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You do know how much water is wasted to produce avocados, right? 💧
You do know how much water is wasted to produce comments like this, right?
Real talk, a lot of keyboard environmentalists would be surprised to know how much electricity the innocent little internet uses.
You can take my almonds and my beef, but not avocados. That’s the line.
I accept your almonds and beef.
If I stop buying them, will that solve a problem?
Did a bit of googling. Found this article:
https://www.greenmatters.com/p/avocado-environmental-impactLooks like the main issue is that they tend to be grown in areas that may be prone to drought, so there’s a concern that they may deprive the community of water.
The same article also says:
“Monoculture crops like avocados wind up drawing all the nutrients from the soil, slowly degrading it year after year. This makes the soil less fertile over time until it is no longer viable for growing”.
So yeah, buying avocados is pretty much a sin against nature.
That’s just irresponsible farming. It can happen with almost any crop.
To a degree, yes.
Almonds?
No, avocados. Try to keep up, mate.
Yeah you definitely shouldn’t ring up pine nuts as de-shelled sunflower seeds, or use the scan-one add-three to your bag technique at self-checkout 👀
The fact that things like this never occur to me as possibilities goes to show just how naive I am about how the world works
It’s all fun and games until you are banned from the local grocery stores .Loss prevention is pretty good these days. It’s the Internet though, they really aren’t stealing. It’s internet tough guy shit.
I was at one and moved an unscanned item to close to the bagging area and the screen froze then showed an areal cam of me getting too close to the bagging area.
Oh hell that’s creepy
How is having a camera on what you are checking out creepy?
Most self checkouts use cameras and AI where I am.
Where I used to live, the self checkout didn’t even accept Google Pay.
Aw, that’s the best part. I love paying with my ridiculous smart watch that I didn’t need.
Well too bad you spent so much money on a watch that needs to be charged every day.
It was a stupid impulse buy, yes…
Oh these are the worst. I had an Apple watch Series 0 I got cheap from a friend. Was pretty neat, but the charging was annoying.
Now I have a Casio GBD-200 which gives me a few smartwatch features (notifications, phone finder, vibration) with a battery that lasts 1-2 years and since it’s a G-Shock I don’t have to worry about damaging it.
Oh I’m so tough, look at me… stealing from a grocery store
You sound like a good person who returns their shopping cart
For some reason not returning the shopping cart makes me angrier than the meme about abusing self checkout.
I am not a lazy bones.
I return my shopping cart but I couldn’t give a shit less how much Walmart is losing to shoplifters.
“Oh know guys! We only made $28 million in profit this year instead of $29 million! What will we tell our investors who are each worth six times that?”
$28 million
I like your Dr. Evil-esque way of getting the order of magnitude wrong
You’re right, they made ~$150 billion last year, but that’s too much math.
Be the change you want to see in the world! The shopping cart/parking lot affects us all. Walmart losing money on every avocado doesn’t bother me at all.
In fact walmart probably doesn’t care at all either, they’ll take electricity over humans any day
I want to see corporate profits shrink!
A friend of mine told me that when he worked at a grocery store as a teenager that he always liked being tasked with rounding up the grocery carts in the parking lot because he got to go outside and be by himself for a bit. I think about that a lot, but I also return my cart.
Damn, now I’m going to think of those kids when I return the cart! Maybe I could like, pile them up real bad in the little hut so they can still get fresh air.
Great, since those carts are returned by good people now, it means they can have a 5 minute break outside in the sun instead.
Former grocery store teen here. It was nice to get away from customers a little, but then again then you’re stuck in a parking lot with those same customers and now you have to try and avoid getting run over.
I always thought it was nice except for when the weather was terrible like when it was really hot or cold and you were out there with numb hands shoving 30 carts across a snow covered parking lot.
It was only occasionally good
Me returning the cart makes a person’s job easier.
Stealing doesn’t affect the workers.
Funfact: Walmart pays the vendors (usually local person who rents their own truck and buys their own stock) on scan data. If it doesn’t scan, Walmart is also not affected.
I have had the thought when buying 2 donuts from the bakery section I could ring it up as 1, but then I realize that it might lead to trouble just to save maybe a dollar at most.
Tech quickie
the fuckers have cameras and “AI” detection here, if it looks and sees something it doesn’t think is a banana the whole thing stops and signals a staff over. doing groceries is seriously more fucked than going through airport security now.
fuck Woolworths and coles
Organic veg looks just like regular veg. Just saying
That’s why I bag bananas and apples, weigh only 1 or 2 and have the rest of the bag off the side. As close to “on the house” as possible
There is a DVR product called SaleGuard that can detect this from existing or integrated camera systems. It tends to work fairly well.
I mean, they’re not gonna nab you for apples unless they get enough of a rolling tally on what you took to actually prosecute usually. That’s what most corps do.
Wonder how advanced it is. Maybe you could get away with avocado as loose potatoes as the shape is closer.
colour probably matters too. you could probably get away with something in mushroom bags (brown paper bag) but of course only worth it for things worth more than mushrooms
My buddy used to do that with steaks. He’d scan it as pork but it’s was steak inside the package. Good times!
Ricky?
Don’t feel bad, you earned it. Imagine how it’s cheaper for companies to pay god knows how much on anti-theft measures instead of paying a living wage to cashiers.
ps. You should never use self checkout. We’ve all been tricked into thinking we can do it better/faster ourselves.
I use self checkout because I don’t want to fake a conversation with the cashier.
I also am particular about how I bag things. I agree with the sentiment of self checkouts being lame and taking jobs and all that jazz, but eh. There’s bigger fish to fry than this one, and many people like it anyway
With the automation tech of 10 years ago we could have 70% unemployment world-wide and still produce western middle-class living standards for absolutely everyone, and tech only became better since then. Cars would be an issue but who needs one when there’s proper public transit but a home, healthy food, education, healthcare, PC and washing machine with integrated dryer? No problem.
Capital isn’t going for it because the ROI on most automation is just too long-term and R&D doesn’t look good on quarterly profits, for now it’s cheaper to hire humans in many areas especially when you can outsource. But it’s not a question of whether it’ll happen but when, and whether it’ll be an utopia or fuckers like Thiel will be able to create their preferred neo-feudal societies.
Same. When I’m forced to go through a cashier because my cart has too many items, I meticulously put items in batches on the conveyor so similar stuff stay together; only for the cashier or bagger to mix them all up in the bags anyway. I try as much as possible to bag them myself but it’s kinda awkward to tell the bagger not to do their job. Or if there’s no bagger, it’s awkward seeing the cashier and the next customer waiting for me to finish bagging so they can start ringing up stuff. It’s self-checkout for me definitely.
The employees where I shop are underpaid and understaffed. They have to be there for the elderly, kids and differently-abled though. I’m happy to give them a break and scan my own shit. Usually they get to just stand around and talk to each other while I do, if they aren’t busy, which makes me feel kind of nice.
LOL companies actually encourage this fake bullshit. It’s called “adding value to the relationship” Bet you didn’t realize that someone putting your canned beans and tampons into paper bags constituted a relationship.
Where I live cashiers don’t bag your stuff. I wouldn’t consider that a default
Yep this depends on the store.
I go to self checkout because my closest supermarket has one cash register and the queue is always like 6 old people
I use self-checkout because I have a “20% off your entire cart” coupon that I don’t want to give up. When I scan it, I just put a random piece of paper into the slot so the machine registers that I put something in there. In this way, I kind of am getting paid to scan my own groceries.
The grocery store should also plan out my meals, drive me to their store, put the items in the cart for me, and then scan them all for me. Also they need to drive me back home instead of outsourcing that to me, and then they need to cook supper for me or they’re just cheaping out.
What a fucking brain rot take.
I agree, too much fucking time on their hands. Outrage on the simplest shit
Well, I’m a former cashier and I absolutely do it faster and better than the high school seniors they underpay at my local store. Also, I caught one kid double scanning some of my stuff once. Not sure if it was intentional or just lack of attention, but after that I definitely started using self checkout exclusively.
Because the companies get free labor. I refuse unless it’s legit rush for something.
I wonder if people were pissed off that they had to go through the shop picking up products instead of having the shopkeeper do that for them.
Maybe, but I like being able to shop for myself. I want to look over my produce and meats.
What’s next? Expecting you to go to the store yourself?
ps. You should never use self checkout. We’ve all been tricked into thinking we can do it better/faster ourselves.
Fuck off, it’s faster for me and I vastly prefer it. Quicker, less need to deal with other people and there’s no rush to bag your stuff. If you don’t want to use self-checkout then don’t.
Next year we cry about living in a “food desert”
Nobody lives in a food desert (not sure why you felt the need to do scare quotes there) because of customers ringing up avocados as bananas.
Why do grocery stores close down in neighborhoods leaving food deserts? “They’re not profitable”
This is 1000% the same meme as the “States rights to do what motherfucker?”
I guess overall theft can be a burden to stores so areas where that happen more often (poorer areas I’d guess) are more burdened by that and less profitable. But of course it’s not just because of a singular thing.
If I’m working as a checkout clerk, then I need to be paid minimum wage. My minimum shift is also the mandated three hours.
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Well that was cringy even though I agree with the sentiment
You ever buy the cheap wine, pull off the barcode and bring it back to the store, then buy the fancy expensive stuff with the cheap barcode over the top. They never notice, wine bottles all look the same to them.
The term for that is “slap tagging.”
When I ran the Marine Department at a major outdoor retailer, I was always fighting the warehouse team because they’d just roll out a high-end sonar unit in a cart for my people to stock and walk away, and there were people who would slap that them as shitty units from the same company, and the cashier wouldn’t notice the difference between a Garmin 4CV (about $100) and a Garmin 8612 (about $5000).
c/unethicallifehacks
That and coupon fraud. Remember when people were walking out of the store with free xboxes using coupons they made?
They watch that a little more carefully now.
Just scan a banana as an avacado right after. So they are both on your receipt.
It’s strange how the disproportionality of wealth makes theft seem ok.
In this case it doesn’t, you’re stealing luxury items that are playing a huge huge role in water consumption. It’s like 91 liters of water per day per tree.
And an academic study focusing on global implications for water scarcity from the growth in avocado production says that that growing avocado requires “four times more water than the production of a kilo of oranges and ten times of that of a kilo of tomato”.
Now check up how much water is required for meat, and suddenly realise that you’re maybe fighting the wrong battle here mate.
Yes. Animals drink. They also pee, providing nitrogen fertiliser. It’s even worse when they are raised on a meadow instead of in a barn as then you have rainfall, which percolates.
Never trust a statistic you didn’t fudge yourself.
Don’t forget all the water used to grow their food.
Like 70% of all our crops are grown to feed our livestock.
Have you ever thought about the massive water usage of international shipping?
No I’m serious. People complain about animal agriculture and then want herds of rowing bisons back. I’m actually not opposed to that either but that doesn’t mean that there will be less animals eating less plants. And if we don’t eat them then other predators will.
Regardless.
I’m aware how much water animals consume when compared to plants and there are crops that are simply unjustifiable and are running water reservoirs dry.
If we are to be intellectualy honest regarding preservation of resources, there are no sacred cows.
I agree, but all I’m saying is we can shame people for nearly any partaking in modern western society. Unfortunately, we ourselves are have no other choice thanyo partake ourselves. And our individual choices make very little to change the system. Therefore, I just find it funny that people lecture others on things like avocados. There’s a hundred worse things, but just because someone stole an avocado isn’t going to affect our society. We might as well start with bigger culprits, if we even think that going that route is relevant.
Either way this is a meme. No need to take it seriously.
I would also shoplift meat
Whataboutism is a logical fallacy. One has nothing to do with the other.
Exactly avocados being bad for the environment doesnt have anything to do with having the right to steal them.
Kek
Oranges and tomatoes are also mostly water by weight. If you were to compare the water mass percentages of each of those fruits, you’d probably find the avocado is more efficient in calories and nutrients per water usage.
So is an avocado, density isn’t really an indicator of water weight, you and I are mostly water and still fairly dense.
wait but would paying for it be better? does it just goes into the pocket of the store owner and gives them more motive to sell avocados? anyways i feel bad for enjoying avocados now sob
The best case scenario is people stop buying exotic foods and instead be ok with what is in season with an occasional treat.
Its not that. It’s people taking some payment for having to do the store’s job for them.
There are different types of bread? Oh there is organic and cheap?
Wow sorry but if they outsource even the low income jobs they are so evil they dont deserve anything but that
I’m surprised we haven’t gotten “don’t do this they keep track with cameras until they can charge you with a felony” guy in here yet
So has that ever been debunked? I’m curious how such a system would work but it sounds like fearmongering.
The technology exists. It isn’t that difficult to implement facial tracking on security cameras and maintain a file on shoplifters. Even across multiple stores.
I can’t answer your question, but it is certainly plausible.
Hmm that is scary. I guess face recognition isn’t the only factor either. The way you walk is also quite unique apparently. Like the angle of your feet, how high they go, step size etc
Hmm. Not that I’d risk shoplifting or anything but it’s interesting what companies do against it.
