation is beautiful, send more of those
It’s only deflated because our storage needs have vastly inflated! This is like 6 AAA games and maybe a couple movies
Honestly storage requirements haven’t gone up that much since 2014. Storage speed did go up tho
Yes, and I also think this is because there are more and more storage providers
How many AAA games do you keep installed at the same time? I max out at maybe three, personally. Realistically I’d be more than content with just two: current game + next game.
I like options damnit!
I like to be able to just pick a random game and start playing, so I always have 100+ games installed.
For a sense of scale the entire Atari 2600 Library could fit on a floppy multiple times over.
That’s good to see. :) What’s a good and reliable brand/model to look out for? I don’t trust many of those unknown (to me at least) manufacturers with the cheapest prices.
Samsung is starting to have major issues. There are lists online telling you which batches are bad. A bunch of my SSDs from them died, and if you’re outside the US, they won’t warranty them. They tell you to go to the store you bought them from, and the store you bought them from tells you to go to Samsung.
I’m no longer buying Samsung. They can burn in hell.
Samsung has always seemed like the reliable (albeit expensive) option to me. I personally went with a 2TB Sabrent NVMe because it was on sale and it hasn’t failed me yet.
It’s wild how cheap SSDs and ram are right now. It’s so tempting to upgrade both on my main PC.
Doing it on Black Friday is even more tempting
What’s stopping you?
Mainly my current setup is pretty decent and a meaningful upgrade would be a few hundred dollars even at current amazing prices.
With that said, I have taken advantage of the amazing prices in my homelab.
32 gb ram and 1tb Samsung 980 Evo gen 4 nvme for $120 is insanity compared to like 2 years ago.
The absence of a bottleneck.
Truth.
Don’t worry guys, manufacturer’s are doing their best to cut supply to raise prices again. Gotta love them.
Puts a tear to my eye. My laptop still has a 256gb m.2 SSD as its main drive because everything else was too expensive at the time.
Just made a new build, 6 tb of Evo was less than $300. Prices are great at the moment
For over a decade I’ve been waiting for HDD prices to fall to 10 € per TB. Guess I’ll see that in SSDs first.
HDD probably cost more to manufacture
For NAS purposes that’d be delicious.
https://youtu.be/5QH8Dj6g_Nk Might be what OP watched too. I was surprised they’ve gotten so cheap.
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That’s a good point. Maybe I should upgrade my NAS to have SSD’s now.
Until you would have to replace a HDD: +23 hours of nerve racking RAID repair time for 10TB drive at 120MB/s Even with some advanced (like ZFS etc.) system you can’t go around the fact the HDDs are slow.
And when the HDD fails, you can’t read it. It’s toast. Some cheap non-volatile memory devices are like this too, but good ones go into read-only mode and you can at least attempt data recovery from them if no better option is left.
I’m liking that it is possible get cheap+good 1TB NVMe devices for less than 100€. The consumer SATA market for large SSDs (capacity over 1TB) is unfortunately quite dry. I need replacement for HDDs and even if the speed is capped by SATA bus it would be an massive improvement.
That repair time is the bear. Particularly as so many consumer grade NAS device really don’t have the horsepower for it. System works great until you have to rebuild an array. When that time comes don’t plan on doing much of anything while it’s grinding for the next few days.
Yup, there’s a Linustech tip video about this. HDD prices have kinda been set in stone for a good while now
Couldn’t find it within 5 minutes of searching - therefor I accounce that such a video does not exist
Let me see if I can find it. LMG pumps out tons of videos
Could be hardware unboxed FAQ actually.
Are you still in there?
So, maybe HDD can hardly get any more cheaper as there is little to non room for improvement while SSD can get higher NAND transistors density.
Just since I’ve setup a plex server (about 8 years now) midrange sizes have gone from 4->16 TBs. Personally I think the bulk of the issue is that HDD customers switched from a mix of enterprise and personal, to nearly all enterprise. Companies really don’t care if a HDD is $200 or $500, so basically all high capacity drives are priced at B2B prices, not consumer
do you think you can link the video?
We’re very close. 30TB HAMR drives are expected later this year, and 50TB a year or two later. I think HDDs will continue to present the best value for data hoarders.
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Yeah, so whats up with that? I looked into getting a NAS and the thing itself is ok, but the HDD price is so out there it seems crazy to do.
I remember I spent ~$330 on 8TB HDDs and now you can get 20 TB for around the same price.
Spinny drives are definitely going up in price. Recently did a NAS build (5x16tb in z1), and disks were the biggest cost by far. And then like a couple weeks after I pulled the trigger on the disks, I couldn’t find anything comparable that was anything close to what I paid - easily 20-30% more expensive at best. I’m very glad I bought them when I did!
If I had to guess, consumer-grade PCs are starting to shift to SSDs exclusively now that NVMe can be had dirt cheap for decent quality. I think huge old-school disks are basically being mostly relegated to data centers now, and even then, the demand isn’t what it was before (again, due to far cheaper SSDs across the board, even at the enterprise/DC tier). I would further hypothesize that the recent cliff-like price hike may have been due to retailers burning through available inventory, and now they’re dealing with major HDD manufacturers seriously scaling back production capacity.
Might be local price fluctuations or some issues with supplies. About 3 years ago I got a 14 TB HC530 for about 450 EUR; now there’s the 22 TB HC570 for about the same money and a 20 TB model for about 100 EUR less.
Yeah, who knows… I’m just glad I was able to buy a batch of NAS-optimized 16s at around $220/each :P
$220 is definitely under the regular price for something like this; so you’ve caught some good prices, then saw the regular prices again later.
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I wonder then, if for low capacity NAS home systems using these consumer drives is a good idea. Drives certified with “NAS reliabilty”, ssd or hdd, are still as expensive as they have always been, is it a ripoff?
You young fellas sit back, I’mma tell you about the time in '96 that I bought a 1GB hard drive for a thousand doll-hairs. And then later that year got 64MB of RAM for another thousand doll-hairs, and the next month the price dropped in half. I could run two java programs AT THE SAME TIME!
I bought a Pentium 75 in 1995. It had a 1GB hdd and 16MB of ram with Windows 3.11 and 28.8k modem. It cost me $5000. In 1995 dollars that’s $9,977.92 which seems insane.
I got excited when we got a math-coprocessor for our 386 33MHz. I tried my hardest to get a sound blaster card so I didn’t have to use PC speaker to play games (namely TFX), but it was deemed too expensive for little reward.
Your parents weren’t worried about the math co-processor doing all your homework for you? That was the GPT-387? :-)
I had typewriter classes back then!!! Homework came on “photocopies” from a handcranked machine that had a lot of rollers from memory. I have no idea what it was, but it was witchcraft!
Edit: I looked it up for curiosity sake, and the “witchcraft” machine might have been called a mimeograph.
The wonderful ditto machine! Loved the smell of those copies!
My father went a bit nuts and bought our first family computer some time around '85. It was an 8088 Turbo XT with a 10MB hard drive. It was something like a $3,000 computer (which would be similar to $8,500 today, with inflation). That hard drive was so big, we thought we’d never fill it. The biggest game we had at the time, Star Flight took up two 360KB floppies, and both my brother and I could each have our own copies on the hard drive, without worrying about space. It was amazing.
But, tech moves on and what was once “bleeding edge” becomes old hat. I’m pretty sure there are calculators which can emulate that entire 8088. And, 10MB is a rounding error on modern drives. I also have little doubt that, 40 years from now we’ll look back at 1TB hard drives and think “oh, how quaint”.
At least graphics cards were affordable then.
First time I built a computer (late '97), I had to settle for the 850MB HDD. The 1GB was just outside my budget.
The family computer had a 40 gig hard drive until about 2008.
Our first family computer they offered to double the HDD space to 20mb for an extra $500. “You’ll never fill it up!” they claimed. My dad, being a practical guy, couldn’t figure out why he would want to pay extra for something he’d never use.
My dad got tired of struggling so he just told me the future proof a build.
He said “Max out everything” So I did.
128gb ddr4 ram, ryzen 5600 4.6ghz 12 core hyperthreaded CPU, nvidia 2080. (He wouldn’t let me get the 40x card)
curious why you would pair those specs with a mid-range cpu. wouldn’t it have made more sense to go with a ryzen 9 if you were maxing everything out?
Well To be honest java is a slug, especially on old hardware. If you wanted speed you would use some c or Assembler program…
I had been programming C for almost a decade at that time, and was tired of working so low level. I hoped Java would get me higher level, but it didn’t work out. Eventually ended up on Python, which was fairly light weight, fast enough, but a joy to program (unlike java).
I once was able to store everything I needed on a couple of 100 mb Zip disks. And amazingly they didn’t fail on me despite using them all the time.
No joke though, in the 90s you could buy a HDD with a size advertised on the box and get it home to find that the drive was actually bigger than advertised. They were making advances so fast in the manufacturing that they literally didn’t have the time (or it wasn’t worth the cost) to keep up with updating the boxes.
Ram is $50/mb, HDD $1/mb.
A blank CD-R is $10, but stores as much as 400 floppies!
A blank CD-R is $10, but stores as much as 400 floppies!
But you also need to purchase a CD drive which is another $15 making it more expensive than a 128 GB SSD.
I think a 128MB CF drive would have cost $thousands in 1996.
What’s the catch?
I mean is it getting cheaper because SSDs generally have lower life expectancy?
More supply & lower demand = cheaper goods, plus technology that creates it gets more wide spread so competition arises, and many other factors contribute to the fall in prices such as an improved model coming out making older models cheaper.
The increasing spread of cheap good technology isn’t really about the new hotness coming out it’s about last decade stuff finally becoming affordable.
