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As white supremacists from as far as Canada revel in intimidating Sunshine State residents, critics blast DeSantis for his silence
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It high time we started scalping these Nazis
Florida HAS the 2A
Good. It’s going to be the first place to drown.
Don’t forget the seaweed blob. The next 1,000 years Florida will be buried in seaweed. Tourism there is going to crash, hard. It’s going to get ugly.
In Nazi Germany, the guy in the picture would have been put in a camp before he could even raise his arm.
Because of his teeth?
Among other things. I doubt that there would have been any tolerance for his teeth or his tattoos. Also, he would not have been able to convince anyone that he belongs to the same race. He would have been exterminated along with the people he detests.
Who would win Old Nazis vs Neo Nazis?
Given equal numbers and technological prerequisites I would believe that old Nazis were more dangerous. Neo Nazis are just brutal lowlifes who usually turn to a hateful ideology in order to create the illusion of being basically valuable and good but held back or even oppressed by [INSERT MINORTITY]. Old Nazis were so invested in their collective psychopathic worldview that they could regard the extermination of others as something that may be pleasant or very hard or even sad but in any way just neccessary, so it had to be done.
Would have? Except he’s here/there now. So?
Do you genuinely have trouble wrapping your head around this?
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Becomes? lol
No one is suggesting DeSantis is a neo-Nazi sympathizer.
I get the impression that this guy might be out of touch.
I’ll suggest it ✋ DeSantis is a neo-Nazi sympathizer.
That dude is so white power, he tattooed himself almost completely black lmao
He just wanted to make sure people knew he was a bigoted dumbass from a distance.
From a distance you think is the bigoted dumbass seriously walking around in blackface? If you’re unfortunate enough to get closer the context changes but the message remains the same, bigoted dumbass.
Sad to see for Florida.
“Magnet of hate”. What a silly headline.
Are these american nazis aware their grandads killed nazis? I’ve always found it bizarre they fell down that rabbit hole.
I think someone should really study what’s going on, or we’ll never get out of this cycle.
People have studied the Holocaust and the Nazi rise to power in great detail.
The problem is the media diet of these bigots doesn’t include the typical educational information someone like me got growing up.
This is the results Sinclair media and Fox News.
I have told everyone exactly where this came from but all anyone wants to do is tell me that nAzIs hAvE fReE sPeEcH rIgHtS!
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/divided-dial-episode-1-true-believers
These goons are barely aware of anything beyond their narrow views.
There was a Nazi party here in the US and a lot of people admired Hitler when he was rebuilding Germany. There were even some members of the press that expressed admiration when they covered the reforms he did.
Privilege can let you get away with a lot of things. There were concentration camps for Japanese-American citizens but none for German or Italian. For the Italians they were asked to persuade their extended families in Italy to stop fighting against us. I’m not sure what was asked for the Germans. My source is from documentaries I’ve seen (I really like this one).
There was widespread racism directed at Italian Americans that ran for decades. My grandmother’s mortgage from 1955 had language referring to Italian America quotas that needed to be referenced so they were not exceeded. That meant the town had to sign off on Italian Americans buying the home.
German is the most common ancestry in America which is likely why we did nothing about German Americans.
From what I learned talking to many WWII vets of German descent, they pretty much all said, “welp our cousins are starting shit again, time to go give them a spanking,” and signed up for service in droves even before Pearl Harbor. Lots of Teddy R. fans in that group.
Just the Disney pullout of their Orlando corporate campus has lost the state a billion in taxable spending. Add to that the cancellation of multiple large conventions and the elimination of consideration for future conventions. Thousands of other businesses, organizations and tourists are cancelling trips and avoiding Florida and this is going to add up to an enormous sum that the state will never recover.
Lots of conservatives may be fascists, but I’d be willing to bet their attachment to their own economic comfort is stronger than their ideology. IMO Florida’s had enough of DeSantis and he is going to soon join Scott Walker in political oblivion.
Insurance companies pulling out too.
Also, the military will likely remove bases there and will not expand existing ones or build new ones. They’re doing so much damage to the state, yet the voters can’t see it somehow.
Voters are schmucks unfortunately and a sizable portion won’t be alive to see the consequences.
Hitler had a dim view of Anglos and Americans in general. He would have given these Neo Nazis a one way train ticket to the concentration camps.
It goes without saying that fascists in general are the scum of the earth but… Hitler revered the English in particular. He was devastated that they entered the war opposing him for this reason. The British empire was, in his view, a thing to be admired.
I mean, they did colonize the non-white world like nobody’s business
They go where nobody is going to give them any resistance. Try come doing that shit in my neighborhood and see how it goes. We all know what we have to do to stop them. The sooner we stop bitching and whining about it and start doing it the better off we will be.
So whats the reason they aren’t immediately put in handcuffs? This shit wouldn’t fly in Germany
we have this thing called freedom of speech that allows them to do a lot of the things they do
It’s more that the US is all about personal liberty and personal freedoms. Other places that you’re referring to have a charter of rights, which still allow for personal freedoms but are also constructed to protect minorities or at risk groups, like Jewish people.
That said the Bill of Rights that the Americans produced was first of it’s kind and amazing. Personally I just don’t think they got it quite right and charter of rights take into account the personal liberties of all people and not just the dominant majority.
This has nothing to do with freedom of speech american
Freedoms come with responsibilities. Ignore the responsibilities and break the social contract, no freedoms.
Freedom of speech. Everyone is able to be heard, even if their opinions are distasteful. It’s what the US was built on and why people can fly swastikas and wear klan hoods without being arrested.
They can only be arrested if they commit a crime, not because their views are horrible. You can walk down the street yelling racial slurs at everyone and that’s perfectly legal as long as you aren’t being violent or inciting others to violence.
That doesn’t mean society has to tolerate them - counter-protesting is alive and well, and Nazis have been fired from their jobs for their views. But the government can’t arrest them simply for being Nazis.
I for one am pretty real fucking tired of this goddamn fakeass free speech absolutism. The first amendment was about criticizing the new government’s decisions without getting imprisoned for it AND NOTHING MORE. The SCOTUS was dead wrong, just like this SCOTUS is corrupt as fuck. Nazis DO NOT have free soeech rights.
They DO NOT.
I mean that’s a nice fantasy you have there but in America that’s just not how it works
Thats because everyone laid down like doormats and accepted Nazis as their equals and neighbors.
There is only one way to deal with them.
I mean, we also have freedom of speech here in Germany. There are (harsh) limitations around hate speech and insults but besides that you can say what you want.
What’s also a definite no are nazi symbols. Swastikas, SS runes, nazi salutes, etc. are only ever allowed in the context of education and art (like period films and as of fairly recently, games).
We also still do have regular day to day nazis in Germany and sadly the far right party AfD has been growing in numbers over the last few years, taking a lot of inspiration from US republicans in their talking points and rhetoric. Since July they are in a county government for the first time, having only ever been an opposition party until then.
Germany wasn’t built on the principles of freedom (of speech) but that human dignity is inviolable. That’s Art. 1 of our constitution. Only Art. 2 then defines personal freedom.
Yelling slurs at people should be conaidered as psychological violence.
I mean, that’s why a lot of counties have hate speech laws.
But the people can beat the shit out of them for it
Is “Jews get the rope” an incitement to violence? Because these recent rallies seem to be hitting very close to what are the commonly-accepted limits on free speech in America.
Is “eat the rich” or a guillotine reference a call for violence?
You’re legally allowed to say awful shit, you just can’t act on it, or have a reasonable suspiscion that you may imminently act on it.
“Eat the rich” and guillotines have historical precedent
History needs to repeat itself.
Unfortunately, it’s limited to “direct, imminent threats of violence”. What we’d consider stochastic terrorism currently skirts by under American law. I wish it were different, but it is not.
One of the reasons I love that I’m in Germany rn. You don’t get people casually joking about Nazis then laughing it off like it’s nothing. It is literally against the law, and people treat that topic with actual respect.
Except… you do, and it’s apparently gotten very bad in places. Florida level bad.
Jesus fucking Christ. I’d say that’s worse than Florida in some ways. There was an incident where 50 teenagers went looking for black people to kill!? That’s straight up klan behavior! What the actual fuck!?
HEY WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE FLOOD MY FUCKING INBOX TELLING ME THAT RESPONDING TO THEM WITH VIOLENCE IS WRONG?
Hey I think your keyboard might be broken.
WHAAAAT??!!!
That’s right, it depends on the place. Very much boils down to rural vs. urban (as in so many countries) but it’s also a bit worse in Eastern Germany.
However the comment above is not wrong, in that there are definitive limits to free speech in German law so that you have more legal levers against nazis before they turn to violence.
Interesting look.
