As white supremacists from as far as Canada revel in intimidating Sunshine State residents, critics blast DeSantis for his silence

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        82 years ago

        Being a Nazi is not an opinion. It’s choosing an ideology of violence. It’s fundamentally an intentional violent act. Being a member should make you an accessory to a hate crime, and be investigated for criminal conspiracy if they come within a mile of a weapon.

    • Dee
      link
      fedilink
      262 years ago

      Lotta meth in the Nazi party, looks like a bit of meth mouth and a side of tobacco dipping to me.

  • vrojak
    link
    fedilink
    192 years ago

    The guy in the picture definitely wouldn’t be among the first to be killed by the original Nazi Party. Absolute master race material right there.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    312 years ago

    In Nazi Germany, the guy in the picture would have been put in a camp before he could even raise his arm.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        182 years ago

        Among other things. I doubt that there would have been any tolerance for his teeth or his tattoos. Also, he would not have been able to convince anyone that he belongs to the same race. He would have been exterminated along with the people he detests.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        72 years ago

        Given equal numbers and technological prerequisites I would believe that old Nazis were more dangerous. Neo Nazis are just brutal lowlifes who usually turn to a hateful ideology in order to create the illusion of being basically valuable and good but held back or even oppressed by [INSERT MINORTITY]. Old Nazis were so invested in their collective psychopathic worldview that they could regard the extermination of others as something that may be pleasant or very hard or even sad but in any way just neccessary, so it had to be done.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        32 years ago

        From a distance you think is the bigoted dumbass seriously walking around in blackface? If you’re unfortunate enough to get closer the context changes but the message remains the same, bigoted dumbass.

  • BOMBS
    link
    fedilink
    English
    802 years ago

    Please stop trying to rationalize with them. Please stop tolerating their hate. These people don’t care about logic or morality. The guy in the photo at the Nazi rally with the tatted face and meth teeth blames his problems on Jews. They only understand power. That’s all they know. That’s the only way they’ll be stopped.

    With that said, can some of y’all come down here to Florida? We’ve got a Nazi problem that’s getting out of control and can use some support. They’ve been here this whole time in hiding, but since the government has recently been tolerant of their intolerance, they’re coming out in pride. They’re cowards that blame their own issues on vulnerable people. They don’t blame their problems on dominant peoples or cultures in power, just the minorities. So, with enough show of strength, they’ll go back into hiding or move away to Argentina.

    Look at their little insurrection attempt. One Capitol officer misled them due to their lack of organization, and another officer fired one round. All it took was a distraction to jack up their plans and one shot for them to tuck tail and run. A coup failed due to a deception and one bullet.

    Imagine if the real Nazis would have been stopped before they built their war machine. That’s where we’re at right now. Things can get soooo much worse if we allow them time to gain more power.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      42 years ago

      Sorry to say but I’ve made it clear to even my employer that Florida is a no go for me. To the point where I will seek out flights that do not have layovers there if it comes to that. Being trans and having the use of bathrooms outlawed forces my hand. A ton of industry conferences are leaving the state as soon as their contracts are up.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      52 years ago

      I used to love Florida, but it’s doomed. Between climate change and fascism we just need to write off the state entirely and build a wall along the Georgia border. Best we can do is try to control the insanity and let those who have decided to stay down there burn themselves out. Better for you to get out than for us to come down.

    • Pelicanen
      link
      fedilink
      13
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      With that said, can some of y’all come down here to Florida? We’ve got a Nazi problem that’s getting out of control and can use some support.

      I don’t mean to be negative but what can other people do? I feel like it’ll be difficult to motivate the average non-racist to move to a place where they might have worse job prospects, get ostracized for their political/social views, and get both harassed and potentially arrested/killed by the police for trying to protest against racism.

        • Pelicanen
          link
          fedilink
          22 years ago

          What’s the implication here? Mass-shooting of right-wing extremists that martyr them and give fuel to further restrict and punish sane people?

          • @[email protected]
            cake
            link
            fedilink
            English
            2
            edit-2
            2 years ago

            The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Kill. Them. All. Just like grandpapi did, once the US finally got off it’s ass and did something.

            • Pelicanen
              link
              fedilink
              2
              edit-2
              2 years ago

              Talk is cheap. The real-world implications of mass-murder are not as easy as one would like to imagine.

              What do you think is more likely, that the powers that be go “Oh, they were nazis, that’s fine then” or “Look, the left are the violent ones, we need to take away the rights of anyone who associates with them!”?

              • @[email protected]
                cake
                link
                fedilink
                English
                1
                edit-2
                2 years ago

                Kill them and when the enforcers come with fascism we kill them too.

                The world used to be a chaotic hellhole for all of humans existence minus the last few decades.

                The default state of humanity was kill or be killed. We didn’t make the world a better place. We made the world a safer place. Safer for exploitation at the hands of comfort.

                It’s time to be uncomfortable.

                If you’re going to come back with some pacifist shit, cram it. The world is a violent place and there will always be people willing to do violence to take away your freedom. It’s time to fight.

                • Pelicanen
                  link
                  fedilink
                  1
                  edit-2
                  2 years ago

                  While I would otherwise probably reiterate that it’s pretty easy to type in words on a keyboard compared to actually having to go through with actual actions, I see the real world and how it functions might not be interesting enough for you so I’ll pass. Have a nice day.

                • @[email protected]
                  link
                  fedilink
                  12 years ago

                  The world used to be a chaotic hellhole for all of humans existence minus the last few decades.

                  This is a somewhat disingenuous take on history as a whole. History is a lot less chaotic than one might expect. A lot of the common conception is a little like how the news focuses on crimes and violence. Like people honestly don’t realize how much the average European peasantry of the 1200’s could actually read or write… Not because they were spending their time penning novels but because of how litigious they were. Cities often created weird exceptions but even in the height of people being executed for minor crimes that violence was more or less concentrated to major cities particularly population centers that hosted the ruling class and those laws were mostly enforced on their dime because of a desire for orderliness in their own backyard.

                  While there are some advancements in development of ethical principles of law, rights of people to be recognized by the ruling elite, lots of healthcare and quality of life advancements particularly in food supply and sanitation … But as far as your average human goes adjusted for Governmental sanctioned violence and suppression of women we are about as individually as violent as we ever were. Some of the medieval violence even seems weirdly quaint by comparison. Particularly some of the anecdotes from the more successful uprisings of the peasant classes from way back. The Victorians were actually quite successful in red washing a lot of history to make it seem much more brutal and horrible than it was… While ignoring their own fairly callous expansions of empire.

                  Applying this desire to kill or be killed as a inviolable part of human nature isn’t supportable. In general the majority of people will put up with quite a lot trying to remain safe and non-violent until it becomes clear that things are getting worse beyond fixing and they reach a more universal concensus that they have a potential future beyond a period of violence.

                  Basically the sanction of violence being the domain of government agents only is your main hurdle. You’d be much more likely to find support in fining their asses into oblivion so they have no free time to march.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    252 years ago

    Just the Disney pullout of their Orlando corporate campus has lost the state a billion in taxable spending. Add to that the cancellation of multiple large conventions and the elimination of consideration for future conventions. Thousands of other businesses, organizations and tourists are cancelling trips and avoiding Florida and this is going to add up to an enormous sum that the state will never recover.

    Lots of conservatives may be fascists, but I’d be willing to bet their attachment to their own economic comfort is stronger than their ideology. IMO Florida’s had enough of DeSantis and he is going to soon join Scott Walker in political oblivion.

    • Cethin
      link
      fedilink
      English
      142 years ago

      Also, the military will likely remove bases there and will not expand existing ones or build new ones. They’re doing so much damage to the state, yet the voters can’t see it somehow.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        122 years ago

        Voters are schmucks unfortunately and a sizable portion won’t be alive to see the consequences.

  • GiantFloppyCock
    link
    fedilink
    122 years ago

    lmfao “Scotty Big Balls” and “Combat Carl”. These guys are complete shitbags but at least I can laugh at their nicknames.